NorthernStr Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 explanation of the Dublin visit from http://www.bbc.co.uk/torchrelay Someone on BBC news at lunch time said because it is the "GB" team, people in N Ireland can only participate if they have English parents : What a load of Bollocks BBC reporting is really poor these days. On Monday they said that Robbie Williams kicked off the jubilee concert with "Mac the Knife" and THEY were broadcasting it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Some sports, eg boxing, are "all Ireland" so GB citizens will be competing for the Irish team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 6, 2012 Moderators Share Posted June 6, 2012 Some sports, eg boxing, are "all Ireland" so GB citizens will be competing for the Irish team. is that true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 my mate Savannah Marshall won't be boxing for Ireland in the Olympics,not a prayer get your money on her for gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 is that true? Yes. Wayne Mcculloch, a proud Ulsterman from the Shankhill Road, boxed for Ireland in the Seoul games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northender Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yes. Wayne Mcculloch, a proud Ulsterman from the Shankhill Road, boxed for Ireland in the Seoul games. Won gold at commenwelth games inb 1990 for Northern Ireland. At the medal ceremony when they couldn't get the NI anthem playing in the arena an Northern Irish bloke sung Danny Boy instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes. Wayne Mcculloch, a proud Ulsterman from the Shankhill Road, boxed for Ireland in the Seoul games. Won gold at commenwelth games inb 1990 for Northern Ireland. At the medal ceremony when they couldn't get the NI anthem playing in the arena an Northern Irish bloke sung Danny Boy instead. Barry McGuigan too. Represented NI in the Commonwealths, and Ireland at the Olympics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maaarsh Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Some sports, eg boxing, are "all Ireland" so GB citizens will be competing for the Irish team. Is this a wind up? Northern Ireland is not in Great Britain - buy a map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 7, 2012 Moderators Share Posted June 7, 2012 i did some googling last night i couldn't find anything to contradict the view that NI boxers would actually fight for ireland cos NI fighters don't fight as part of the ABA as mentioned above, mccullough is from a protestant belfast family, yet fought for the republic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Is this a wind up? Northern Ireland is not in Great Britain - buy a map. Yes, NI is in the UK, but not GB. hence in the Olympic Games, it's offically GB & NI IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 UK's full title is United Kingdom of GB & NI. So it should be Team UK, not GB WhitesMan should have said UK citziens. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted June 7, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2012 i did some googling last night i couldn't find anything to contradict the view that NI boxers would actually fight for ireland cos NI fighters don't fight as part of the ABA as mentioned above, mccullough is from a protestant belfast family, yet fought for the republic nope, he fought for Ireland at the olympics. Due to the fact the olympic council of ireland represents the island and not the two states on it (in most olympic sports) as well as that, there is no "UK" team to wich NI belongs, the team is team GB as stated, so, they are not representing the republic or northern ireland but Ireland as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStr Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 nope, he fought for Ireland at the olympics. Due to the fact the olympic council of ireland represents the island and not the two states on it (in most olympic sports) as well as that, there is no "UK" team to wich NI belongs, the team is team GB as stated, so, they are not representing the republic or northern ireland but Ireland as a whole. No you are wrong, from the British Olympic Association website : "The British Olympic Association (BOA) is the National Olympic Committee (NOC) for Great Britain and Northern Ireland" However, people in NI can chose to represent the Republic (like in football). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted June 7, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2012 No you are wrong, from the British Olympic Association website : "The British Olympic Association (BOA) is the National Olympic Committee (NOC) for Great Britain and Northern Ireland" However, people in NI can chose to represent the Republic (like in football). aye, but then we can quote the Olympic council of Ireland saying they represent the island, as someone else said, depends on who they are affiliated to in their chosen sport. Don't think Ireland has been known at the games as the "republic" is the point I was making, dont think the team display the tricolour but shamrocks? its known as "Ireland" as, as you say, can elect to represent either. ( known as Eire or the free state in some early years, but in modern times) I may well be wrong but it's just the way i've always understood it. I personally think, the majority of decisions, depend on competition for team places rather than a persons political persuasion, especially in a sport such as boxing where Britain is strong for example, your a young lad from Belfast competing