mickbrown Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Because 1) They knew the pay when they trained to become a teacher. 2) Surely they live in the real world and understand that a 2/3 final salary pension for public sector workers would bankrupt the country. 3) I believe strike action should be supported by at least 50% of the vote of which 50% of the membership must have voted. 4) Even better, fucking ban Unions as they are run by morally corrupt cuntpipes - champagne socialists at their very worst. True enough - they also knew the pension when they were training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Lets find the evil bastards who forced them kicking and screaming into that job in the first place, and have them shot like pigs. Again - fair point, but say you'd agreed a quote for digging up stuff (displaying total lack of knowledge now), do the job, then bloke says 'nah feck that, I ain't paying you that', you'd be a tad pissed off no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 They're making them work for free? Fuck me, that is a bit harsh, aye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazza Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I am not in agreement with this strike, it's bollocks but!! In general the working man is being dry bummed. I was earning more in 1997 an hour than I am now and I am now working half as many hours again than I was then. I am expected to work every second, this weekend will be my fourth in a row to make a liveable wage. I have had one day off work in about a month and have had to doctor my timesheet to stop my manager getting in trouble because I've had so little time off. My basic hours are 25 a week (5 hours a day obviously) but don't get paid overtime rate until I've worked 50 in a week. I can't live on 25 hours a week, nobody could but I am only employed like this because they don't always have a full shift of work for me, though it is VERY rare for me to work my basic 10 til 3 (for the last fortnight I've worked from 6.30am til 6PM) plus they pay me less money when I take holidays, i only get 5 hours pay per day taken. I am on a 6 month rolling contract, so they can get rid of me at any time, i don't get sick pay if I was ever off. In saying that I love the work I do most of the time, so don't mind doing the hours, it keeps me off the drink and my mind switched on as it is mentally challenging work that I do. The weekends are mostly shite with manual work on a Household Waste Recycling Centre hauling peoples rubbish about but I get paid overtime rate for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 You're not wrong, Frank, but who votes for these union leaders in the first place? homesexuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 They're making them work for free? Fuck me, that is a bit harsh, aye. Never said free, said not what they agreed beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffs Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Jazza, what job was you doing in 97? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 homesexuals Home loving types? Sarah Beeney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 But no pension is completely guaranteed a many people have found out and those wanting the state one will find out in a few years. If there's nothing in the pot, how can they have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazza Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Jazza, what job was you doing in 97? Warehouse manager with Scottish Power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 15, 2011 Site Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2011 Spineless, workshy, ungrateful, pig-thick, socialist, backward, selfish, self-indulgent, thoughtless, out of touch, Scargillite, lazy lazy lazy lazy wankers. ANYONE who goes on strike (particularly during a recession, regardless of the causes) wants throwing in the sea with a litre of hot Ronseal Deckstain poured up their pathetic arseholes. If I have a bad month in the evil, capitalist private sector, I may have to put a bit less in my pension pot. Do I then start blaming anyone and everyone except myself? Do I fuck. If you're going to work in a sector that wraps you up in cotton wool and gives you more holidays and sick days than there actually are in a calender year, don't start fucking whining when the going gets a bit tough outside your wonderful little protective bubble. You know when you take the public sector pay that you are at the behest of that particular machine and I certainly don't hear any of you moaning about the endless time off and soft as shit layers of protection you get. If you don't like it, get another fucking job where you can control your own future instead of being a spineless self-pitying cuntshite. Worse than scousers. And I don't say that lightly. So on the 30th June, most of the country will be at the mercy of people taking yet ANOTHER fucking day off for shit all. Cunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 But no pension is completely guaranteed a many people have found out and those wanting the state one will find out in a few years. If there's nothing in the pot, how can they have it? I know, but it's human nature for folk to be pretty fucked off about it. So I wish em good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Home