I know plenty of you wouldn't give them the steam off your latest brown trout.... but now they've been "outed" for tax avoidance (think we are talking £millions), will those who do like a fancy coffee be giving them a swerve?

 

As a UK business & tax payer it pisses me off that they've paid 0% in tax!! Fuckers!

 

If anything they should be the cheapest on the High St.

These minimum wage 20 hours a week jobs are vital for many and also convenient for working mums etc. to porn scorn on them is ignorant. That £120 a week is akin to £500 a month. Rent paid, one less bill to worry about, job done with plenty of time to get life's other day to day tasks sorted.

 

It's not the multinational companies fault that the welfare state has made it more appealing to sit at home doing fuck all nor is it their role to tack up any slack in the household spend or fix any social problem generated by labours nigh in 15 year 'sit at home and we will look after you' reign.

 

A big reason we have (or had) so many migrant workers doing the lesser skilled lower paid jobs is because we've got too many bone idle cunts of our own who won't get out of bed to earn not much more than the welfare gives them for sitting at home.

 

I've every sympathy for the likes of LW who'd lay brick all day long, worked all his life, but struggles for work at the moment.

 

But those pissing and whining about low paid work not being good enough for them can fucking starve for me.

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by Smiffs

So did people work harder than we do today ???!!!!

 

"When I wer a lad" type's anoy me tbh.

These minimum wage 20 hours a week jobs are vital for many and also convenient for working mums etc. to porn scorn on them is ignorant. That £120 a week is akin to £500 a month. Rent paid, one less bill to worry about, job done with plenty of time to get life's other day to day tasks sorted.

 

 

Anyone who works gets no 'scorn poured' from me. But one of the biggest problems around is underemployment. It's well known the government f*cking love this type of job, they have two people less (because of the P/T hours) 'unemployed' and 'off-benefits', but that's not strictly true is it? The low waged are entitled to child/working tax credits, help toward childcare, housing benefit and council tax.

 

Does it make any sense to deny the girl I wrote of her place on a training course, that was leading to a qualification and full-time employment (doing something she was already doing voluntarily on a paid basis)? A job that also had potential to advance in? Instead she now works part time in Asda, nothing wrong with that, but as a single mother she still receives help from the state.

 

Part time jobs are all well and good, but all too often it isn't an additional revenue stream to supplement another earner's wage or coupled with being a mum/dad or another job. It's more often these days, the sole employment.

 

It's not black and white, criticising these jobs isn't criticising the folk doing them, it isn't leaping to the defence of the feckless parasites who do f*ck all either...

Edited December 6, 201213 yr by Youri McAnespie

Third time you have posted that in 3 days, you are obessed man.

 

I am a bit, it's because I suspect what's going on, but have no proof - it's like a thorn in my mind

She was a couple of years older than me but I thought she'd be a feisty one. I reckoned if (a big if) you got in with her you'd acquire years of experience condensed into a few weekends...

 

Just look where that has got our Jazza!

Loving these benefit cuts

So did people work harder than we do today ???!!!!

 

"When I wer a lad" type's anoy me tbh.

 

ermm, pre war, if you didn't work, you starved

 

now, we hear shit about people living in poverty cos they've had to turn the heating down

 

'we live in poverty' types annoy me tbh

ermm, pre war, if you didn't work, you starved

 

now, we hear shit about people living in poverty cos they've had to turn the heating down

 

'we live in poverty' types annoy me tbh

 

They're "entitled" to their opinion

 

And a weekly handout

 

And their rights

 

And Sky TV

 

And mor Christmas lights than the fucking trafford centre.

 

Entitled. ENTItled. ENFUCKINGTITLED.

ermm, pre war, if you didn't work, you starved

 

now, we hear shit about people living in poverty cos they've had to turn the heating down

 

'we live in poverty' types annoy me tbh

I dare you to manage off £ 71 a week, go on give it a try just for one week. Always held a job down since i was 12 year old and grafted most of my life in hard jobs, but for putting money away for a rainy day, i would be totally fucked in todays climate.

Not having a go lw but of that 71 quid what do I have to put aside for bills?

 

If that's 71 for food and water I'd piss it.

Not having a go lw but of that 71 quid what do I have to put aside for bills?

 

If that's 71 for food and water I'd piss it.

 

How much is your gas, electricity, water, council tax, insurance per month? Divide by 4.2 and that's how much. Add petrol or bus fares. Then what do you do when the washing machine breaks down, or you need new shoes? All has to come out of that £71 a week.

No I'm saying how much would get subsidised with housing benefit etc.

I think Leigh White needs to clarify if that £71 is after bills or not, ie (as Stevieb says) if that £71 is what is left for food, drink, clothes, etc then there are plenty of folk working who don't have that much.

 

I'm not trying to say £71 is alot though, because it certainly isn't.

£ 71 before bills, ie leccy,gas,water,internet,phone,tv licence,car insurance & tax, all has to be paid out of that.

£ 71 before bills, ie leccy,gas,water,internet,phone,tv licence,car insurance & tax, all has to be paid out of that.

 

Ouch.

 

You need to find a 16 year old refugee bird and get her firing some kids out sharpish.

Dont have a car so thats out. Could get a £10 a month sim for phone. With everything else taken care of on my current rates that leaves about £160 a month for food and non essentials.

 

Doable but not pleasant.

 

I dont envy your position LW ill tell you that for free!

£ 71 before bills, ie leccy,gas,water,internet,phone,tv licence,car insurance & tax, all has to be paid out of that.

 

so, rents paid?

internet would have to go

 

serious question now, cos i'm sure you're a grafter

 

if somebody offered you 40 hours on minimum wage, within 3 miles/1 bus trip from home, would you take it?

 

if not, why not?

 

 

last time i was unemployed, i applied for a job on 7 quid an hour, permanent nights, so i have been there

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so, rents paid?

internet would have to go

 

serious question now, cos i'm sure you're a grafter

 

if somebody offered you 40 hours on minimum wage, within 3 miles/1 bus trip from home, would you take it?

 

if not, why not?

 

 

last time i was unemployed, i applied for a job on 7 quid an hour, permanent nights, so i have been there

At the moment no, father just out of hospital after a month and mother suffering with cancer, so have to make sure they are cared for first with shopping etc, visits to Christies and Health Centre's and the like.

At the moment no, father just out of hospital after a month and mother suffering with cancer, so have to make sure they are cared for first with shopping etc, visits to Christies and Health Centre's and the like.

 

Don't you get anything for being their 'carer' ?

Don't you get anything for being their 'carer' ?

It's counter productive, all they will do is reduce there pension to pay me, so i dont bother. I would rather have them keeping the money.

 

 

Don't you get anything for being their 'carer' ?

 

LW needs a carer sometimes.

LW needs a carer sometimes.

Ha ha, not wrong there. Done pretty well recently since i stopped going to Cumbria. I dont have any ale related accidents anymore.

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At the moment no, father just out of hospital after a month and mother suffering with cancer, so have to make sure they are cared for first with shopping etc, visits to Christies and Health Centre's and the like.

 

ok

 

look, next time we bump into each other, i'll give you a can of beans

 

you're opening up a whole new can of worms now

ok

 

look, next time we bump into each other, i'll give you a can of beans

 

you're opening up a whole new can of worms now

You can buy me a cup of coffee from Starbuck's.

with a nip of malt