http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-34961844

 

a few good points followed by a load of crap...

 

tough call, where do you stand?

Edited December 2, 201510 yr by HomerJay

All say so...I don't believe they are, maybe indirectly fifth or sixth hand.

 

How do they have they technology to search, drill and produce Oil, its not just lying about in a big reservoir.

Have they hijacked pipelines???

 

I can't see this conversation being had.

 

ISIS. Is that BP?

BP. Yes

ISIS. We think we have a billion barrels under the sand in Syria, any chance of doing the survey and drilling.

BP. Aye go on then.

ISIS. Cheers, see you next week.

There is plenty available elsewhere that they aren't going after as the price of oil has halved in value

 

I cant see BP stopping any future projects in the North Sea to then go and get involved with ISIS

 

Its another tin foil hat job that

Yes, I get its available, but how are the getting it out of the ground?

 

Its not like the Beverley Hillbillies you know extracting Oil out the ground.

Maggie - Looks like we are both wrong.

 

They have not released location data for 40 percent of drone strikes.

Edited December 3, 201510 yr by mickbrown

And that is relevant how to civilian casualty figures?

Because civilian casualties are reported by local groups on the ground

So how does a local group on the ground determine whether it has been hit by a drone or a Tornado? Given that both are well capable of striking without being seen or heard.  And what difference would it make to those on the ground what they'd been hit by?  The fact remains that there are no allegations of civilian casualties inflicted by British assets, drones or otherwise, in Iraq. And therefore no reason to think that there will be loads in Syria.

You're bright lad Maggie, work it out

Unfortunately I don't think it's me who needs to think it through.

Well we'll leave it at that eh?

ST - My point was that there is so much available oil elsewhere in the world that big multinational oil companies can go after but have shut down the projects as the price of oil has collapsed that they wouldn't not need to get involved with ISIS

 

I would make the assumption that ISIS are not exploring for new oil fields, they are most probably getting what they can out of existing sites and selling it onto the black market for next to nothing (on the open market its now worth less than what we can pull it out of the North Sea for)

Have they hijacked pipelines???

 

Yes. Conversation went.

ISIS TERRORIST: Hello Mr. Pipeline/Oil Refinery manager, and how are you today?

MR. PIPELINE/OIL REFINERY MANAGER: I was fine, until you showed up, now I'm shitting bricks and fearing for my life. Praise be to Allah.

ISIS TERRORIST: No worries, we come in peace. Where does all of your oil go to, and who collects it?

MR. PIPELINE/OIL REFINERY MANAGER: Mr. BP and Mr. Esso send their tankers to collect on a Thursday.

ISIS TERRORIST: Thank you. On Thursday we will blow up Mr. BP and Mr. Esso's tankers. On Friday we will send our own tankers and take your oil.

MR. PIPELINE/OIL REFINERY MANAGER: Ok, well the fact you have an AK47 pointing at my secretaries head, I think I will agree to this. Anything else?

ISIS TERRORIST: Yes, we have all of your employees families under surveillance. Anybody who doesn't like the new deal gets a free family BBQ?

MR. PIPELINE/OIL REFINERY MANAGER: Well that doesn't sound such a bad deal.

ISIS TERRORIST: I shall make it a bit more clear. The family gets thrown on the BBQ.

See, thats all it needed, clarity!!!

I want to know which mad bastards are buying Oil from Isis?

 

They should be held accountable too.

 

Turkey! The ones who want to join the EC, and are already in NATO!

ISIS are using existing fields to produce oil, these files will have a certain number of spares to fix things, but if you target certain pieces of equipment then you effectively shut those fields down, and you don't pop down to you local store and buy these

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/one-politician%E2%80%99s-powerful-speech-on-syria-moved-british-lawmakers-to-tears-and-applause/ar-AAfWXXq?li=AAaeUIW

 

 

anybody who hasn't seen benns speech, should catch it

 

very powerful

 

very moving

 

very brave

As opposed to that jock leftie Mairie tweeting her shame hearing MPs cheer when the vote came in. Yes, course they were whooping and hollering at the thought of people being killed.

Kids shouldn't be allowed in parliament.

Some of the stuff being posted on social media is making my blood boil

 

One particular FB group called save humanity is passing off a video of a poor Syrian boy who lost 40 members of his family as the consequences of western bombing. This video has been on you tune for 2 years and is in fact the outcome of Assad barrel bombing his own people back in 2013 - this is around the time that he also used chemical weapons on his own people - we voted to use our air force to help fight Assad on behalf of the free Syrian army and this poor Syrian Boy but our MP's voted NO, we turned the other cheek and thought we are better off out of it

 

and now anti bombing campaigners are trying to pass the video off as if we've done this damage (when I say we I mean the united nations led campaign against ISIS)

 

Three times it has appeared on my fb feed and three times I've posted the link to youtube showing its 2 years old and is misleading information - but every time the link is removed by the site

 

Social media is allowing dangerous amounts of miss information to cloud the judgment of people from both sides of the argument - this sort of thing divides us when we should be united in our opposition of the genocide taking place in Syria and Iraq

Social media is allowing dangerous amounts of miss information to cloud the judgment of people from both sides of the argument - this sort of thing divides us when we should be united in our opposition of the genocide taking place in Syria and Iraq

That's because Facebook is full of fucking twats who read 'the news' through these sorts of links without doing any sort of research through traditional news outlets to verify it.

 

My Mrs would be one if I didn't keep her in check. The amount of times her initial opinion on things is based purely on the headlines of these posts is a joke!

That's because Facebook is full of fucking twats who read 'the news' through these sorts of links without doing any sort of research through traditional news outlets to verify it.

 

My Mrs would be one if I didn't keep her in check. The amount of times her initial opinion on things is based purely on the headlines of these posts is a joke!

Aye all you need to do is post picture of a quote coming out of the mouth of a minion or any famous person, regardless of whether they said it or not, and folk will believe it

Sad and very true

Point to note regarding oil - one of the reasons the regime collapsed with barely a whimper in Libya was due to our targeting of oil assets. And I was VVITK at that time.

As opposed to that jock leftie Mairie tweeting her shame hearing MPs cheer when the vote came in. Yes, course they were whooping and hollering at the thought of people being killed.

Kids shouldn't be allowed in parliament.

Why were they whooping and a hollering any road? . It's the fucking Houses of Parliament not Burnden Paddock.

Why were they whooping and a hollering any road? . It's the fucking Houses of Parliament not Burnden Paddock.

The vocality is part of it, always has been as they cannot applaud.. She's probably not au fai with that yet.

Edited December 3, 201510 yr by no balls

I watched the announcement of the vote live and there was silence at the result. The only cheering I saw was for Hilary Benn's speech.