royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 You asked me for proof.. Only fair you do the same or is it another of your fake news. You said others had behaved worse than him.. Prove it I take it you didn’t notice the false war in Iraq? The one where the presidents and PM caused 100s of thousands of lives? Do you live in a cave? Or is the death of all them innocent people not as bad as mocking someone? Quote
mickbrown Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 However as you asked (sorry I have no video) https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/08/charity-anger-mps-paul-maynard-disability No vid. Fake news. That's how it works now eh? Quote
mickbrown Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 I take it you didn’t notice the false war in Iraq? The one where the presidents and PM caused 100s of thousands of lives? Do you live in a cave? Or is the death of all them innocent people not as bad as mocking someone? And Trump would have been balls deep in that given half the chance Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 No vid. Fake news. That's how it works now eh? Yes I can live with that, however I’m still struggling to see how killing all them innocent people is not as bad as mocking someone, maybe you could give Salford a hand as he’s struggling at the moment and making lies up again Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 And Trump would have been balls deep in that given half the chance Ok Quote
kent_white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Yes I can live with that, however I’m still struggling to see how killing all them innocent people is not as bad as mocking someone, maybe you could give Salford a hand as he’s struggling at the moment and making lies up again It's not as bad as being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. I don't think anybody is claiming it is are they? You'd have to be a moron to think that. But then I did go on the anti war marches in London. I haven't yet been on an anti Donald Trump mocking the disabled march because there's no moral equivalence. It doesn't stop him being a cock though. Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 It's not as bad as being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. I don't think anybody is claiming it is are they? You'd have to be a moron to think that. But then I did go on the anti war marches in London. I haven't yet been on an anti Donald Trump mocking the disabled march because there's no moral equivalence. It doesn't stop him being a cock though. “You said others had behaved worse than him.. Prove it” That was posted by Salford to whom I was replying about 20 minutes ago Do you lot just dive in at any point of a topic and try and twist it to suit yourselves. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) However as you asked (sorry I have no video) https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2011/feb/08/charity-anger-mps-paul-maynard-disability You said seasoned politicians?? I take it from this you can't find any so case closed Edited August 30, 2018 by Salford Trotter Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 You said seasoned politicians?? I take it from this you can't find any so case closed Eh? “Which british politicans have mocked the disabled? Show me the videos of where they said it so i can believe you?” That is what you posted so that is what I replied to, keep digging Salford, I know you edited your last post but you didn’t edit he original! Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 You think otherwise? Go on, tell me what inside intelligence you have to make you assume Trump would have been balls deep. Quote
mickbrown Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Go on, tell me what inside intelligence you have to make you assume Trump would have been balls deep. I'm surmising. His belligerence stance since being elected points to him being balls deep given half a chance Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 I'm surmising. His belligerence stance since being elected points to him being balls deep given half a chance Ok Quote
kent_white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 “You said others had behaved worse than him.. Prove it” That was posted by Salford to whom I was replying about 20 minutes ago Do you lot just dive in at any point of a topic and try and twist it to suit yourselves. I'm pretty sure most of us would clobber somebody who acted like DT did if we saw it happening in real life. And I don't think anybody would blame you for it. I just don't understand why you feel the need to make excuses for him. Anyhow - we aren't going to agree so it's pointless carrying on really. I'll leave you to mull over your own principles. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Eh? “Which british politicans have mocked the disabled? Show me the videos of where they said it so i can believe you?” That is what you posted so that is what I replied to, keep digging Salford, I know you edited your last post but you didn’t edit he original! You said "seasoned politicans", those are your words not mine and you come up with a feeble attempt to prove your own point which proves you had no foundation for your claim, do i hear fake news? On a more important point that charity should be ashamed if themselves, in fact i would go as far to say heads should've have rolled for that if they didn't at the time. The simple fact is there are no politicans of any note that mock the disabled other than trump. No doubt i will be labelled 'weird' or 'scumbag' now hahaha Quote
