I know plenty of you wouldn't give them the steam off your latest brown trout.... but now they've been "outed" for tax avoidance (think we are talking £millions), will those who do like a fancy coffee be giving them a swerve?

 

As a UK business & tax payer it pisses me off that they've paid 0% in tax!! Fuckers!

 

If anything they should be the cheapest on the High St.

Did you know that the more people belong to unions the less strikes there are? I found it hard to believe, but 'tis true.

 

 

Saturdays and Sundays arnt covered by hmrc

 

And quite right too.

Those hard working folk at HMRC deserve weekends off.

Asking one of them to do your personal tax return as a foreigner during a vat inspection doesn't go down too well either

I feel sorry for the poor kids who work in Starbucks, on a shit wage and no fucking future in these bleak times.

Really? Most of them are Jam Rolls as our youth are too fucking lazy.

Did you know that the more people belong to unions the less strikes there are? I found it hard to believe, but 'tis true.

 

 

How strange

 

 

we seemed to have a lot of strikes in the 70s and 80s when union membership was rife

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by boltondiver

I feel sorry for the poor kids who work in Starbucks, on a shit wage and no fucking future in these bleak times.

 

Really?

 

Are they, financially, any worse off than shop workers were 10-20 years ago?

 

Get your violins out here, but when I was a teenager I worked on the market shifting shit, cutting my fingers to shreads 'trimming' cauliflowers, lugging 2 x 40lb boxes of bananas on my shoulder, starting at 6.30am and finishing at 5.30pm with 15 mins for lunch. All this on a come-down after being dropped off by mates straight from Wigan Pier (via Haigh Hall car park). I was paid the princely sum of £20 for this and that was pretty much the going rate.

 

By my workings that's less than £2 per hour. That was less than 20 years ago.

 

I was happy enough though, that £20 paid for half of my Saturday night out.

 

I'd say working for Starbucks and getting paid £7.45 per hour to be in a nice, warm and safe environment isn't really all that bad...

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by DazBobParr

I was happy enough though, that £20 paid for half of my Saturday night out.

 

And that was top dollar! I used to get between £15-£20 for a day on the market. That started at 7am and finished at 5.30-6pm. As a 15-16 year old it was good money but hard graft. School used to let me off if they knew I was working as it was giving me a better grounding than they could provide. Can you imagine that happening today?

 

Back in the day, my parents were told they had to register their market business for VAT as they were earning too much. But for them to impose VAT on their product would have meant they were over-priced compared to their competitors and in turn would have gone out of business. So they had to creatively account to stay in business, which in turn meant me & my brother getting rid of evidence (cold hard) on trips to Amsterdam and the like!

 

If they have registered and gone bump, we'd have lost our home.... thus the government would have been worse off.

7am start? Lazy cunt.

I started at Kwiksave when I was 17, £1.76 an hour. If I worked Friday (no college) we'd be in at 6.30 to unload the truck, then in until the shop was tidy after closing time (7.30)? I'd pull 12*1.76 = £21.12. Fucking luxury.

HMRC came into our place last year and tried to throw a huge bill at us

 

The inspector was a BWFC fan but no rapport building helped.

 

Got our accountants to look at it and HMRC worked loads out wrong and charged on stuff they shouldn't have.

 

We ended up paying a fair bit but it was less than half of what the fuckers tried to bill us for originally

 

They're as bent as the rest. Makes me wonder if they're on commission.

 

Tell you what, if/when we're in a position to "bend" the rules I won't hesitate

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by jules_darby

What is this? "I used to get up BEFORE I went to bed"

 

In the spriit of matters, my first job post graduation was £3.20/hour

 

And to think Labour got panned by some for introducing the minimum wage

And to think Labour got panned by some for introducing the minimum wage

 

Personally, I don't think people working a standard working week, serving coffee should be earning a gross salary of £1,200 per month. I'd say they're being overpaid.

I still think it's bollocks, I'm a highly skilled and well educated engineer, our building has cleaners that are the laziest cunts I've ever seen. They earn getting on for half what I do, basically for fuck all.

What is this? "I used to get up BEFORE I went to bed"

Anything to distract attention from the point.

 

The multinationals and other big companies are fucking this country up the arse, and the majority on here approve of that.

So we have some big companies not paying UK taxes and paying their staff a wage which has to be subsidized by the state via working tax credits & the like. Capitalist economies aren't meant to be like this.

 

 

I started at Kwiksave when I was 17, £1.76 an hour. If I worked Friday (no college) we'd be in at 6.30 to unload the truck, then in until the shop was tidy after closing time (7.30)? I'd pull 12*1.76 = £21.12. Fucking luxury.

 

Around the same time I got my first job, which was a Saturday job at HB Electronics (remember them...) - anyway, I started when I was 15 years old, all I had to do was work in the warehouse packing orders of electronics components - it was 08:00 until 12:00 and we also had a 20 minute tea break in there! - as I lived in Bromley Corss it was a bit of a ballache to get there for 08:00, so one of the other lads used to come and pick me up. I was paid £20 for the four hour shift, that equates at £5.00 per hour.......looking back, that was pretty well paid I suppose, it certainly wasn't hard work in the slightest

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by CWP

Anything to distract attention from the point.

 

The multinationals and other big companies are fucking this country up the arse, and the majority on here approve of that.

 

You've sort of made the same point twice now, it was utter bollocks the first time round too.

Anything to distract attention from the point.

 

The multinationals and other big companies are fucking this country up the arse, and the majority on here approve of that.

 

Except they don't really, if you cared to read what people are actually saying.

to add, when I left school I started on a YTS at the same place earning just £35 for the full working week.....but still keeping the £20 saturday job as well. I used to give my Mum £10 a week, and I was rich as fuck....or so it seemed at the time

Personally, I don't think people working a standard working week, serving coffee should be earning a gross salary of £1,200 per month. I'd say they're being overpaid.

 

It's just over a grand. Min wage is £6.19/hour

 

If people work for that, fair enough

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by jayjayoghani

Around the same time I got my first job, which was a Saturday job at HB Electronics (remember them...) - anyway, I started when I was 15 years old, all I had to do was work in the warehouse packing orders of electronics components - it was 08:00 until 12:00 and we also had a 20 minute tea break in there! - as I lived in Bromley Corss it was a bit of a ballache to get there for 08:00, so one of the other lads used to come and pick me up. I was paid £20 for the four hour shift, that equates at £2.50 per hour.......looking back, that was pretty well paid I suppose, it certainly wasn't hard work in the slightest

 

Maths was never your strong point was it...

Maths was never your strong point was it...

 

bloody hell you're right.....I thought something didn't seem right. I was proper loaded back then!

 

anyway, I'm going back to edit it, and nobody will be any the wiser

Lolz.

 

Once everything is paid, I'm all over a mindnumbing minimum wage job.

It's just over a grand. Min wage is £6.19/hour

 

If people work for that, fair enough

 

I was using Starbucks wage for my calculations.

 

£6.19 for serving coffee, for working on a til, for hoovering an office (no offence NB). Jobs that require no expertise, jobs that require very little training, jobs that don't require years of studying, jobs that don't have you thinking about before you go to sleep and when you first wake up. In short, basically jobs that monkeys can do.

 

I'd say £6.19 is more than enough.

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by DazBobParr