against young lads from all over Britain and your the same weight as the likes of Amir Khan, or, your up against three or four from all over Ireland and maybe even a shoe in to go because they only have that many. choice between not going as britain or competing as team Ireland must be only one winner for most to be honest. probably the same reason Mcguigan represented NI even though he's from the republic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 UK's full title is United Kingdom of GB & NI. So it should be Team UK, not GB WhitesMan should have said UK citziens. Big deal. Surely it should be UK Team then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Surely it should be UK Team then? Or Team UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStr Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 aye, but then we can quote the Olympic council of Ireland saying they represent the island, as someone else said, depends on who they are affiliated to in their chosen sport. Don't think Ireland has been known at the games as the "republic" is the point I was making, dont think the team display the tricolour but shamrocks? its known as "Ireland" as, as you say, can elect to represent either. ( known as Eire or the free state in some early years, but in modern times) I may well be wrong but it's just the way i've always understood it. I personally think, the majority of decisions, depend on competition for team places rather than a persons political persuasion, especially in a sport such as boxing where Britain is strong for example, your a young lad from Belfast competing against young lads from all over Britain and your the same weight as the likes of Amir Khan, or, your up against three or four from all over Ireland and maybe even a shoe in to go because they only have that many. choice between not going as britain or competing as team Ireland must be only one winner for most to be honest. probably the same reason Mcguigan represented NI even though he's from the republic. They do the tricolour in the Olympics and play the soldier song as the anthem. Rugby is different ( I'm sure some other sports are as well). "representing the island of Ireland" is typical republican speak. The republic always calls itself "Ireland" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted June 7, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2012 They do the tricolour in the Olympics and play the soldier song as the anthem. Rugby is different ( I'm sure some other sports are as well). "representing the island of Ireland" is typical republican speak. The republic always calls itself "Ireland" aye fair point,I'll concede that point thinking about it, suppose it could be seen that way, and i was more thinking of the vests/ jerseys/tracksuits etc to be honest, but yeh, I can see that point now, just never thought of it that way, suppose it depends which viewpoint you look at it from,, never really thought about it that much to be honest, but always thought it was a good thing as most elect to represent, and possibly due to the competition factor more get the chance to go. But suppose there will always be the "republican" factor with an island team of any description that some will be opposed to and some will love because of it. you may find this an interesting debate/ article http://premierkj.hubpages.com/hub/Rory-McIlroy-Identity-Crisis nothing to do with the olympics but good points on teams/affiliations etc. prob wont interest anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Sometimes this board leaves you shaking your head & thinking "why do I bother?" Then you get an interesting, informative thread like this. Good work people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStr Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Interesting article, but II have seen a picture of Rory with an NI flag so I'm not sure he deliberately avoids the issue. More like he doesn't flaunt it. Google "Rory Mcilroy flag" and you'll see the image. It's a complex issue and people feel differently, it's not just what community they are from. I am from NI, support Ireland in Rugby and would never support England. In football I would support NI and dont really care what England or ROI do. In cricket I would support England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Been in Belfast today. I thought it would be best to probably not say anything about a variety of matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted June 7, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted June 7, 2012 Interesting article, but II have seen a picture of Rory with an NI flag so I'm not sure he deliberately avoids the issue. More like he doesn't flaunt it. Google "Rory Mcilroy flag" and you'll see the image. It's a complex issue and people feel differently, it's not just what community they are from. I am from NI, support Ireland in Rugby and would never support England. In football I would support NI and dont really care what England or ROI do. In cricket I would support England. aye, but who do you follow in the GAA, that's the important thing ps no offence if you hate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernStr Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 aye, but who do you follow in the GAA, that's the important thing ps no offence if you hate it Not really my thing, but I might enjoy watching it if I knew the rules. Hurling looks rough as fuck. The NI police has a team so things change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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