I also took my two lads aged 7 and 5 to there first ever away game at blackburn and new exactly what to expect, the combination of cheap tickets and local derby was always going to create a hostile atmosphere, i knew the language at the match would be choice to say the least but my attitude is its a game of football and to be expected. At the end of the day it all boils down to RESPECT for other people and unfortunatly the vast majority of stone island/burberry wearing pricks dont have any.

Anyhow the lads enjoyed there first away day experience even though they had lager spilt on there heads and they treated there mother to a rendition of "WANKY WANDERERES" when they got home i could have died!!!!!

And they treated there mother to a rendition of "WANKY WANDERERES" when they got home i could have died!!!!!

 

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I don't know what is with some fans but there are a small minority of morons at the game on Sunday that through their constant swearing and agression towards fellow Bolton fans spoilt the day out for me. I took my 11 year old to his first away game but there were 10 or so fans behind me that chose to eff and geff throughout the game and had no regard for the kids sat around and as a result I'm not sure I'd take him again. Don't get me wrong I can swear with the best of them but I don't swear when I know kids are in earshot. At one point a guy in his 50s was threatened by about 5 or 6 of these 20 or 30 year old thugs just because he asked them to be a bit more respectful of the kids. Eventually the stewards got involved and one of them was removed for a bit which helped calm things down but it shouldn't have gone that far.....no doubt I'll get grief on here but I thought I'd have my 10 penneth worth anyway.

I took my eldest son, who was then 8, to Old Trafford when we played them in the cup a few years back and before the match I apologised to him in advance for my expected swearing! It was the only time he ever heard me swear. I went with my youngest to OT for the premier league match two seasons ago and again he said it was the only time he has ever heard me swear anywhere! I will be in the upper west on saturday if you want to stay well clear! :p

this has to be the best reason to have unreserved seating, the not rights like me can jump swear and sing together while the kids and parents can all sit together.

Edited October 24, 200619 yr by Mounts Kipper

and not only did the tosser tell my son and his 11 year old mate to stay seated, he pulled one of them by the hood of their top.it was only later when plod pointed out i could have done him for assault....

grabbing kids = moronic

 

swearing = it happens get over it....

and it was the older guy who offered us outside for a rumble, just before plod had a word with me.

then moved him and his posse..

 

Same thing was unfolding near me, though the knitting brigade behind us didnt have the courage to bark at the "owd school not rights" in front and either sides of us to sit down, instead they kept tapping me wife and daughter on the shoulder and moaning for them to sit down. After 20 mins my missus had enough and told em that as long as the guys in front were stood up so was she. I found it pretty funny meself.

 

Definately not seen a calibre of following like that in a long long time. It really did bring it home to me that we are pricing out a lot of boys but then again this particular match and venue made it attractive for those boys to turn out and enjoy the pre and post match beer and activities.

I also took my two lads aged 7 and 5 to there first ever away game at blackburn and new exactly what to expect, the combination of cheap tickets and local derby was always going to create a hostile atmosphere, i knew the language at the match would be choice to say the least but my attitude is its a game of football and to be expected. At the end of the day it all boils down to RESPECT for other people and unfortunatly the vast majority of stone island/burberry wearing pricks dont have any.

Anyhow the lads enjoyed there first away day experience even though they had lager spilt on there heads and they treated there mother to a rendition of "WANKY WANDERERES" when they got home i could have died!!!!!

 

i agree with that. its not the swearing thats the problem here, it the respect for other type of supporter thats lacking, and from sections of both side of the fence in my opinion.

 

BUT thats got fcuk all to do with football, its a problem thoughout society.

Edited October 24, 200619 yr by HomerJay

Why would a group of strong healthy men want to spoil the enjoyment of two elderly ladies?

 

I'd say they are spoiling the enjoyment of a group of men

 

If you are easily offended by noise, swearing and boisterous behaviour, go to bingo

 

Simple as that

I also took my two lads aged 7 and 5 to there first ever away game at blackburn and new exactly what to expect, the combination of cheap tickets and local derby was always going to create a hostile atmosphere, i knew the language at the match would be choice to say the least but my attitude is its a game of football and to be expected. At the end of the day it all boils down to RESPECT for other people and unfortunatly the vast majority of stone island/burberry wearing pricks dont have any.Anyhow the lads enjoyed there first away day experience even though they had lager spilt on there heads and they treated there mother to a rendition of "WANKY WANDERERES" when they got home i could have died!!!!!

 

 

its a good job you said vast majority there weaver i wore a Stone Island jacket on

Sunday and that certainly isnt the case for me! You cant tarnish everyone in that bracket

with the same brush!

Edited October 24, 200619 yr by hughesy

I'd say they are spoiling the enjoyment of a group of men

 

If you are easily offended by noise, swearing and boisterous behaviour, go to bingo

 

Simple as that

 

The way I read it was that it was not the swearing and boisterous behaviour they were complaining about - but the fact that the men were stood up so that the old ladies could not see.

 

Whether we like it or not - the grounds are 'all seater' stadiums - to stand up in front of some old dears - and block their view and enjoyment of the match is just being selfish, uncaring and showing no respect to those who are to old and weak to do anything about it.

 

Maybe if it was your mother who was being disrespected you might see things differently?

Maybe if it was your mother who was being disrespected you might see things differently?

 

My mother wouldn't go to an away match in which she knew it'd be heaving full of blokes with too much shandy down their necks. I'd say they'd been tactically naiive tbh.

Btw, I'm 5' 1" and although it can be annoying to be so short, that's life!

