The point is - torture doesn't work, irrespective of who sanctions it and carries it out. We know this already - the Senate report into 'enhanced interrogation techniques' in the aftermath of 9/11 concluded that not only didn't it work but that “multiple CIA detainees fabricated information, resulting in faulty intelligence.”

 

It's a waste of time and in the words of John McCain (who knows a thing or two about being on the receiving end of that kind of treatment) torture “compromises that which most distinguishes us from our enemies”. Couldn't agree more.

 

 

You could be on to something. Let's torture them by a more cunning method eh? Shower them in Western luxuries - ocean frontage plush apartment; Veuve Cliqout on tap; oiled up Hooters girls pandering to their every perceivable need.

 

The fuckers won't be able to take too much of that and will be singing like larks after a couple of days.

 

Alternatively, just execute the cunts.

Seen the video of the pilot in the cage via some of the lads showing it at work the other day. Absolutely barbaric. The sooner we nuke these cunts the better

Aye - we should definitely prove we are above such barbarism by dropping a nuclear bomb - wiping out Isis and any innocent men, women and children within a 30 mile radius. Cretin! I've heard a few people banding about an atomic weopon, and it would instantly make us 100 times as evil as these deranged fuckers.

Aye - we should definitely prove we are above such barbarism by dropping a nuclear bomb - wiping out Isis and any innocent men, women and children within a 30 mile radius. Cretin! I've heard a few people banding about an atomic weopon, and it would instantly make us 100 times as evil as these deranged fuckers.

 

You must understand the sentiment though? How many innocents will be (and have already been) murdered by those cunts. Removing this cancer holds strong appeal.

Cunt white the only one who gives a fuck about how a terrorist feels

Aye - we should definitely prove we are above such barbarism by dropping a nuclear bomb - wiping out Isis and any innocent men, women and children within a 30 mile radius. Cretin! I've heard a few people banding about an atomic weopon, and it would instantly make us 100 times as evil as these deranged fuckers.

What do we do?

 

I really don't know the answer.

You must understand the sentiment though? How many innocents will be (and have already been) murdered by those cunts. Removing this cancer holds strong appeal.

I absolutely understand the desire for revenge. I watched the video myself tonight and it's sickening. Perhaps more so because it's shot like a Hollywood Blockbuster - high production values, multiple camera angles, the works. Almost makes the whole horrible event seem detached from reality.

 

But a mushroom cloud (or let's face it, multiple mushroom clouds which is what would be necessary) billowing up over Iraq and Syria would be far worse. The fact that people are even suggesting it makes me question their grasp on reality.

What do we do?

 

I really don't know the answer.

Me neither - but I'm absolutely certain that whatever the answer is, it doesn't involve nuclear weapons.

I absolutely understand the desire for revenge. I watched the video myself tonight and it's sickening. Perhaps more so because it's shot like a Hollywood Blockbuster - high production values, multiple camera angles, the works. Almost makes the whole horrible event seem detached from reality.

 

But a mushroom cloud (or let's face it, multiple mushroom clouds which is what would be necessary) billowing up over Iraq and Syria would be far worse. The fact that people are even suggesting it makes me question their grasp on reality.

 

 

I think you need to swat up on tactical nuclear weapons matey. May be possible without opening Pandora's Box completely.

 

'Revenge'? Maybe from relatives and countrymen of the victims of their shock tactic videos.

 

Many of us have a different motive. If you locate a cancer, you remove it. What is baffling me to a point is that a superbly efficient, well armed and disciplined monster grew and then was unleashed in the 30's. The free world was able to take it on and defeat it and yet we pussyfoot around with these primitive cunts?

 

We should be obliterating them now before their strength increases. You can blame the worlds misguided peaceniks for this shit. "No appetite for a ground war". "No (country) boots on Middle Eastern soil". Utter bollocks. It wasn't started by the west. A threat appears and you take it out. Only a question of how many atrocities it will take to change public opinion. In the meantime, IS will butcher tens of thousands of innocents before we finally confront and destroy them..