Salford Trotter Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 I'm surmising. His belligerence stance since being elected points to him being balls deep given half a chance He will be asking for videos of Trump balls deep next, Putin has those though Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 I'm pretty sure most of us would clobber somebody who acted like DT did if we saw it happening in real life. And I don't think anybody would blame you for it. I just don't understand why you feel the need to make excuses for him. Anyhow - we aren't going to agree so it's pointless carrying on really. I'll leave you to mull over your own principles. Where do you sit on match day? I see a hell of a lot worse but I’ve never seen fans filing each other in over it (I’m guessing west upper) I’ve not made excuses for him and constantly said he’s far from perfect however from me pressing “add reply” to you and 1 or 2 other receiving it parts of my comments must have been deleted! I’ll say it again, he’s far from perfect, he’s made mistakes (not as big as some of the other seasoned politicians). Twist them words all you want to fit your own agenda however I’m pretty sure it’s quite accurate. Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 You said "seasoned politicans", those are your words not mine and you come up with a feeble attempt to prove your own point which proves you had no foundation for your claim, do i hear fake news? On a more important point that charity should be ashamed if themselves, in fact i would go as far to say heads should've have rolled for that if they didn't at the time. The simple fact is there are no politicans of any note that mock the disabled other than trump. No doubt i will be labelled 'weird' or 'scumbag' now hahaha Salford just go back to your post which you asked the question I replied to! If you want to ask me a different question then type it I know I’m good but I’m not psychic! Quote
kent_white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Where do you sit on match day? I see a hell of a lot worse but I’ve never seen fans filing each other in over it (I’m guessing west upper) I’ve not made excuses for him and constantly said he’s far from perfect however from me pressing “add reply” to you and 1 or 2 other receiving it parts of my comments must have been deleted! I’ll say it again, he’s far from perfect, he’s made mistakes (not as big as some of the other seasoned politicians). Twist them words all you want to fit your own agenda however I’m pretty sure it’s quite accurate. All I wanted you to say is that Donald Trump was a cock for mocking someone with a disability. But you can't even bring yourself to do that. And I've never seen someone mock a disabled person at the match. And if they did they'd deserve to get slapped in my opinion. And I'm ESL. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Salford just go back to your post which you asked the question I replied to! If you want to ask me a different question then type it I know I’m good but I’m not psychic! You can't prove the point you made so thats fine. Let's move on now Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 All I wanted you to say is that Donald Trump was a cock for mocking someone with a disability. But you can't even bring yourself to do that. And I've never seen someone mock a disabled person at the match. And if they did they'd deserve to get slapped in my opinion. And I'm ESL. I’ve said he was wrong, what more do you want? Have you praised him when he’s done good? Quote
royal white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 You can't prove the point you made so thats fine. Let's move on now Eh? What points that? Are you just on the wind up? Quote
MalcolmW Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 American politics is a dirty business. In 2000 McCain was challenging Bush jnr for the Republican nomination for President. Bush had the big money backing but was shaken by McCain's win in the New Hampshire primary. They realised they could face a problem on military records (McCain, son of an Admiral and grandson of another, shot down over Vietnam - could not escape as he had 2 broken legs and a broken arm - gave up the opportunity of earlier release so as not to embarrass his father, whereas Bush escaped the draft by his father placing him ahead of 100,000 applicants for a Texas national guard post - saving Texas from attack by Oklahoma). There were photos of McCain with his adopted daughter, an orphan from Bangladesh, so the Bush team claimed he had fathered a child by a black woman - it went down well in the Southern states. Quote
Spider Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 Trump has basically bought his way into the job. He appealed to a very basic set of emotions amongst an electorate that was willing to suckle at the teets if anyone who spoke their language. For that, he can be credited with achieving something big. It does not change the undeniable facts that he is a total foreskin. They got what they deserved though. Quote
kent_white Posted August 30, 2018 Posted August 30, 2018 I’ve said he was wrong, what more do you want? Have you praised him when he’s done good? If you have - then that's the first time I've noticed you say it. I'm struggling to think of many things he's done in office that I'd describe as 'good'. Although I'm sure there must be something. The only recent thing I can think of is appointing Kelvin Droegemeier as a science advisor - as a balance to the climate change skeptics he's been surrounding himself with. You could argue he acted resolutely to the chemical weapons use in Syria - so I'd praise him for that. Although at the time I thought he was taking an almighty risk. Quote
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