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Do Comedians Have The Right To Offend?

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Woolly liberals on tv this meningitis debating this.

 

Of course they fucking do.

 

I've never heard a funny joke about a fluffy bunny rabbit, bunch of flowers, or a tin of fucking tomatoes.... Unless it involved a fat ginger gay darkie jew in a wheelchair.

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Unless Steven hawking is poking a keyboard with a stick strapped to his head, how the fuck do you get from "this morning" to "meningitis"

 

I'm a spak handed idiot...

If it's funny it's not offensive.

If they're trying to be controversial for the sake of it, it could be perceived as offensive.

 

Ricky Gervais is a prick but as someone who always sniggers at the word M?ng I just wish he'd been honest when trying to defend himself from the right on brigade.

If it's funny, it's funny, and that is all that should matter.

If it's funny, it's funny, and that is all that should matter.

So you'd be ok with jokes about that little Chinese kid who was run over?

Have you got any?? Think It's a massive grey area, there's got to be a line somewhere but unfortunately its been sabotaged by people who think being sanctamonious, makes them a good person.. they'd be better off helping people out rather then crying over some of the stuff they perceive they're defending the 'victim' from..

I thought that owen coyle had offended someone when I read the topic

Have you got any?? Think It's a massive grey area, there's got to be a line somewhere but unfortunately its been sabotaged by people who think being sanctamonious, makes them a good person.. they'd be better off helping people out rather then crying over some of the stuff they perceive they're defending the 'victim' from..

By the same token you could argue that it's also been sabotaged by talentless people who hide behind some self righteous argument that they're somehow lifing the lid on the audience's hypocrisy, thus giving them a get out of jail free card to say what they want. And of course they CAN say what they want, but as professionals being paid to say it,it should actually be smart and summat above that which some kid in the playground could come up with.

After all, if they're THAT dismissive of audience opinion and PC, why are'nt they all doing Bernard Manning stuff? They could call it post modernist :roll:

Ricky Gervais just isn't funny, so ot's not OK for him to be offensive

Woolly liberals on tv this meningitis debating this.

 

Of course they fucking do.

 

I've never heard a funny joke about a fluffy bunny rabbit, bunch of flowers, or a tin of fucking tomatoes.... Unless it involved a fat ginger gay darkie jew in a wheelchair.

 

chubby brown gets on stage in bradford in 1985 and opens with 'why did nt you invite me to your fucking barbeque' is that ok ?

 

a bloke coming out of the audience and knocking him out, is that also ok ?

 

i do not get offended by much but if something is close to our own personal circumstances they can cut deep, for me if you are going to make the joke you also have to take the shit that comes your way.

Have you got any?? Think It's a massive grey area, there's got to be a line somewhere but unfortunately its been sabotaged by people who think being sanctamonious, makes them a good person.. they'd be better off helping people out rather then crying over some of the stuff they perceive they're defending the 'victim' from..

Fair point, as is SatanGreavies's. Can you make a general rule?

 

A few years ago Jasper Carrott got into bother for a gag about Alzheimer's. It went something along the lines of "it's ok to take the piss of Alzheimer's victims because they'll write a letter of complaint but then forget to post it."

 

I thought it was fairly amusing, but people looking after loved ones with that illness felt it was a smack in the teeth.

 

I guess it's all about context and where the joke is told. There was a joke about the cockle pickers who drowned at Morecambe. Told in a pub, to a few lads no one would have bothered. Former MP Anne Winteron (silly cow that she was) told it at Whitehall dinner attended by VIPs.

So you'd be ok with jokes about that little Chinese kid who was run over?

 

Go on, try me. I'll laugh at most situations. It has to be funny though. I doubt you could come up with anything side splitting though.

Colin Crompton was reviled in Morecambe for putting the town down on " The Comedians " in the 70s, i still thought it was funny at the time.

So you'd be ok with jokes about that little Chinese kid who was run over?

 

Well that wouldn't be funny would it. So no, he wouldn't think it was funny.

But it wouldn't be offensive, just not funny. Gervais uses the word m0ng in a way the doesn't mean Down's, handicapped or any of those things. You can't even use the word on here as someone was offended. Now it is replaced with "idiot". Which oddly is what it means.

Comedians have the right to go at anything for me, whether you find it funny or offensive is your choice. If you don't like it, switch it off and don't watch that particular person again. Simple.

 

What really annoys me though is people (mostly of the daily mail reading origin) that watch a comedian with the sole reason that they will be offended and can complain, like with the frankie boyle thing a while back. If i had my way these types of people would be up against the wall.

But it wouldn't be offensive, just not funny. Gervais uses the word m0ng in a way the doesn't mean Down's, handicapped or any of those things. You can't even use the word on here as someone was offended. Now it is replaced with "idiot". Which oddly is what it means.

 

 

Someone tweeted him in support this week and it made me chortle.

 

It went along the lines of....

 

"I am the mother of two disabled children and use the word 'm0ng' all the time, infact we're all monging on the sofa right now"

 

A quick look at her account showed it to be true and not some wind up.

Language has context, a word in isolation doesn't. If I walk up to my mate and call him a cunt, that's fine. If I walk up to a stranger and call them a cunt, it's going off. An impartial observer would have no idea what the difference it.

 

Also the word cunt has different meanings and uses, the cockneys use it far more than we do. So does the word m0ng, m0ng out, M0ngy the dog etc. Ultimately if someone is offended then it's largely their problem.

You've a choice to watch it, so you know what to expect.

 

If you want Friendly funny go watch Peter Kay.

 

If you want sick and not arsed about being offended, go watch Frankie Boyle and the likes.

 

Simples.

 

TBH, its only offensive comedians that are funny aint it?

Peter Kay offends me, he creates the impression that everyone from Bolton is a fat m0ng like him.

At the end of the day its down to the indivdual on whether or not they are offended by a joke. Some folk may laugh at disabilities whilst other who have experinece of the joke topic may find it offensive.

 

I'm watching Micky Flanagan tonight and will report back if he offends me. I will also try to remember any of the jokes so I can use them but as usual I will forget them by the time I'm home.

Peter Kay offends me, he creates the impression that everyone from Bolton is a fat m0ng like him.

 

:rofl:

PK is a cunt.

PK is a cunt who isn't half as funny as he thinks he is.

 

 

Corrected for you.

 

P.S. Never trust a man who doesn't sup. See the league table in reference to this.

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