is that it now game over no chance of POTUS

 

Rayguns out

I think every news outlet in the world, left or right, reported the attacks on the embassy in Iraq. Weird how some have managed to miss it 

44 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Tens of millions, mainly democrats or left leaning folk, as for your assumption he’s a fool, hardly, successful businessman, elected president by millions of Americans, think I’ll take the democratic choice of the American public over your opinion. 

Successful businessman that has been made bankrupt 4 or was it 6 times on inherited money? Give me a break Mounts. I have many relatives in the US on both sides of the political spectrum that think he's a dick and think he has taken the US back in its international standing

1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said:

Successful businessman that has been made bankrupt 4 or was it 6 times on inherited money? Give me a break Mounts. I have many relatives in the US on both sides of the political spectrum that think he's a dick and think he has taken the US back in its international standing

But he’s still in business, bounced back and whether they think he’s a dick or not he still got voted in to power. (And being a bit of a dick does not mean you cannot be a good president and run the country successfully) 

28 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

But he’s still in business, bounced back and whether they think he’s a dick or not he still got voted in to power. (And being a bit of a dick does not mean you cannot be a good president and run the country successfully) 

I bet his tax returns could tell us a story or two about how successful he really is but we might not get to see them sadly. I wonder why he is so secretive about them? 🤔

2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

I bet his tax returns could tell us a story or two about how successful he really is but we might not get to see them sadly. I wonder why he is so secretive about them? 🤔

The man has just had one of the most dangerous men in the world taken out but you’re moaning because you haven’t seen his tax returns 😂😂🤦‍♂️

1 hour ago, birch-chorley said:

It’s clear that since he reneged on the deal relations have escalated / got worse 

Please give me 1 good reason why it was right for him to tear that deal up when ourselves and the rest of the world still believed it to be for the greater good? (When I say 1 good reason, I don’t mean because he fancied it and he’s the President) 

I hope your right and it does improve after this event, the last thing the global economy needs is escalations in the Middle East driving through prices of oil up

That’s without even thinking about the thousands of folk that usually die when it kicks off in the ME 

Let's put this straight fella.

How many have died in the Middle East before us or the US got involved ?

Millions is your answer.

It will never be solved

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Don't forget infowars 

And CNN for you sir 😂

I note CNN even said Trump did the correct thing in taking out the Iranian Clooney.

49 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Successful businessman that has been made bankrupt 4 or was it 6 times on inherited money? Give me a break Mounts. I have many relatives in the US on both sides of the political spectrum that think he's a dick and think he has taken the US back in its international standing

How's the US economy doing mate ? How's their record on employment doing  ?

 

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

How's the US economy doing mate ? How's their record on employment doing  ?

 

Are we talking about the record  national debt or the stock market mate? 

The U.S. government's public debt is now more than $22 trillion — the highest it has ever been. The Treasury Department data comes as tax revenue has fallen and federal spending continues to rise. The new debt level reflects a rise of more than $2 trillion from the day President Trump took office in 2017.13 Feb 2019

2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Are we talking about the record  national debt or the stock market mate? 

The U.S. government's public debt is now more than $22 trillion — the highest it has ever been. The Treasury Department data comes as tax revenue has fallen and federal spending continues to rise. The new debt level reflects a rise of more than $2 trillion from the day President Trump took office in 2017.13 Feb 2019

Did you forget to Google employment? No doubt it's all down to Obama....remind me again how much he gave to his brothers in Iran, which funded their proxy wars.

 

 

6 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Did you forget to Google employment? No doubt it's all down to Obama....remind me again how much he gave to his brothers in Iran, which funded their proxy wars.

 

 

It's been dropping for 10 years mate. I don't know how much he gave them and what is was for but I am sure you are going to tell me😂

5 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

It's been dropping for 10 years mate. I don't know how much he gave them and what is was for but I am sure you are going to tell me😂

Pete, I know you're not thick but unemployment rates in the US fell to a record 50 year low in September mate.

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

There's a case for backing what Trump has done but it'd be easier to do if it could be seen as part of a wider and more consistent strategy. Iran is a menace in the Middle-East. Obama's compromises (and those of some previous US presidents) have not been reciprocated by Tehran. It's fair to say that if you're going to negotiate with Iran, the Shia extremists who run the place need to understand that you won't flinch at hurting them militarily if required. I would also avoid assessing this from the perspective of the liberal with a god complex who automatically judges anything Trump does as wrong.