loving types? Sarah Beeney? twat seriously though, when I worked at hsbc it was run by all the odd balls who actively went out of their way to push the boundaries as far as they possibly could whilst trying to get everyone else involved. Theres no Union in my last place and my current employer, it isnt needed. hard workers who care about the job they do is all that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrp Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Spineless, workshy, ungrateful, pig-thick, socialist, backward, selfish, self-indulgent, thoughtless, out of touch, Scargillite, lazy lazy lazy lazy wankers. ANYONE who goes on strike (particularly during a recession, regardless of the causes) wants throwing in the sea with a litre of hot Ronseal Deckstain poured up their pathetic arseholes. If I have a bad month in the evil, capitalist private sector, I may have to put a bit less in my pension pot. Do I then start blaming anyone and everyone except myself? Do I fuck. If you're going to work in a sector that wraps you up in cotton wool and gives you more holidays and sick days than there actually are in a calender year, don't start fucking whining when the going gets a bit tough outside your wonderful little protective bubble. You know when you take the public sector pay that you are at the behest of that particular machine and I certainly don't hear any of you moaning about the endless time off and soft as shit layers of protection you get. If you don't like it, get another fucking job where you can control your own future instead of being a spineless self-pitying cuntshite. Worse than scousers. And I don't say that lightly. So on the 30th June, most of the country will be at the mercy of people taking yet ANOTHER fucking day off for shit all. Cunts. best post ever on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 twat seriously though, when I worked at hsbc it was run by all the odd balls who actively went out of their way to push the boundaries as far as they possibly could whilst trying to get everyone else involved. Theres no Union in my last place and my current employer, it isnt needed. hard workers who care about the job they do is all that is needed. I agree - they aren't needed everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave2980 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Spineless, workshy, ungrateful, pig-thick, socialist, backward, selfish, self-indulgent, thoughtless, out of touch, Scargillite, lazy lazy lazy lazy wankers. ANYONE who goes on strike (particularly during a recession, regardless of the causes) wants throwing in the sea with a litre of hot Ronseal Deckstain poured up their pathetic arseholes. If I have a bad month in the evil, capitalist private sector, I may have to put a bit less in my pension pot. Do I then start blaming anyone and everyone except myself? Do I fuck. If you're going to work in a sector that wraps you up in cotton wool and gives you more holidays and sick days than there actually are in a calender year, don't start fucking whining when the going gets a bit tough outside your wonderful little protective bubble. You know when you take the public sector pay that you are at the behest of that particular machine and I certainly don't hear any of you moaning about the endless time off and soft as shit layers of protection you get. If you don't like it, get another fucking job where you can control your own future instead of being a spineless self-pitying cuntshite. Worse than scousers. And I don't say that lightly. So on the 30th June, most of the country will be at the mercy of people taking yet ANOTHER fucking day off for shit all. Cunts. I like the cut of your jib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 61.1% of those balloted voted in favour of strike action, the turnout was 32.4%. So 19.8% of the members have votes to strike Solid support If you have a vote and you dont use it, then no good moaning about afterwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biff Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Spineless, workshy, ungrateful, pig-thick, socialist, backward, selfish, self-indulgent, thoughtless, out of touch, Scargillite, lazy lazy lazy lazy wankers. ANYONE who goes on strike (particularly during a recession, regardless of the causes) wants throwing in the sea with a litre of hot Ronseal Deckstain poured up their pathetic arseholes. If I have a bad month in the evil, capitalist private sector, I may have to put a bit less in my pension pot. Do I then start blaming anyone and everyone except myself? Do I fuck. If you're going to work in a sector that wraps you up in cotton wool and gives you more holidays and sick days than there actually are in a calender year, don't start fucking whining when the going gets a bit tough outside your wonderful little protective bubble. You know when you take the public sector pay that you are at the behest of that particular machine and I certainly don't hear any of you moaning about the endless time off and soft as shit layers of protection you get. If you don't like it, get another fucking job where you can control your own future instead of being a spineless self-pitying cuntshite. Worse than scousers. And I don't say that lightly. So on the 30th June, most of the country will be at the mercy of people taking