SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 There are very few genuine rivalries. Most of the fake ones are born of jealousy to a bigger local club. Our hatred of United, Bury's of us, Burnley's of Blackburn etc. This isn't a rivalry, as someone said above, because it's only one way. Most rivalries develop through being the same size and competing the same area. Liverpool v Everton, Tottenham v Arsenal, United v City etc. Then there are the other kind, like we have with Wolves and Tranmere. Not based on locality, more based on an event (or events) that sparked the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywell Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I will never in my lifetime consider wigan as rivals to Bolton wanderers,never never never never.no matter wot part of this town I might move to,just don't have a rival if need be...fuckin wigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallywell Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 wigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 There are very few genuine rivalries. Most of the fake ones are born of jealousy to a bigger local club. Our hatred of United, Bury's of us, Burnley's of Blackburn etc. This isn't a rivalry, as someone said above, because it's only one way. Most rivalries develop through being the same size and competing the same area. Liverpool v Everton, Tottenham v Arsenal, United v City etc. Then there are the other kind, like we have with Wolves and Tranmere. Not based on locality, more based on an event (or events) that sparked the situation. The Burnley Blackburn thing is very much two way mate. The biggest rivalries IMO are the rivalries born or escalated for non footballing reasons. Ie Pompy/Southampton and the dockers strike saga, Cardiff/Swansea for plentiful reasons, the Sheffield derby due to steelworker disputes and generic scrapping every Saturday night, and dare is say it the Bpool/Preston derby. People from the two towns simply don't get on,which was born from BAE site worker disputes in the 60's/70's involving sites at strand road Preston and Warton etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 As long i have been going we haven't had a consistent derby match as teams going up/down etc,prob the longest period in same division together is blackburn. I preferred playing the port vales,stokes in the 90s to any local game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I dislike most of them. Can't really be arsed with City or Oldham, Rochdale aren't on the radar and I can't raise any enthusiasm about Preston. I can't stand United that'll always be the case. However, eight or nine years ago I stopped feeling gutted if we lost against them. They're out of our orbit - even when we're in the same league as them. Beating them was still fantastic though! Bury? Hate the fact that they kept beating us in the 80s but they're as small time as it gets. That leaves the shower with whom we currently share the Championship. Wigan? Certainly dislike them - but no more so than Blackburn. Always had a respect for Burnley but that's diminished in recent times. That leaves Blackpool, another set of petty Bolton Wanderers haters. I'm looking forward to the Wigan match on March 29 but also to the Blackpool game on March 25 and hoping we can beat them in the league for the first time since we started playing them again in 2010. Hope we don't overlook the Blackpool game just because it is followed by Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 10, 2014 Moderators Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) There are very few genuine rivalries. There are plenty; not sure what your definition of genuine is but city wise you've got a fair few The obvious ones like utd v city, Liverpool v everton, down to smaller ones likes bristol rovers v city, Stoke v port vale etc Then two neighbouring towns like Newcastle Sunderland, pompey Southampton, blackburn burnley to further afield like Ipswich Norwich and I've even been to a Peterborough Cambridge game and they hate each other Chuck in the likes of utd Liverpool and I start to get jealous we don't have one Edited March 10, 2014 by ZicoKelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 There are plenty; not sure what your definition of genuine is but city wise you've got a fair few The obvious ones like utd v city, Liverpool v everton, down to smaller ones likes bristol rovers v city, Stoke v port vale etc Then two neighbouring towns like Newcastle Sunderland, pompey Southampton, blackburn burnley to further afield like Ipswich Norwich and I've even been to a Peterborough Cambridge game and they hate each other Chuck in the likes of utd Liverpool and I start to get jealous we don't have one Millwall/West Ham Villa v Birmingham Luton v Watford Wolves v West Brom Etc etc Have you been for that brain scan yet snoop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 RMI v Marine. We hated playing those horrible bastards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The Burnley Blackburn thing is very much two way mate. The biggest rivalries IMO are the rivalries born or escalated for non footballing reasons. Ie Pompy/Southampton and the dockers strike saga, Cardiff/Swansea for plentiful reasons, the Sheffield derby due to steelworker disputes and generic scrapping every Saturday night, and dare is say it the Bpool/Preston derby. People from the two towns simply don't get on,which was born from BAE site worker disputes in the 60's/70's involving sites at strand road Preston and Warton etc. Millwall/West Ham Villa v Birmingham Luton v Watford Wolves v West Brom Etc etc All same-sized clubs from the same area (with possible exception of Millwall/West Ham)... which was my point. Any confrontations that may occur only serve to fuel that rivalry. Have you been for that brain scan yet snoop? Not quite sure what you're referring to here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 RMI v Marine. We hated playing those horrible bastards. I went to a few tasty RMI v chorley games late 80s early 90s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 All same-sized clubs from the same area (with possible exception of Millwall/West Ham)... which was my point. Any confrontations that may occur only serve to fuel that rivalry. Not quite sure what you're referring to here. I don't understand what qualifies as a genuine rivalry to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I went to a few tasty RMI v chorley games late 80s early 90s. Aye. Today's boring quiz question, no cheating. 2 football teams were formed by Lancashire & Yorkshire loco works. RMI were one, who was the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 . Aye. Today's boring quiz question, no cheating. 2 football teams were formed by Lancashire & Yorkshire loco works. RMI were one, who was the other? Doncaster? York? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I don't understand what qualifies as a genuine rivalry to you? I think you really need to learn how to read then... it was spelled out quite clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Doncaster? York? Cold. Think rivalry, it's relevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Newton heath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Newton heath. Anything from the top shelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I just find it confusing because there seems to be quite a few genuine rivalries. Anyway when's someone going to do a link to that rivalry survey from the early 2000s. Weren't we in the top ten most hated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Anything from the top shelf Get in! Could have been so different, RMI megastore, 70000 at grundy hill would have been a bugger for parking. All the foreign glory hunters could have stayed at the crown for the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 A rivalry is hardly going to flourish if they don't play each other is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoopJohnnyJohn Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I just find it confusing because there seems to be quite a few genuine rivalries. Anyway when's someone going to do a link to that rivalry survey from the early 2000s. Weren't we in the top ten most hated? See that's the problem. Most hated doesn't necessarily mean that we have the most rivalry. It just means other clubs think our fans are all dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 You can't mess with time though, ask Michael J Fox at the under the sea dance. Plus, if they'd have increased the capacity there's no way they'd have built the pool and so I'd never have seen the dolphins as a child. Everything for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 See that's the problem. Most hated doesn't necessarily mean that we have the most rivalry. It just means other clubs think our fans are all dicks. Seriously snoop...what are you on about?? You don't think Millwall v west ham is a genuine rivalry? Or west Brom wolves? Just because they are similar sized clubs? I still don't get it. What rivalry would you consider genuine?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I think you really need to learn how to read then... it was spelled out quite clearly. just confused me as you said there was very few genuine rivalries but then explained your criteria and this qualifies loads of clubs as having genuine rivals? I don't think we've got a genuine rival but in that survey loads of clubs had us as second or third team they hate. Always the bridesmaid never the bride us. Besides wigan it would be Bury or tranmere I suppose and none of us want that wedding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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