Winchester White Posted February 8 Posted February 8 18 minutes ago, Didledee said: So they take away a goal which is the objective of football and would rather give a red card, Liverpool would have taken an extra -1 GD over that red and City have been punished by knocking a goal off, screw whatever laws they went by, just see the situation for what it was. Cherki will never get that goal back, just stupid. Nope, it was the right call. I really don't like VAR but this was right. Goes to show even ex footballers don't understand the rules of the game. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted February 8 Posted February 8 22 minutes ago, Didledee said: Cherki will never get that goal back, just stupid. He should have hit it a bit harder. Quote
MancWanderer Posted February 8 Posted February 8 No blame on the ref for me but fuck me neither shirt pull had an effect on the goal. Just leave it. Common sense refereeing not allowed. It’s the “correct” decision but what a load of shite Kind Regards Grumpy Old Fucker Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Don’t often watch Prem games but that was superb Agree with Neville though. Game’s ruined with shit like that disallowed goal and the red card. Absolute joke I hate VAR with every fibre and would rather have wrong decisions than the soul destroying delays. But while the goal was happening in real time, I didn't understand how he hadn't sent off the Liverpool player for a clear pull, and then he had to disallow the goal because Haaland blatantly stopped him clearing it. On this occasion VAR wasn't the problem, it was just poor refereeing, you can't allow a goal when a player is about to clear it and he just gets pulled back blatantly! And you can't allow a player to do what the Liverpool player did without punishment, otherwise everyone else that pulls a player back in front of goal will just say there's no consistency. Bad refereeing and sorry to say VAR corrected it, I don't like it when VAR appears to be justified. Quote
boltonboris Posted February 8 Posted February 8 28 minutes ago, gonzo said: so bad 🤦♂️ He’s getting sent down for that!! Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Talking of Gary Neville, he does get over excited. When Allison was taking the last goal kick, he said "if the ref has any brain whatsoever, he'll blow his whistle now". Or maybe - the ref will just blow the full time whistle when they've played the full 90 minutes plus injury time? Very condescending to suggest the ref making an incorrect call on time keeping would improve his performance, obviously he's less intelligent if he applies time keeping correctly 🙄 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Reebok makes an appearance too! Cracked me up no end. Quote
MancWanderer Posted February 8 Posted February 8 12 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I hate VAR with every fibre and would rather have wrong decisions than the soul destroying delays. But while the goal was happening in real time, I didn't understand how he hadn't sent off the Liverpool player for a clear pull, and then he had to disallow the goal because Haaland blatantly stopped him clearing it. On this occasion VAR wasn't the problem, it was just poor refereeing, you can't allow a goal when a player is about to clear it and he just gets pulled back blatantly! And you can't allow a player to do what the Liverpool player did without punishment, otherwise everyone else that pulls a player back in front of goal will just say there's no consistency. Bad refereeing and sorry to say VAR corrected it, I don't like it when VAR appears to be justified. I get all that but it was two players fouling each other that had no effect whatsoever on what would have happened. I know. It’s the rules. But ffs I’ve been watching professional footy for 55 years now and I cannot think of any time when it’s been so pernickety. That was a great game and this is the discussion… Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted February 8 Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Didledee said: So they take away a goal which is the objective of football and would rather give a red card, Liverpool would have taken an extra -1 GD over that red and City have been punished by knocking a goal off, screw whatever laws they went by, just see the situation for what it was. Cherki will never get that goal back, just stupid. But you can't choose which rule is applied (goal or sending off), how can they escape a red card offence when every other player that does it gets a 1 match ban? Liverpool's next opponents might have a player suspended for a sending off this weekend, yet they'd have to play against a player that might have committed the same offence? Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: But you can't choose which rule is applied (goal or sending off), how can they escape a red card offence when every other player that does it gets a 1 match ban? Liverpool's next opponents might have a player suspended for a sending off this weekend, yet they'd have to play against a player that might have committed the same offence? Exactly. Can you imagine the outcry if this had happened to any other team in the league, a red card wasn’t dished out and they play Liverpool next week? Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted February 8 Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: But you can't choose which rule is applied (goal or sending off), how can they escape a red card offence when every other player that does it gets a 1 match ban? Liverpool's next opponents might have a player suspended for a sending off this weekend, yet they'd have to play against a player that might have committed the same offence? Out of curiosity, which red card offence would you have sent hom off for ? Quote
