article on the mirrors website regarding our Gaz

 

 

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Legally, yes, you are right.

 

However, we all know that 'unofficial' talks take place and gentlemens agreements happen.

 

Darren Pratley for example. Everyone knew he was joining us this summer.

Yes, but he was playing for a club in another country

Do people genuinely believe Cahill is going to sign a contract extension?

 

He might be a nice guy but he ain't fuckin' stupid.

Do people genuinely believe Cahill is going to sign a contract extension?

 

He might be a nice guy but he ain't fuckin' stupid.

 

 

he could break his leg, or snap a cruciate in april. then he'd have no club.

 

 

i am not saying he will sign, but he would have to stupid not to consider an offer.

 

 

plus he's already had one career (life?) threatening injury.

Edited September 8, 201114 yr by HomerJay

If he breaks hia leg or snaps his cruciate then he signs another contract with us

anyone got a hammer handy?

Do people genuinely believe Cahill is going to sign a contract extension?

 

He might be a nice guy but he ain't fuckin' stupid.

 

If there's a big fee out there, can't you offer him some of it to make it attractve for him to sign an extension?

 

He would get the high wage anyway at a Top 4 club.

Im struggling to believe people actually think he hasnt already indicated he doesnt want to sign another contract.

Im struggling to believe people actually think he hasnt already indicated he doesnt want to sign another contract.

 

... or that the club hadn't even thought about offering a new one.

Im struggling to believe people actually think he hasnt already indicated he doesnt want to sign another contract.

 

players mull over contracts for months. its called negotiating the best deal.

 

again, let me reiterate, i have no idea where the club or cahil stand in the terms of the contract. or if anything is even happening, we can only speculate.

 

but you would have fukcin simpleton think you know what is going on in cahill/his agent/coyles/gartsides/davies head.

 

the fact is, we dont know, and until he signs a a new deal with us or another club, we will never know.

 

basically gareth, its not black and white, as much are you want it to be. (or beleive you know it to be.)

I can tell you what's going on in the agent's head - how can I make the most money out of this. Guess that makes me a simpleton.

Gary Cahill will improve and there will be many clubs looking to take him off our hands whether he signs another contract or not. It is very plausible for him to sign a new contract with us giving him an immediate increase in his salary and other bonuses. If the club was to offer him a long term contract with a significant wage increase but with a set transfer fee for a move to a top 4 club, all parties would be happy. (Apart from Jamie and Arry)

I can tell you what's going on in the agent's head - how can I make the most money out of this. Guess that makes me a simpleton.

 

 

you could argue that going on in all their heads

I'd be amazed if he signs a new contract with us. He's holding all the cards at the moment so why would he voluntarily give that up that position? I reckon we'll take what we can get for him in January.

players mull over contracts for months. its called negotiating the best deal.

 

again, let me reiterate, i have no idea where the club or cahil stand in the terms of the contract. or if anything is even happening, we can only speculate.

 

but you would have fukcin simpleton think you know what is going on in cahill/his agent/coyles/gartsides/davies head.

 

the fact is, we dont know, and until he signs a a new deal with us or another club, we will never know.

 

basically gareth, its not black and white, as much are you want it to be. (or beleive you know it to be.)

 

If you honestly think the club have left it until now to try and get probably our most valuable player ever to sign a new contract, then you homer are a plantpot.

If you honestly think the club have left it until now to try and get probably our most valuable player ever to sign a new contract, then you homer are a plantpot.

 

what i think and what i know are two very different things.

Coyle and Gartside said at the fans forum that they would make an offer of a new contract after the window closed, if he was still here.

It was a mutual agreement to leave it until then as there would (potentially, at that time) be enough shit flying around during the window for him to possibly affect him, and Coyle wanted to protect him from that.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7160164,00.html

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_7160164,00.html

 

In short, Gary is not signing a new contract with us, full stop.

He will go for ?12 million in Jan imo.

He will go for ?12 million in Jan imo.

 

We'll be very lucky to get anywhere near 8-9M

Edited September 8, 201114 yr by jimmyjoojar

Surely some agreement mustve been met to guarantee some kind of sale rather than us getting shafted, we cant of been so daft as not to cash in,?

players mull over contracts for months. its called negotiating the best deal.

 

again, let me reiterate, i have no idea where the club or cahil stand in the terms of the contract. or if anything is even happening, we can only speculate.

 

but you would have fukcin simpleton think you know what is going on in cahill/his agent/coyles/gartsides/davies head.

 

the fact is, we dont know, and until he signs a a new deal with us or another club, we will never know.

 

basically gareth, its not black and white, as much are you want it to be. (or beleive you know it to be.)

 

well, we know what is going on Cahill's head - he told us, in more than one interview last season, quite openly, that he wants to play in the Champions League

 

as for Coyle/Gartside - it was quite obvious, because they were so open about it, that we wanted to cash in this summer

 

if he carries on impressing in England's centre of defence there'll certainly be plenty of takers in the summer, one or two of which will more than likely be in the CL

 

it was the fact he was under contract with clauses in it that blocked this move, plus a degree of loyalty to us following injuries and our openness to allow him to move on when the bid comes in

 

add to that, given his brush with death, he knows that if an opportunity to move on to a CL club comes, he will need to take it

 

now, it's all speculation of course, but I imagine his thought process leans far more towards that, than thinking there's even 1 good reason for him to sign a new contract with us - it just wouldn't make sense so far as HIS career is concerned

 

Coyle says contract talks can wait, he prob realizes that in the main they are pointless

 

the chances of us cashing in are diminishing now, the chances of him having big clubs wanting him are on the up

 

we can pretend that we will "never know" till something happens, but we do know, really

 

I'd say the simpleton is the one who believes he may actually think it's in his best interests to sign a new deal with us, because it's not

 

don't get me wrong, I hope Gary is a simpleton too

Right here?s question, I ask because I don?t know ? say for example he does not go in Jan and hangs on for a free in the summer, what happens if say he gets a bad injury (say like Holden) close to the end of the season (and I don?t wish this on him or anyone else for that matter) , now he?s not signed a new contract so would Bolton have to pay him after his contract has ended or could we say tough you are on your own, I think that even when out of contract we still own is registration for what it?s worth so does this have any bearing on the matter .. answers on a post card please

Right here?s question, I ask because I don?t know ? say for example he does not go in Jan and hangs on for a free in the summer, what happens if say he gets a bad injury (say like Holden) close to the end of the season (and I don?t wish this on him or anyone else for that matter) , now he?s not signed a new contract so would Bolton have to pay him after his contract has ended or could we say tough you are on your own, I think that even when out of contract we still own is registration for what it?s worth so does this have any bearing on the matter .. answers on a post card please

 

I doubt it. As of 1st July (presumably) he is a free agent. Not sure what the rulings are on registrations but not sure it really matters anyway. If he's not under contract to us then we don't pay him - he's nowt to do with us any more.

he'd be fucked.

 

unless city came in (a la owen hargreaves)

 

 

 

i only know one pro footballer (in the championship), and its his opinion that he'd never let his contract run down as too much of a gamble.

 

he's been in his last year a few times and always got a offered a better deal by his current club. then get sold on.

 

your a long time retired, and all that.

 

you could obviously argue he wasnt in demand like cahill. but on a free there still would be plenty of clubs knocking at his door imo.

Edited September 8, 201114 yr by HomerJay