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We were talking the other day about how Donald Trump should have handled John Mccain's passing. This is Obama doing it. Watch and learn Donald.....

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-45383800/john-mccain-obama-on-last-laugh-of-former-political-rival

Really? Former presidents using a funeral as a platform to have sligh digs at DT.

 

Surely if JM was as good as people are now making him out to be he would have had a pop at being a president....guess what, he didn’t get a pop!

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Really? Former presidents using a funeral as a platform to have sligh digs at DT.

 

Surely if JM was as good as people are now making him out to be he would have had a pop at being a president....guess what, he didn’t get a pop!

I don't see it as having a pop. I see it as showing that you can have a disagreement about politics - without having to question the other person's character or integrity. You can even admire them. And I imagine that's why John McCain asked Obama to speak at his funeral.

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I don't see it as having a pop. I see it as showing that you can have a disagreement about politics - without having to question the other person's character or integrity. You can even admire them. And I imagine that's why John McCain asked Obama to speak at his funeral.

You probably won’t but it seems the majority of the worlds press do, along with fans of BO, Bush and DT

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What a gulf there is between Trump, that acts like a petulant kid that will kick and scream until he gets his own way and the statesman that is Barack Obama. I don't share Obama's politics but he is on a different planet to Rump

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What a gulf there is between Trump, that acts like a petulant kid that will kick and scream until he gets his own way and the statesman that is Barack Obama. I don't share Obama's politics but he is on a different planet to Rump

 

On the achievements front (unless you want to argue about the undeserved Nobel peace Prize)? You are right. Obama changed or achieved nothing.

 

I'll raise your Rump with a Bollock Obama  :rolleyes2:

 

Before you blow your fucking fuses again - I do agree with you that not attending McCains funeral was probably a mistake both tactically and on a human level. You can despise someones politics but still respect them as a person. McCain was certainly a US war hero and should have received respect for that alone.

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On the achievements front (unless you want to argue about the undeserved Nobel peace Prize)? You are right. Obama changed or achieved nothing.

 

Before you blow your fucking fuses again - I do agree with you that not attending McCains funeral was probably a mistake both tactically and on a human level. You can despise someones politics but still respect them as a person. McCain was certainly a US war hero and should have received respect for that alone.

He wasn’t invited mate

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He wasn’t invited mate

 

 

I did note the family representation there so the critics will have to be happy with that (that's a fucking joke - they'll find something to fucking moan about).

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I did note the family representation there so the critics will have to be happy with that (that's a fucking joke - they'll find something to fucking moan about).

They’ll be saying how disrespectful he is because he went for a round of golf whilst the funeral was taking place, obviously he will give zero fucks :)

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What a gulf there is between Trump, that acts like a petulant kid that will kick and scream until he gets his own way and the statesman that is Barack Obama. I don't share Obama's politics but he is on a different planet to Rump

Yes he did amazing reading a well rehearsed speech, we almost got a few crocodile tears thrown in for good measure

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Really? Former presidents using a funeral as a platform to have sligh digs at DT.

 

Surely if JM was as good as people are now making him out to be he would have had a pop at being a president....guess what, he didn’t get a pop!

 

He did stand for the Republican ticket against Bush jnr in 2000. After McCain won the New Hampshire, and Bush realised how vulnerable he was on their military records, they simply spewed disgraceful fake news to sweep the Southern states and ensure the nomination. 

(see several pages above for more details).

 

Oh, and is this the same McCain who said "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"?

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It’s also the same McCain who said he’d got it wrong on Iraq.

 

I’m not wholesale defending him, just your last sentence doesn’t paint the full picture.

 

He wasn’t a saint, but the ability to apologise on holding a position that has shown to be wrong seems to be a forgotten quality in today’s political landscape.

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Yes he did amazing reading a well rehearsed speech, we almost got a few crocodile tears thrown in for good measure

Imagine rehearsing a speech. What an amateur. You'd be very get any of that bollocks from DT. He'd just wing it in his own inimitable way.

 

'Let me tell you. Me and John had the best friendship, I was like really his best friend. A special friend. It was really tremendous. Probably the best friendship ever. Everybody knew that, really the best kind of friends. And I have a lot of friends, probably more friends than anyone has had before. People say Hillary Clinton had a lot of friends, well let me tell you, I've got ten times more friends. And they're better people. Really the best people. Everybody knows this. It's a fact people. Make no mistake, those scumbags from the fake news media who try to say that I don't have all these great friends. Fake news. Just look at their ratings. Really they have the worst numbers, just the worst. They're enedcucated. I love uneducated people. But these ones are just liars and I'm gonna do something about it let me tell you.'

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This 'groping scandal' is utter bollocks no the way.

That says more about you than the gropey bishop, he's copping a sneaky feel with the standard "hand mistakenly slightly too high" trick.

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That says more about you than the gropey bishop, he's copping a sneaky feel with the standard "hand mistakenly slightly too high" trick.

It's lovely to hear that you hold me in a lower regard than the man you think is molesting a woman live on stage. Cheers for that.

 

I don't think there's any way to be sure one way or the other. Has this bloke got any track history? Certainly doesn't warrant anywhere near the amount of attention it's receiving in my opinion.

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Really? Former presidents using a funeral as a platform to have sligh digs at DT.

 

Surely if JM was as good as people are now making him out to be he would have had a pop at being a president....guess what, he didn’t get a pop!

Just reading a bit more about it. Seems John McCain's daughter was also using her father's funeral 'to have sly digs at DT'

 

"We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness.

 

"The real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly, nor the opportunistic appropriation of those who live lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served.

 

"The America of John McCain is generous and welcoming and bold, she is resourceful and confident and secure, she meets her responsibilities, she speaks quietly because she is strong.

 

"America does not boast, because she does not need to. The America of John McCain has no need to be made great again, because America was always great."

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Just reading a bit more about it. Seems John McCain's daughter was also using her father's funeral 'to have sly digs at DT'

 

"We gather here to mourn the passing of American greatness.

 

"The real thing, not cheap rhetoric from men who will never come near the sacrifice he gave so willingly, nor the opportunistic appropriation of those who live lives of comfort and privilege while he suffered and served.

 

"The America of John McCain is generous and welcoming and bold, she is resourceful and confident and secure, she meets her responsibilities, she speaks quietly because she is strong.

 

"America does not boast, because she does not need to. The America of John McCain has no need to be made great again, because America was always great."

What a pleasant contrast to Trump's bile
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Imagine rehearsing a speech. What an amateur. You'd be very get any of that bollocks from DT. He'd just wing it in his own inimitable way.

 

'Let me tell you. Me and John had the best friendship, I was like really his best friend. A special friend. It was really tremendous. Probably the best friendship ever. Everybody knew that, really the best kind of friends. And I have a lot of friends, probably more friends than anyone has had before. People say Hillary Clinton had a lot of friends, well let me tell you, I've got ten times more friends. And they're better people. Really the best people. Everybody knows this. It's a fact people. Make no mistake, those scumbags from the fake news media who try to say that I don't have all these great friends. Fake news. Just look at their ratings. Really they have the worst numbers, just the worst. They're enedcucated. I love uneducated people. But these ones are just liars and I'm gonna do something about it let me tell you.'

He probably would, but then again I reckon he would stop at the fake tears

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It's lovely to hear that you hold me in a lower regard than the man you think is molesting a woman live on stage. Cheers for that..

I meant that as a decent sort copping a sly one would be out of your frame of reference but your guilty reaction suggests otherwise.

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