is that it now game over no chance of POTUS

 

Rayguns out

2 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Why, have we a despot somewhere in the world who needs to feel the wrath of the UK armed forces on some trumped up idea they may have stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction?

Oh aye, he's not for everyone and Iraq did for him but he's the only leader we've had since Thatcher who had any kind of gravitas and grasp of domestic issues.

1 minute ago, Duck Egg said:

Do you think there's any chance Blair might come back? By Christ, we could do with him.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, a credible opposition is vital for the democracy of this country. I’ve voted for three different parties. The only tIme I voted Labour was when Blair was in charge. 
The middle ground in politics is what determines any election. (in the U.K.)

Ideology is for the fringes. Left or right.

The (silent) majority always wins.
 

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, a credible opposition is vital for the democracy of this country. I’ve voted for three different parties. The only tIme I voted Labour was when Blair was in charge. 
The middle ground in politics is what determines any election. (in the U.K.)

Ideology is for the fringes. Left or right.

The (silent) majority always wins.
 

It does

And maybe the silent majority got what they deserved.

Old Creepy Joe doesn’t seem to be doing as well as people had hoped. One of his main campaign pledges was to get a grip of covid….he isn’t doing to well with that. 

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

It does

And maybe the silent majority got what they deserved.

Just like Brexit? You put your little cross in that box confident that you’ve made the right decision. You get what you deserve.

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Just like Brexit? You put your little cross in that box confident that you’ve made the right decision. You get what you deserve.

Yep.

It’s important to acknowledge a mistake if you’ve made one.

Seems less stressful than digging your heels in and defending a shit decision.

Anyone who says they get everything right is either a simpleton or a murderer. The rest of us aren’t perfect.

19 minutes ago, royal white said:

Old Creepy Joe doesn’t seem to be doing as well as people had hoped. One of his main campaign pledges was to get a grip of covid….he isn’t doing to well with that. 

At least he hasn't suggested necking domestos yet.

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8 minutes ago, Spider said:

Yep.

It’s important to acknowledge a mistake if you’ve made one.

Seems less stressful than digging your heels in and defending a shit decision.

Anyone who says they get everything right is either a simpleton or a murderer. The rest of us aren’t perfect.

Yep. And as you agree. You get what you vote for. That’s democracy.

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Has Biden invited his supporters to steam into the senate yet?

Has he built a wall in colorado

etc…

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Yep. And as you agree. You get what yo deserve. That’s democracy.

I didn’t vote for this shitshow though.

And I’m being kind describing it as such.

Its a tawdry, deeply despicable government we have. The rest of us deserve better.

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yep. And as you agree. You get what you vote for. That’s democracy.

We've a strange version of democracy though. Generally most people don't get what they vote for.

Just now, Spider said:

I didn’t vote for this shitshow though.

And I’m being kind describing it as such.

Its a tawdry, deeply despicable government we have. The rest of us deserve better.

I’m sure you said you voted for Chris Green? Anyway, it doesn’t matter. Some people vote one way, some the other. It’s the same the world over. Nothing to get worked up about.

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

We've a strange version of democracy though. Generally most people don't get what they vote for.

The alternative is?

Just now, BobyBrno said:

I’m sure you said you voted for Chris Green? Anyway, it doesn’t matter. Some people vote one way, some the other. It’s the same the world over. Nothing to get worked up about.

First time around I did. Not the second.

 

6 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

We've a strange version of democracy though. Generally most people don't get what they vote for.

As an addendum, we did in the Referendum. (For those who could be bothered to vote)

I voted remain.

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4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The alternative is?

God knows.

PR maybe?

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The alternative is?

Possibly a zany idea, but maybe the people we elect could stop acting like bloated rodents.

Even Mounts -Mounts - has found this weeks episode of The Only Way is Tory to be uncomfortable and disturbing.

You know then that all is not well.

Just now, mickbrown said:

God knows.

PR maybe?

Germany still doesn’t have a Chancellor, despite their elections being in September and America has Joe Biden. Putin is there till he decides otherwise, the Czech’s have a coalition government that includes the Pirate party and ……… well, we still have the best democratic process in my opinion. 
 

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Germany still doesn’t have a Chancellor, despite their elections being in September and America has Joe Biden. Putin is there till he decides otherwise, the Czech’s have a coalition government that includes the Pirate party and ……… well, we still have the best democratic process in my opinion. 
 

We do

and that’s why yesterday was such a fucking disgrace. Abusing a system that they have been elected to defend and represent.

it shows their true colours. They’re giving decent Tories a bad name.

Just now, Spider said:

We do

and that’s why yesterday was such a fucking disgrace. Abusing a system that they have been elected to defend and represent.

it shows their true colours. They’re giving decent Tories a bad name.

It was wrong, I agree. The fact that they’ve backtracked is why our system works. They got it wrong and they are making amends, hopefully. How many political systems in the world could say the same?  

2 hours ago, Marc505 said:

Actually...

 

I rest my case

13 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Germany still doesn’t have a Chancellor, despite their elections being in September and America has Joe Biden. Putin is there till he decides otherwise, the Czech’s have a coalition government that includes the Pirate party and ……… well, we still have the best democratic process in my opinion. 

And it is being gradually dismantled before our very eyes. Yesterday was just a more blatant example than most, hence the massive U-turn.

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It was wrong, I agree. The fact that they’ve backtracked is why our system works. They got it wrong and they are making amends, hopefully. How many political systems in the world could say the same?  

They’d have gotten away with it but for those meddling voters kicking up a stink too

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Old Creepy Joe doesn’t seem to be doing as well as people had hoped. One of his main campaign pledges was to get a grip of covid….he isn’t doing to well with that. 

It would seem that the Republicans are willing to die to own the libs.

They dont want to take the vaccine but are quite willing to listen to Bob the builder on facebook when he tells them hes found a cure , just to own the libs

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7 minutes ago, Spider said:

They’d have gotten away with it but for those meddling voters kicking up a stink too

I don’t think it was the voters, we weren’t involved, I don’t think it was the press, they always give them stick. I honestly believe it was the Tories themselves who changed it. The dissent was there before the vote.  Many Tories voted against their better judgement.

Itll all be forgotten in a week. Just like the petrol crisis and the French (remember them)

Thats politics.