Andy Burnham. 👏

How long will he last?

1 hour ago, athywhite1958 said:

Who cares?

Cunt.

Early days for the King of the North, of course, but plenty to like so far.

9 minutes ago, Traf said:

Early days for the King of the North, of course, but plenty to like so far.

No, he's already done a u turn, did you not know? No me neither but the right wing press are convincing people he has despite parliament being in a recess. The mind boggles.

I have full confidence he will poll better than Starmer because he isn't Starmer. He understands headline politics like Starmer couldn't do once in power.

That doesn't say he will do any better of course. I just hope he will because Farage isn't remotely interested in helping anyone but himself and his backers (bung providers).

Badenoch is no where near as capable as she thinks she is and despite doing better of late I don't think she is Tory leadership material. She is the opposite of Burnham who says he had imposter syndrome; Dunning-Kruger, just like Bolty! 😁

41 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Cunt.

Why? because I don't give a fuck about what happens to somebody trying to get to this country ILLEGALLY, they knew the risks

5 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Why? because I don't give a fuck about what happens to somebody trying to get to this country ILLEGALLY, they knew the risks

If you didn't give a fuck, you wouldn't pass comment. You're just too ashamed to admit you find joy in brown people dying.

6 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

Why? because I don't give a fuck about what happens to somebody trying to get to this country ILLEGALLY, they knew the risks

You do realise that many are duped by gangs of traffickers promising a golden upland of opportunity in the UK?

It's a shit show that the French especially are happy to turn a blind eye to, can you blame them?They have enough issues with those fluent in french to worry about those we colonised years back. Funny how the tables turn...

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

If you didn't give a fuck, you wouldn't pass comment. You're just too ashamed to admit you find joy in brown people dying.

you really are a prick

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Normal human beings who haven't been brainwashed by Nigel Farage and GBNews.

there you go again, making things up, just can't help yourself

23 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

there you go again, making things up, just can't help yourself

The thing about brainwashed people is; they don't know they're brainwashed.

On 31/07/2026 at 19:19, athywhite1958 said:

trying to get to this country ILLEGALLY,

you don't know that

thats definitely GBN/Reform language

On 31/07/2026 at 17:27, athywhite1958 said:

Who cares?

You sound lovely. Remind me to never buy you a pint.

6 hours ago, Casino said:

you don't know that

thats definitely GBN/Reform language

why try and cross the channel in a dinghy then, surely the legal routes are safer

On 31/07/2026 at 19:32, Winchester White said:

You do realise that many are duped by gangs of traffickers promising a golden upland of opportunity in the UK?

And many know exactly what they're getting when they get here.

They don't all live in caves with no Internet in Kurdistan and Vietnam you know.

41 minutes ago, gonzo said:

And many know exactly what they're getting when they get here.

They don't all live in caves with no Internet in Kurdistan and Vietnam you know.

Aye to be fair you have made a good point, maybe we are deemed a soft touch? I honestly don't know what someone is entitled to here compared to Italy, Spain, France, etc?

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Aye to be fair you have made a good point, maybe we are deemed a soft touch? I honestly don't know what someone is entitled to here compared to Italy, Spain, France, etc?

More importantly since we left the EU those countries don't have requirements to stop them passing through to us....

3 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

why try and cross the channel in a dinghy then, surely the legal routes are safer

Which legal routes do you have in mind?

8 hours ago, Casino said:

Which legal routes do you have in mind?

11 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Aye to be fair you have made a good point, maybe we are deemed a soft touch? I honestly don't know what someone is entitled to here compared to Italy, Spain, France, etc?

There’s a few countries that offer better incentives / benefits than us

11 hours ago, gonzo said:

More importantly since we left the EU those countries don't have requirements to stop them passing through to us....

They're not requirements though. They're options, and ones they don't really use.

Been here loads of times.

France could send them back to the EU country they came through to get there. But they don't.

Dublin convention isn't worth the paper it's written on.

Bit like the ECHR, where some countries use it or ignore it, as it suits.

4 hours ago, royal white said:

There’s a few countries that offer better incentives / benefits than us

Apparently, Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark & Finland.......yet they still come. Although, some people do seem to think that they all trapse across the continent to get to the UK - the fact is it's not a particularly large percentage that come here. Which shows what a problem it is for Europe in general, and it will continue to get worse and worse over the coming decades. It'll never stop, it can't be stopped

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

Apparently, Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark & Finland.......yet they still come. Although, some people do seem to think that they all trapse across the continent to get to the UK - the fact is it's not a particularly large percentage that come here. Which shows what a problem it is for Europe in general, and it will continue to get worse and worse over the coming decades. It'll never stop, it can't be stopped

We are way behind some of the states you see across Germany and France. Give it time mind. We will get there.

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

Apparently, Germany, France, Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark & Finland.......yet they still come. Although, some people do seem to think that they all trapse across the continent to get to the UK - the fact is it's not a particularly large percentage that come here. Which shows what a problem it is for Europe in general, and it will continue to get worse and worse over the coming decades. It'll never stop, it can't be stopped

It'll be a language thing probably?

I'd hazard a guess that English is the most widely spoken language across legal and illegal migrants/asylum seekers.

We could all start speaking Welsh maybe? It might help when we visit Wales too as we all know they revert to Welsh whenever they hear an English accent 😁

39 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It'll be a language thing probably?

I'd hazard a guess that English is the most widely spoken language across legal and illegal migrants/asylum seekers.

We could all start speaking Welsh maybe? It might help when we visit Wales too as we all know they revert to Welsh whenever they hear an English accent 😁

It’s the Toughsheet, they all want to visit it, Oh and Moss Bank Park

Edited yesterday at 13:011 day by royal white

59 minutes ago, gonzo said:

We are way behind some of the states you see across Germany and France. Give it time mind. We will get there.

Agreed we're not at those levels yet, and that's probably by virtue of the fact that we've got the English Channel for "protection"

You mention Germany and France.........get looking at Belgium, that is grim

59 minutes ago, kent_white said:

It'll be a language thing probably?

I'd hazard a guess that English is the most widely spoken language across legal and illegal migrants/asylum seekers.

We could all start speaking Welsh maybe? It might help when we visit Wales too as we all know they revert to Welsh whenever they hear an English accent 😁

I'd guess so, I reckon French would be quite high up there, certainly with some travelling up from Africa