bolty58 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 hours ago, MancWanderer said: Don’t often watch Prem games but that was superb Agree with Neville though. Game’s ruined with shit like that disallowed goal and the red card. Absolute joke Spot on. It was 'six o' one, half a dozen o' the other' and should have stood. VAR is proving to be a nightmare. As Gary Neville said, robs us of one of the seasons memorable moments. Cracking goal again from Slobberchops. Quote
bolty58 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 hours ago, MancWanderer said: You’ve got to love non-league footy You'd think the daft fuckers might have quickly concluded that he's not one to run after Quote
Zico Posted February 9 Posted February 9 5 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: I hate VAR with every fibre and would rather have wrong decisions than the soul destroying delays. But while the goal was happening in real time, I didn't understand how he hadn't sent off the Liverpool player for a clear pull, and then he had to disallow the goal because Haaland blatantly stopped him clearing it. On this occasion VAR wasn't the problem, it was just poor refereeing, you can't allow a goal when a player is about to clear it and he just gets pulled back blatantly! And you can't allow a player to do what the Liverpool player did without punishment, otherwise everyone else that pulls a player back in front of goal will just say there's no consistency. Bad refereeing and sorry to say VAR corrected it, I don't like it when VAR appears to be justified. I don't even know what the rule is but thought it was along the lines of red card if you deny a clear goal scoring opportunity, and given it went in, that didn't happen, so it was just, for me, a tussle between two players and you can play the advantage, or something Quote
bolty58 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 18 hours ago, Wanderlust said: What makes you think that? They’re more consistent than us, continue to churn out results and have the motivation of one hand on promotion, so why would they lose form? I wish I could think of a reason why they might crash and burn but I can’t come up with anything realistic other than taking out their team bus with a drone strike, so if you have some inside knowledge please share. FFS, I've seen teams implode from far better positions than Lincolns (or Cardiffs for that matter). We have 45 points to play for. Forty fucking five!!!! You chuck in the towel if you want to. That's what negheads do. I still think we could be champions. Quote
Leyther_Matt Posted February 9 Posted February 9 5 hours ago, Zico said: I don't even know what the rule is but thought it was along the lines of red card if you deny a clear goal scoring opportunity, and given it went in, that didn't happen, so it was just, for me, a tussle between two players and you can play the advantage, or something But it only went in because Haaland pulled Scouse mon back to stop him from clearing it. And he was only in a position to clear it because he’d pulled Haaland back in the first place, so that’s where they went back to. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 9 Posted February 9 8 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said: Out of curiosity, which red card offence would you have sent hom off for ? Denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity Quote
gonzo Posted February 9 Posted February 9 10 hours ago, MancWanderer said: You’ve got to love non-league footy Oh it got better VID-20260207-WA0121.mp4 Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted February 9 Posted February 9 50 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity But if the ball goes in, there is no denying the opportunity. Hence why it was fine to play advantage upto the point that Haaland pulls the liverpool player back, preventing hom clearing it. it wasnt, as Bolty claims, six of one and half a dozen of t'other, it was two seperate incidents. Once the second happened (preventing teh clearance, they have y=to go back and action teh first (DGSO) and give the red). As I say, unseemly, but correct. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted February 9 Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: But if the ball goes in, there is no denying the opportunity. Hence why it was fine to play advantage upto the point that Haaland pulls the liverpool player back, preventing hom clearing it. it wasnt, as Bolty claims, six of one and half a dozen of t'other, it was two seperate incidents. Once the second happened (preventing teh clearance, they have y=to go back and action teh first (DGSO) and give the red). As I say, unseemly, but correct. Well yes, exactly Szloboszai deliberately fouled Haaland, which stopped him from getting there first and ensuring City score That in itself denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity and is a red card offence, no matter what happens afterwards Quote
RUREADY2ROLL Posted February 9 Posted February 9 My take is they should have allowed the goal but sent them both off and banned them for 12 months simply because they are scouser and city players Quote
gonzo Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Nobody would've batted an eyelid if they just leave it and let the goal stand. Quote
freds dad Posted February 9 Posted February 9 13 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Well yes, exactly Szloboszai deliberately fouled Haaland, which stopped him from getting there first and ensuring City score That in itself denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity and is a red card offence, no matter what happens afterwards Imagine if it had been either an equaliser or the winning goal. There would be a social media meltdown Quote
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