http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-34961844

 

a few good points followed by a load of crap...

 

tough call, where do you stand?

Edited December 2, 201510 yr by HomerJay

The lovely Yasmin is against it. Who'd have thought.

The lovely Yasmin is against it. Who'd have thought.

Where does Simon stand on it?

The lovely Yasmin is against it. Who'd have thought.

She's been on a fact finding trip to Jordan, T'Egypt and some other shithole (no not Farnworth) so she's an expert.

 

Worry that had we bombed Syria last time we would have actually been helping ISIS because the plan was to attack Assad. Hope there is more of a joined up plan this time. Probably need to do it because we can't seen to be holding back on our allies. The sooner we forget about foisting democracy on Arabs, join up with our western allies, Russky comrades and those Muzzies who hate IS (Assad for better or worse is one such) and come up with a proper plan to eliminate them from the face of the planet then the better. Not having any truck with those who say it will make us more of a target (Yasmin & Friends) we already are targets to these nutters.

 

But we also have to sort out the snakes in the grass like Saudi Arabia and Turkey. Saudi's arming more terrorists than anybody and Turks letting Isis run amok across their border with Syria, buying Isis oil and attacking those brave Kurds under pretence of joining the fight against Isis. Not to mention blackmailing the EU by flooding Europe with refugees. They need sorting and it might be Putin who does it rather than powder puff EU or UN.

Vote for air strikes etc, we are a target for being more involved

 

vote against, we become a target as ISIS want the provocation...

 

damned if do, etc

 

Be interesting if Yasmin Quwasi (SP), has been to Syria, and if she maintains that opinion

just a couple of points

 

the lefties are usually all over quoting un resolutions

 

not this time as theres one on the table 'requiring' all countries who can contribute to get stuck in

 

 

also and this is proper pissing me off

 

the bbc insisting on sticking with the term isis 'on the grounds of impartiality'

 

islamic state of iraq and syria

 

a state that doesnt exist

 

a mob who arent islamic anything, just murdering thugs

 

 

finally, what time will hilary benn be speaking, quite looking forward to that

Ah, Saudi Arabia, what a strange to do this is. They're mates with us because we sell them guns which they give to their mates in ISIS.

I see a woman has been sentenced today to be stoned to death for adultery. Bet the slag deserves it as do the 50 pro democracy folk who are going to have their heads chopped off.

If we are flattening anywhere Saudi can be added to the list, thanks.

on and burnham

 

playing politics today seeing as corbyn is in a precarious position

 

'ill be voting against'

 

'would you change your mind if a paris type attack happened here'

 

'maybe'

I don't give a fuck about bombing em in Syria or Iraq.

I don't pay heed to the whiners who worry about more disenchanted muzzles hitting back in the UK, they would do it anyway.

I simply believe it will count for fuck all unless there is a genuine coalition with the French, Russian and yanks with ground troops involved. Trouble is we have kow towed to Saudi for too long and backed the wrong uns in Iraq, Libya and now Syria. And seeing our prime minister frothing at the mouth for it and accusing anyone who thinks otherwise as a terrorist sympathiser makes me say a big NO.

Edited December 2, 201510 yr by bgoefc

Well Hillary Benn just destroyed his own leader. Not hard to do, but full marks for having the balls to do it.

I'm in

 

Not because we will be any more or less safe

 

These fuckers have the most insane ideology since the nazi's

 

They've committed genocide against the yazidis and are committing atrocities on a daily basis

 

If their army are marching through Syria ready to take another city and murder thousands more then I believe we should join the UN and the rest of the world in bombing the shit out of that army and protect the people they are about to slaughter

 

It takes a special sort of nutcase to unite Iran, Saudi, Turkey, Us, France, Russia, Denmark etc etc etc all under one cause

 

We can't look on with this, these fuckers need to be stopped

I reckon Corbyn will change his mind after what the right honourable member for Leeds Central said. And a round of applause to boot. Good god.

What did he say?

I reckon Corbyn will change his mind after what the right honourable member for Leeds Central said. And a round of applause to boot. Good god.

 

Being wrong for 40 years, obviously so, has yet to make Jeremy change his mind.

Being wrong for 40 years, obviously so, has yet to make Jeremy change his mind.

Haha. He nearly clapped ????

Here is the final section of Hilary Benn’s speech, which was greeted by (a very unusual) round of applause in the chamber.

 

Mr Speaker, I hope the House will bear with me if I direct my closing remarks to my Labour friends and colleagues on this side of the house. As a party, we have always been defined by our internationalism. We believe we have a responsibility, one to another. We never have and we never should walk by on the other side of the road.

 

And we are here faced by fascists. Not just their calculated brutality, but their belief that they are superior to every single one of us in this chamber tonight and all of the people we represent. They hold us in contempt. They hold our values in contempt. They hold our belief in tolerance and decency in contempt. They hold our democracy – the means by which we will make our decision tonight – in contempt.

 

And what we know about fascists is that they need to be defeated and it is why, as we have heard tonight, socialists and trade unionists were just one part of the international brigade in the 1930s to fight against Franco. It’s why this entire House stood up against Hitler and Mussolini. It’s why our party has always stood up against the denial of human rights and for justice and my view, Mr Speaker, is that we must now confront this evil. It is now time for us to do our bit in Syria and that is why I ask my colleagues to vote in favour of this motion tonight.

I can't argue with any of that

 

Never look on when fascists are commiting genocide

Brilliant Birchy

Brilliant Birchy

It was and it made David Cameron's speech look wishy washy by comparison. We don't need to be told again and again that IS aren't Islamic or proper Muslim (they certainly believe they are). IS are fascists end of. And we should all unite against them, can't talk to folk like that

397/223 the ayes have it

So here we go.

£800K per missile.

As read elsewhere, we could feed the homeless over Xmas for the cost of this.

No doubt we'll be dropping dozens per day.

We are already doing it in Iraq and as IS don't recognise the border it isn't going to change much, until the coalition against IS goes in on the ground.

We are already doing it in Iraq and as IS don't recognise the border it isn't going to change much, until the coalition against IS goes in on the ground.

I've been wondering why there has been no ground troops thus far, surely it can't be too far from happening

Not keen on seeing them all have a chuckle in the house after the vote.

Send troops in too

 

Get rid of these ISIS nutcases