Not dead but been sacked...

Didn't he have some sort of marketing agency?

 

Maybe he'll take the pay-off to give himself time to build that up.

He'll turn up as assistant I reckon,probably somewhere good. I feel he knows the game but is not a leader of men. too clever by half.

 

His tactics were designed for a higher level than the Championship but he refused to recognise that he wasn't calling the right sort of tune.

 

Had an eye for a player and I don't think he's done us any long term harm.

 

Hope he gets a good gig and wish him no ill will.

 

Had an eye for a player .

Did he?

Were those the tactics of playing players out of position and playing 4,5,1 every home match regardless of opposition. 

He managed to replace expensive mediocre players with cheap mediocre players so credit where it's due.

Yes and took us to the bottom of the division.

Jay jay wafer cup et al.

 

His tactics were geared towards good players taking limited opportunities against inferior opposition.

 

We wernt good enogh to do as he asked. I don't expect hm to turn up as a number one but feel he'll offer something as a number two.

 

In terms of his legacy, Clayton is likely to make us a few quid and the others (Danns, et at) may do the businesss.

 

Anything that Hall, White, Wilkinson do is a bonus.

 

I didn't enjoy his football but hope his legacy exceeds his time.  

What the hell you on about.

If he'd have stayed we would have been relegated.

Lots of the ol spliff being passed around tonight methinks.

Agree with you Waffer. A coach and a leader is not the same thing.

 

Be willing to guess that NL is not a great coach, but Ivan  Drago and Parker are pretty good.

 

NL just needs to give it the big man and his boys will do the rest, and everyone's a winner.

Sober up then try again.

What the hell you on about.

If he'd have stayed we would have been relegated.

No we wouldn't.

 

He kept us up last season after a terrible start, he kept us up the previous season after inheriting a club plummetting to a second consecutive relegation  & he kept Palace up after they came out of administration. He'd have kept us up this season.

Fair enough Waffer I've had a few. I don't think DF did the sort of long term damage that OC did and no one will convince me otherwise.

No we wouldn't.

 

He kept us up last season after a terrible start, he kept us up the previous season after inheriting a club plummetting to a second consecutive relegation  & he kept Palace up after they came out of administration. He'd have kept us up this season.

Utter rubbish. The bookies are rarely wrong and had us favourites to go back up the first season after relegation and second favourites the second season. We were not plummeting down the leagues, only the manger at the time accelerated that. We're nowhere near the finished article yet, but with some encouragement and some sound and simple management we have turned a corner. I'll lay money that Freedman never gets a job of any note in the future and any job he does get will come nowhere near the opportunity he was given at Bolton. He is not a leader of men.

He managed to replace expensive mediocre players with cheap mediocre players so credit where it's due.

That's not really an achievement

 

Anyone on here could do that if they were told to

 

This line of thinking beggars belief

That's not really an achievement

 

Anyone on here could do that if they were told to

 

This line of thinking beggars belief

I was taking the piss

I was taking the piss

Ah. That'll teach me not to speed read threads when pissed

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Utter rubbish. The bookies are rarely wrong and had us favourites to go back up the first season after relegation and second favourites the second season. We were not plummeting down the leagues, only the manger at the time accelerated that. We're nowhere near the finished article yet, but with some encouragement and some sound and simple management we have turned a corner. I'll lay money that Freedman never gets a job of any note in the future and any job he does get will come nowhere near the opportunity he was given at Bolton. He is not a leader of men.

The bookies are rarely wrong .....they had a 100% record of being wrong there didn't they ?

 

I don't know what you're trying to say. If Coyle had remained as manager , do you think we would have been relegated again or not ?

Aye, you never see a poor bookie eh!

The bookies don't need to be right or wrong, if they've set their books up properly.

The bookies are rarely wrong .....they had a 100% record of being wrong there didn't they ?

 

I don't know what you're trying to say. If Coyle had remained as manager , do you think we would have been relegated again or not ?

 

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to say. You're saying that the bookies got it wrong but Coyle/Freedman got it right by taking us to a new modern low and laughed in the face of the bookies for not setting up their books properly (to coin Traf's logic)? 

 

What I'm trying to say if the first post didn't already spell it out is that Freedman and we can include Coyle if you like, both had a decent enough squad of players to launch a challenge for promotion back to the top flight and the bookies agreed. Neither could do it and systematically reduced the quality of the squad as their failures in management became apparent. It is now down to NL to pick up the pieces and turn the squad around and so far he's making a decent fist of it. We will be able to judge further when he gets the opportunity to wheel and deal in the next two transfer windows.  

If Coyle had remained as manager , do you think we would have been relegated again or not ?

 

No.

Aye, you never see a poor bookie eh!

Im probably wrong but i reckon thats mostly because people bet on all sorts of emotive shite

 

If every fan of every team bet £5 on them winning their respective league, they'd do well for themselves

Wigan appoint Malky

Dave weelan stays classy, a great man of staggering integrity. At least Malky will like the locals.