captainmed Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Feel sorry for them Many have not had the chances and breaks in life. You cannot tar everyone with the same brush. White D was a top girl. Quote
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Feel sorry for them Many have not had the chances and breaks in life. You cannot tar everyone with the same brush. White D was a top girl. I have some sympathy that society hasn't shown them that they can do better Quote
captainmed Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I have some sympathy that society hasn't shown them that they can do better Many people cannot escape the cycle of despair. People who want to better themselves often have to suffer unbearable peer pressure. It's often easier to be like everyone else in the family and the street. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Sadly captainmed has it right... When you live somewhere 'rough' it's often extremely difficult to stay out of the 'culture' of the place. There's a real 'you're with us or against us' mentality - if you opt out of becoming part of the 'community spirit' of the place - then, at best, you're without the dubious protection it offers, or at worse seen as fair game or potential victim. This isn't wishy-washy woolly theorizing but from personal experience 'keeping it real' in 'da hood' (da real one - not the nice bit I reside in now ) during my formative years (20-25). l found that, when living in a shithole area, it was a delicate balancing act to not alienate oneself from some of the less salubrious members of the area whilst simultaneously maintaining your own sense of purpose and decorum. I'm glad I don't live there anymore, five years was enough... Edited January 9, 2014 by Youri McAnespie Quote
tarian1979 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Feel sorry for them Many have not had the chances and breaks in life. You cannot tar everyone with the same brush. White D was a top girl. read in the paper today when she last worked she was done for nicking money (13k i think) Quote
Horwich Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Who oks that though? I thought it had to be agreed by the tenant. Doesnt have to be...but they have had to mess you about (not paid before) Quote
Horwich Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Cant see it happening for a while anyway...plenty might change Quote
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Many people cannot escape the cycle of despair. People who want to better themselves often have to suffer unbearable peer pressure. It's often easier to be like everyone else in the family and the street. I think that I kind of agreed with you. I'd much rather see documentaries of those who a difficult background, but became a success. That will help, but our media seem happier for the country to wallow in the despair. There is so much opportunity these days. Quote
no balls Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I think that I kind of agreed with you. I'd much rather see documentaries of those who a difficult background, but became a success. That will help, but our media seem happier for the country to wallow in the despair. There is so much opportunity these days. Is it our media or is it the public? I can feel a Jam song coming on...... Quote
little whitt Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Feel sorry for them Many have not had the chances and breaks in life. You cannot tar everyone with the same brush. White D was a top girl. put your rod away Quote
Smiffs Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Many people cannot escape the cycle of despair. People who want to better themselves often have to suffer unbearable peer pressure. It's often easier to be like everyone else in the family and the street. Sorry but self pity can go and fuck itself. They're grown ups for fucks sake. They're old enough to reproduce, drink, drugs, steal....but not old or strong enough to stand up and say "this isnt for me"? Bollocks. And we still let them vote! Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Regarding the rent money being paid directly to the claimant, could this possibly be a nefarious bit of social engineering and cost-cutting? Get them to default, which wouldn't take much lack of self-control, then they're forced into houses of multiple occupancy run by unscrupulous shithouse slumlords (like that bloke on 'Meet the Landlords') - which although extortionate for what they are (per 'unit' - as they term these one room with everything, including meters, 'homes' within homes) are probably a lot less than paying for real individual homes for each claimant? If reputable private landlords get shafted out of a few grand on a wholesale basis then the government probably consider them unlucky victims of collateral damage (i.e. fuck them). There should be a way to avoid straying into temptation for claimants and/or some form of guarantees for reputable landlords (who are filling the gap in affordable housing shamefully left by government.) Quote
Guest Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 Is it our media or is it the public? I can feel a Jam song coming on...... The guilty list includes 1960/70s politicians, who deliberately created a non-aspirational educational system Teachers who don't inspire The media, which means the BBC the environment means that that people let themselves off with not assuming responsibility for the own lives and not facing up to the opportunity that this world offers. It is such a waste of talent. I fear that, because of the wishy-washy grip that the media has, it might be too difficult to break down/breakthrough. Quote
no balls Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 There should be a way to avoid straying into temptation for claimants and/or some form of guarantees for reputable landlords (who are filling the gap in affordable housing shamefully left by government.) Fuck off. You pay your bills, it's simple Quote
no balls Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 The guilty list includes 1960/70s politicians, who deliberately created a non-aspirational educational system Teachers who don't inspire The media, which means the BBC the environment means that that people let themselves off with not assuming responsibility for the own lives and not facing up to the opportunity that this world offers. It is such a waste of talent. I fear that, because of the wishy-washy grip that the media has, it might be too difficult to break down/breakthrough. I meant the viewers not the people in the programmes. It seemed quite clear when I typed it, but maybe not by your reply. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) Fuck off. You pay your bills, it's simple I couldn't give a fuck. I wouldn't let to them in the first place. I'm thinking of the landlords who do, they'll be the ones left out of pocket. The defaulters will still claim housing benefit, they'll just claim it to line the pockets of some HMO Slumlord instead - the downward spiral will continue. Edited January 9, 2014 by Youri McAnespie Quote
only1swanny Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 BBC being accused of the same thing. Tough young teachers is meant to be a recruitment documentary for teach first, to show how teachers are supported to learn on the job. BBC have edited it to look like the jobs a living nightmare.. One of the schools headmasters have been complaining about it already. Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 The BBC have been doing it for years, that's true... I used to watch something called 'Pigeon Street' - apart from the opening credits there was hardly fucking anything about pigeons in it. Quote
athywhite1958 Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 I was made redundant [again] 3 weeks before Christmas and not 'entitled' to any redundancy, because I have the audacity to work every Saturday the DWP 'give' me £15.20 per week, when I asked how would I pay my mortgage they told me to ask them for a payment break, no further help at all, I have applied for around 70 jobs and nothing yet, the woman at the job centre said I would have to use my savings to live, this type of program really fucks me off because I am in the same boat as them [except I don't steal or anything] Quote
Big E Posted January 9, 2014 Posted January 9, 2014 You have it much worse mate....you live in Wiggin Hope the search isn't too long mucker and you get sorted Quote
pato Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 the last time I was unemployed( and I truly hope it was the last time) I had to try and explain how much my shares in Burnden Leisure were worth Quote
Smiffs Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 Athy...you need to get some bad teeth and turn your house into a shithole. Get the biggest plasma telly you can find and a dog. Must be angry looking. Then don't bother washing and put some furniture in the garden. Piss your savings up the wall and learn how to smoke. Dabble in a bit of petty crime. Shoplifting perhaps. You wont get sent down, don't worry about it. Worse that will happen is you will be banned from Perrins and Gaffis. Find someone you might know who's smoked themselves into a disabled badge and then become their 'carer'. In doing so make sure you 'injure' your back. Don't forget this is all going to make you depressed so get the quack to subscribe some happy pills. You will be on £30k a year before you can say 'shithouse'. Quote
little whitt Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 what smiffs said and to dobble you money dont speak a word of the Queens Quote
Traf Posted January 10, 2014 Posted January 10, 2014 what smiffs said and to dobble you money dont speak a word of the Queens The fucking irony... Quote
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