yet ANOTHER fucking day off for shit all. Cunts. Complete uninformed drivel. You probably think that Civil Servants do nothing but drink tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted June 15, 2011 Site Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2011 I am not in agreement with this strike, it's bollocks but!! In general the working man is being dry bummed. I was earning more in 1997 an hour than I am now and I am now working half as many hours again than I was then. I am expected to work every second, this weekend will be my fourth in a row to make a liveable wage. I have had one day off work in about a month and have had to doctor my timesheet to stop my manager getting in trouble because I've had so little time off. My basic hours are 25 a week (5 hours a day obviously) but don't get paid overtime rate until I've worked 50 in a week. I can't live on 25 hours a week, nobody could but I am only employed like this because they don't always have a full shift of work for me, though it is VERY rare for me to work my basic 10 til 3 (for the last fortnight I've worked from 6.30am til 6PM) plus they pay me less money when I take holidays, i only get 5 hours pay per day taken. I am on a 6 month rolling contract, so they can get rid of me at any time, i don't get sick pay if I was ever off. In saying that I love the work I do most of the time, so don't mind doing the hours, it keeps me off the drink and my mind switched on as it is mentally challenging work that I do. The weekends are mostly shite with manual work on a Household Waste Recycling Centre hauling peoples rubbish about but I get paid overtime rate for it. you doctor your time sheet to stop your boss getting in trouble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazza Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I kind of agree with Spider but can also see the other side of things. It is fine if you are in a steady job with a decent employer but they aren't all like that. Dodgy employers have you over a barrel now and take the piss with demands that are unreasonable. They know that if the working man doesn't have a leg to stand on now and they can do what they want. An example is one lad I work with who was a driver, got disciplined for exceeding his company enforced 40 mile an hour speed limit (all vehicles have trackers and there is a little hitler sitting there watching them constantly) on a journey from Barrow to Carlisle. He only just got into Carlisle in time for our site closing time that day and it would have cost the company a fortune to take the load all the way back to Barrow to bring it back the next day. Despite that he got a written warning. The next week he was in exactly the same position (it was a regular weekly run) and refused to go because of the reasons above and they sacked him. That's just one example of many The average working man is fucked, and you know why? The unions have abused their powers and have lost what they were formed for in the first place! They were there to fight for rights for ordinary working men. Scargill and the fuckin miners fucked themselves and every other normal man up the arse by playing right into Thatchers hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C86 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 If you have a vote and you dont use it, then no good moaning about afterwards That's fuck all to do with it, the point I made is just under 20% of 750K(?) have voted to strike, it's pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 15, 2011 Site Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2011 Complete uninformed drivel. You probably think that Civil Servants do nothing but drink tea. Don't get me wrong, there will invariably be those in the sector who are wincing at this turn of events and are hard working, non-piss taking types. They are getting tarred with the same brush but the fact is there are plenty who will jump at the chance for a day off. On the 30th June, they will simply make an econmy that is already buckling worse. Shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 That's fuck all to do with it, the point I made is just under 20% of 750K(?) have voted to strike, it's pointless. You should have a pop at the 80% that didnt not the 20 that did, they all had a chance and 80% had something better to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C86 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I'm a school governor and we had to give the staff an extra day off for the fucking Royal Wedding cause they where already off on that day for Easter. Couldn't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazza Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 you doctor your time sheet to stop your boss getting in trouble? Yep, It benefits me because I get more hours but I am supposed to get two consecutive days off in a fortnight. I haven't been but if I juggle my hours to suit I can make it appear that I do. He has been really good to me during my marriage split and is also a good manager to me (though if you get on the wrong side of him he is a cunt) It benefits both of us... I get the extra hours and he gets his work done by someone he can trust it's just not company legal what i/we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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