I wouldn't disagree Bolty. I very much doubt air strikes alone will be enough to ever dislodge or significantly weaken them. Here's one thing that you, me and can George Galloway can all agree on!

I wouldn't disagree Bolty. I very much doubt air strikes alone will be enough to ever dislodge or significantly weaken them. Here's one thing that you, me and can George Galloway can all agree on!

 

 

As you know mate, I would have a drink and a feed with you any day of the week. Not that fucker though. There is a difference between a misguided, well meaning fool and a traitor.

 

There's a compliment in there somewhere pal 

As you know mate, I would have a drink and a feed with you any day of the week. Not that fucker though. There is a difference between a misguided, well meaning fool and a traitor.

 

There's a compliment in there somewhere pal

Ha ha - I'll keep searching for it. It's not immediately obvious I must admit! :-)

Reading about that pilot fair fucks to him standing until he could no more whilst being on fire

Read news report recently that said we're living in one of the most peaceful times in human history. Must have been tough times back in the past.

If a single cow in a herd of hundreds has foot and mouth then they all get culled. Just saying.

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It took a pearl harbour and a 7 year world war to provoke an atom/nuclear bomb being wazzed on a country.

 

We are long way off that yet.

 

Can you imagine the international clearance that would be needed?

 

Until this ISIS have the capabilities to invade countries in the west it's never going to happen in a million years.

 

It took 9/11 for the last invasion and look how that worked out.

Who's saying we play by the rules?

 

Let one of the other madmen drop it.

Can't send ground troops in. When we did to end the murderous Saddam Hussein some British citizens responded with the London bombings.

Who's saying we play by the rules?

 

Let one of the other madmen drop it.

Aye I'm hoping they've tickled the wrong mons balls in having a go with Jordan.

 

Like Danny g said the other day... This can only be resolved in the Middle East and by the Arabs.

 

Let them fuckers sort it out.

 

Until they pose a significant threat to our country then Id rather we keep out of it.

So if it was 1939 and an Austrian madman was committing genocide barely a few hours away from your door, you'd have let it carry on?

It's not 1939 and Isis aren't about to try and invade to every country across Europe.

 

Like I said to Bolty we've already been over there twice and we are back to square one. If it was that easy we would have been over there by now.

 

Yes it's a global issue,but I'd rather Jordan get involved in barbaric tit for tat bloodshed than us.

 

I didnt see many Egyptians and Jordanians queuing up to wade fist and boot into Ireland back in the 90's by the way.

Hang on you said they are not going to invade Europe but it's a global issue?

 

Which is it?

 

They don't need to invade...they are here already and will happily blow up or chop up anyone not agreeing with their cult.

 

When the next atrocity occurs in the UK will you then wake up? These people are global and have no intention of just staying in some desert halfway round the world.

 

Comparing them with a 400 year sectarian war over a tiny island off the irish sea is laughable.

 

Ignore their threat if you want to but like it or not it's real and on the doorstep laying dormant. Just because they're not part of the UN or signed up to the Geneva Convention doesn't mean they can't start a war.

 

Wake up Mon!!

We should blow them out of the sand but paint our missiles with US, China and Russian flags.

Hang on you said they are not going to invade Europe but it's a global issue?

 

Which is it?

 

They don't need to invade...they are here already and will happily blow up or chop up anyone not agreeing with their cult.

 

When the next atrocity occurs in the UK will you then wake up? These people are global and have no intention of just staying in some desert halfway round the world.

 

Comparing them with a 400 year sectarian war over a tiny island off the irish sea is laughable.

 

Ignore their threat if you want to but like it or not it's real and on the doorstep laying dormant. Just because they're not part of the UN or signed up to the Geneva Convention doesn't mean they can't start a war.

 

Wake up Mon!!

What should we do then that isn't already being done?

What should we do then that isn't already being done?

ban religion

What should we do then that isn't already being done?

Cancel the passports of those extremists that fuck off over there and try to come back to the UK. If it's against their human rights, arsed. It's syrias problem to pick up.