My mother wouldn't go to an away match in which she knew it'd be heaving full of blokes with too much shandy down their necks. I'd say they'd been tactically naiive tbh.

Btw, I'm 5' 1" and although it can be annoying to be so short, that's life!

 

Maybe they were taking their orphaned grandchildren to the first match that they could afford to pay for from their pension monies for all I know.

 

The point is that they were there, they had every right to be there and they had just the same right as the men to enjoy the match.

Maybe they were taking their orphaned grandchildren to the first match that they could afford to pay for from their pension monies for all I know.

The point is that they were there, they had every right to be there and they had just the same right as the men to enjoy the match.

Ooh, you're a devil's advocate aren't you?

I agree they had a right to be there of course. It just seemed like an odd choice of match. Local derby, 3pm (time for the shandy drinkers to fill up) and a full house.

Ooh, you're a devil's advocate aren't you?

I agree they had a right to be there of course. It just seemed like an odd choice of match. Local derby, 3pm (time for the shandy drinkers to fill up) and a full house.

no balls in 40 years time if the same fixture comes up and you fancy going to the match would you like to be told to take your 5'1 old frame and f??ck off to Bingo?

swearing has always gone on at football matches

 

but it used to be bloody and bugger type stuff

 

things have gone downhill over the years

 

its not going to get any better though, so folk need to live with it, or don't go

 

that'll be another section of our support lost

 

 

no balls in 40 years time if the same fixture comes up and you fancy going to the match would you like to be told to take your 5'1 old frame and f??ck off to Bingo?

 

she'll just be glad to still be alive at 95 years old

no balls in 40 years time if the same fixture comes up and you fancy going to the match would you like to be told to take your 5'1 old frame and f??ck off to Bingo?

 

Did I appear to be sticking up for those rude young men? Not really, I just found it a little odd that they went to that match. I know it was nearby but, I wouldn't have taken my grandmother or advised she went, well, she's dead, but you know what I mean. I know everyone has a right to go as I have to still go to Icon of a Saturday night, but should I be surprised if some young bloke told me to fcuk off to the Swan? As for bingo.....never!

its a good job you said vast majority there weaver i wore a Stone Island jacket on

Sunday and that certainly isnt the case for me! You cant tarnish everyone in that bracket

with the same brush!

 

Hughsey

 

If you were SI then it makes you a target, beit good or bad, right or wrong. Naive to think any different. Some kids wear it as a suit of amour, some wear it because they like to look like sheep, some like it becuase its decent clobber.

 

I stopped wearing it when the p??kis asians started.

 

Maybe they were taking their orphaned grandchildren to the first match that they could afford to pay for from their pension monies for all I know.

 

The point is that they were there, they had every right to be there and they had just the same right as the men to enjoy the match.

 

Agreed, and they should be able to do so in safety.

 

Conversely, being old does not give them the right to stop others enjoying themselves.

 

Whilst it is cowardly to give them a foul mouthed earful its is not unreasonable to expect them to know what it is like at a derby match with 7000 bolton fans of various 'social backgrounds and tendancies'.

If you were SI then it makes you a target, beit good or bad, right or wrong. Naive to think any different. Some kids wear it as a suit of amour, some wear it because they like to look like sheep, some like it becuase its decent clobber.

 

I stopped wearing it when the p??kis asians started.

 

Thats why i now get all my clobber from Talibs.

Is their stuff fake as well?

The old duffers round our way have a bowling green that is fenced off to stop other people using it, maybe we should fence off young people's activities? Away matches just aren't the place for octagenarians, sorry, but that's just the way it is.

The old duffers round our way have a bowling green that is fenced off to stop other people using it

 

 

its fenced off to stop shithouses wrecking it

 

and for a tenner, the council will let you have a key

 

poor carlos

 

very poor

Hughsey

 

If you were SI then it makes you a target, beit good or bad, right or wrong. Naive to think any different. Some kids wear it as a suit of amour, some wear it because they like to look like sheep, some like it becuase its decent clobber.

 

I stopped wearing it when the p??kis asians started.

 

 

Agreed Smiffs i think its decent clobber and in times gone by i have taken the 'badge' off

the arm so people may not make me a target.

Swearing at matches hasn't got worse, you're just getting older & find it more offensive.

 

As for old dears telling drunken lads to sit down - surely they expected to get told to 'f??ck off', with that many years behind you I thought common-sense would be a strong point.

The second away game I can ever remember being at was Sheff United in 77 (I think) when we won 5-1 and it was going off royaly for the full duration of the game. I can't remember many old duffers sat there then, they should be happy that they can now go to matches is relative safety.

Away matches just aren't the place for octagenarians

Which reminds me, I saw biff at half time and he said that the ball definately crossed the line for the Blackburn "goal" and they should have had a penalty. He's not got bad eyesight for a Supercentenarian.

My 10p - most 11 year olds could write the comprehensive dictionary of swear words. Anyone who really thinks anything different needs to visit Planet Earth once in a while.

 

People who ask folk to have more respect need to f??ck off and watch ballet or something. It's football, people have always sworn at it, this is Bolton not Bath or some other gay southern village.

 

Agree 100% with you there Carlos... i went to games in the early-mid 80s with my old man at the age of 7 or 8 and swearing was accepted - I was taken in the Wagon and the King Bill where there was more swearing and then ont more sweraing in the ground - and never really noticed it after the first few games. I remember the racist stuff at the time a lot more vividly and that actually stuck in my memory where the swearing didnt.

 

I think pepole have short memories and I would be genuinly surprised if anyone other than a new breed 'footie' fan (ie: post 96) could seriously have a real issue with swearing at agmes.