However - any academic study of the foreign policy of US presidents has always summed up in a "doctrine". A framework that acts as a guide to decisions for each administration. It's been pretty easy to summarise what the doctrine of each president has been: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_doctrines

That wiki piece makes an attempt at a Trump doctrine, but let's face it, it's not easy. He's capricious and unpredictable and you can't help have the impression he makes off the cuff decisions. 

A strong warning shot across Iran's bows is probably overdue. Can we be sure that we'll get consistency from Trump and that he'll get it right in the future? No.

Bang on.

👍

6 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Pete, I know you're not thick but unemployment rates in the US fell to a record 50 year low in September mate.

Coz he kicked all the Mexicans out 😁💣

14 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

It's been dropping for 10 years mate. I don't know how much he gave them and what is was for but I am sure you are going to tell me😂

Here you go twatty 😂

Senate investigation as well...........oh dear

Also answers Brich's question re the deal.

Iran are trouble ...end of.

 

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-iran-terrorism/

28 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Are we talking about the record  national debt or the stock market mate? 

The U.S. government's public debt is now more than $22 trillion — the highest it has ever been. The Treasury Department data comes as tax revenue has fallen and federal spending continues to rise. The new debt level reflects a rise of more than $2 trillion from the day President Trump took office in 2017.13 Feb 2019

No mention of GDP growth there!

See what I mean, GDP means fuck all if you're spending faster then you're earning.

9 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Pete, I know you're not thick but unemployment rates in the US fell to a record 50 year low in September mate.

You're right I'm not thick and neither are you so don't just pick out the bits of the story that suit you your narrative. Unemployment has been falling over the last 10 years in the US much in the same way the Dow had been growing way before Trump came to office both continuing trends started by Obama. 😂

 

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No mention of GDP growth there!

See what I mean, GDP means fuck all if you're spending faster then you're earning.

Bingo mate.

Like I said last night, we'll be fine when the Eastern Europeans fuck off, as ST can do all the seasonal work and cherry pick like he's so good at now 😊

3 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

You're right I'm not thick and neither are you so don't just pick out the bits of the story that suit you your narrative. Unemployment has been falling over the last 10 years in the US much in the same way the Dow had been growing way before Trump came to office both continuing trends started by Obama. 😂

 

Peter Abbott.....maths may not be your strong point....10 years does not equate to a 50 year low does it ?

Now, I await your response on Obama and his money.....

1 minute ago, miamiwhite said:

Bingo mate.

Like I said last night, we'll be fine when the Eastern Europeans fuck off, as ST can do all the seasonal work and cherry pick like he's so good at now 😊

Be no one to pour the ale and serve meat and tata bricks at the unibol.

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No mention of GDP growth there!

See what I mean, GDP means fuck all if you're spending faster then you're earning.

When did I say it was the only measure? What I said was it was the only way to compare economies but if you want get specific about one economy as Miami did then all I did was remind him of the other measures that he chooses to ignore

Edited January 4, 20206 yr by Salford Trotter

8 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Here you go twatty 😂

Senate investigation as well...........oh dear

Also answers Brich's question re the deal.

Iran are trouble ...end of.

 

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-iran-terrorism/

It’s quite incredible that democrats and labour seem to be so fond of countries, terrorist organisations that want to destroy our western way of life, really incredible that some folk would vote for them, it’s really important to understand who your friends are and who your enemies are when you put the X in the box. 

2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Peter Abbott.....maths may not be your strong point....10 years does not equate to a 50 year low does it ?

Now, I await your response on Obama and his money.....

So when the rate was falling between 2010-2016 there is no credit due to Obama? 

I have no idea about the other point

8 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Bingo mate.

Like I said last night, we'll be fine when the Eastern Europeans fuck off, as ST can do all the seasonal work and cherry pick like he's so good at now 😊

I'm cherry picking? 😂😂😂😂😂

4 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

When did I say it was the only measure? What I said was it was the only way to compare economies but if you want get specific about one economy as Miami did then all I did was remind him of the other measures that he chooses to ignore

You mentioned metrics or some such.

It's a rather daft way of assessing the performance of a country if done in isolation.

America has the biggest economy, but doesn't mean it tops the table for best places. Not the best way to compare economies; growth would be better than an absolute figure, as it shows direction of travel.