BobyBrno Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Spider said: They’d have gotten away with it but for those meddling voters kicking up a stink too I don’t think it was the voters, we weren’t involved, I don’t think it was the press, they always give them stick. I honestly believe it was the Tories themselves who changed it. The dissent was there before the vote. Many Tories voted against their better judgement. Itll all be forgotten in a week. Just like the petrol crisis and the French (remember them) Thats politics. Quote
royal white Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: It would seem that the Republicans are willing to die to own the libs. They dont want to take the vaccine but are quite willing to listen to Bob the builder on facebook when he tells them hes found a cure , just to own the libs Like all countries there’s fuckwits on both sides who won’t take the vaccine. Surely It’s up to JB to put other measures in place then if he wants to keep to his pledge. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 3 hours ago, tyldesley_white said: A lot of the time the speech is because he has a stutter ( but hides it very well), he starts a word then suddenly changes it to another thats why he some time comes across as forgetfully when hes not I can understand him having to be measured etc if it helps with his stutter, just seems very quiet and mumbling/slurring, almost a bit pissed even. Shame really, as it won't help his cause, irrespective of his abilities. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Spider said: I didn’t vote for this shitshow though. And I’m being kind describing it as such. Its a tawdry, deeply despicable government we have. The rest of us deserve better. That's only your opinion though. No one said it would be sorted overnight, indeed many of us said there would be plenty of bumps before the road got easier. All things considered, the eu's behaviour in recent times has confirmed the positive move to leave. Biden, and his democratic predecessor have bitched about it, yet we're still doing rather well. Quote
Spider Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: I don’t think it was the voters, we weren’t involved, I don’t think it was the press, they always give them stick. I honestly believe it was the Tories themselves who changed it. The dissent was there before the vote. Many Tories voted against their better judgement. Itll all be forgotten in a week. Just like the petrol crisis and the French (remember them) Thats politics. NEXT WEEK ON “I’M A TORY….GET ME OUT OF HERE!!” Episode 429: Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg (played by Isambard Kingdom Brunel) calls a motion to have poor people bulldozed into the nations rivers, canals and marshlands. Encouraged by Tory Leader Johnson (played by Matt Lucas dressed as Worzul Gummidge), the motion is passed after a commons vote where MP’s are whipped - literally - around the streets of Westminster by Priti Patel (played by Purple Aki) and threatened with a reduction in expenses to under £500,000 per month. The whole tasteless episode is brought to a conclusion when a relatively anonymous backbencher (played by Morrisey) is hung by his ankles from Nelson column and made to write the word ‘sorry’ on Trafalgar Square using his disembowelled colon. Rishi Sunak (played by Pob) dances around the entrails setting fire to pallets full of £50 notes. Everyone says sorry, winks at the camera and pretends history is something you can simply rewrite to suit. Quote
tyldesley_white Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, royal white said: Like all countries there’s fuckwits on both sides who won’t take the vaccine. Surely It’s up to JB to put other measures in place then if he wants to keep to his pledge. Hes brought in various mandates, and in virtual every republican state he's being fought tooth and nail to stop them, they seem quite happy to let there own supports die. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 42 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: I don’t think it was the voters, we weren’t involved, I don’t think it was the press, they always give them stick. I honestly believe it was the Tories themselves who changed it. The dissent was there before the vote. Many Tories voted against their better judgement. Itll all be forgotten in a week01744775876. Just like the petrol crisis and the French (remember them) Thats politics. First paragraph bang on. This move may well have stuffed up the cbances of re election of some of the new mps from the red wall. Without doubt many of these, together with more experienced mps have made it blatantly clear that yesterday's move was a fuck up. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 Just now, tyldesley_white said: Hes brought in various mandates, and in virtual every republican state he's being fought tooth and nail to stop them, they seem quite happy to let there own supports die. I find aspects of the American system bizarre: this being an ideal example. Quote
Spider Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: First paragraph bang on. This move may well have stuffed up the cbances of re election of some of the new mps from the red wall. Without doubt many of these, together with more experienced mps have made it blatantly clear that yesterday's move was a fuck up. Bolty says it was great. And he’s virtually inner circle. Quote
BobyBrno Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Spider said: NEXT WEEK ON “I’M A TORY….GET ME OUT OF HERE!!” Episode 429: Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg (played by Isambard Kingdom Brunel) calls a motion to have poor people bulldozed into the nations rivers, canals and marshlands. Encouraged by Tory Leader Johnson (played by Matt Lucas dressed as Worzul Gummidge), the motion is passed after a commons vote where MP’s are whipped - literally - around the streets of Westminster by Priti Patel (played by Purple Aki) and threatened with a reduction in expenses to under £500,000 per month. The whole tasteless episode is brought to a conclusion when a relatively anonymous backbencher (played by Morrisey) is hung by his ankles from Nelson column and made to write the word ‘sorry’ on Trafalgar Square using his disembowelled colon. Rishi Sunak (played by Pob) dances around the entrails setting fire to pallets full of £50 notes. Everyone says sorry, winks at the camera and pretends history is something you can simply rewrite to suit. 👍 Quote
BobyBrno Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Hes brought in various mandates, and in virtual every republican state he's being fought tooth and nail to stop them, they seem quite happy to let there own supports die. I read something the other day online in the New York Times that his popularity ‘was in the gutter.’ This paper I thought, was a very pro Biden publication. Is this true? Quote
London Wanderer Posted November 4, 2021 Posted November 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Spider said: NEXT WEEK ON “I’M A TORY….GET ME OUT OF HERE!!” Episode 429: Leader of the House Jacob Rees-Mogg (played by Isambard Kingdom Brunel) calls a motion to have poor people bulldozed into the nations rivers, canals and marshlands. Encouraged by Tory Leader Johnson (played by Matt Lucas dressed as Worzul Gummidge), the motion is passed after a commons vote where MP’s are whipped - literally - around the streets of Westminster by Priti Patel (played by Purple Aki) and threatened with a reduction in expenses to under £500,000 per month. The whole tasteless episode is brought to a conclusion when a relatively anonymous backbencher (played by Morrisey) is hung by his ankles from Nelson column and made to write the word ‘sorry’ on Trafalgar Square using his disembowelled colon. Rishi Sunak (played by Pob) dances around the entrails setting fire to pallets full of £50 notes. Everyone says sorry, winks at the camera and pretends history is something you can simply rewrite to suit. Frankie Boylesque Quote
Spider Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Just getting on with business, the old timer https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1456614916425670665?s=20 Quote
Rudy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Spider said: Just getting on with business, the old timer https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1456614916425670665?s=20 It would be less than 1% with Trump. They’d be building the wall. Quote
mickbrown Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 20 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I can understand him having to be measured etc if it helps with his stutter, just seems very quiet and mumbling/slurring, almost a bit pissed even. Shame really, as it won't help his cause, irrespective of his abilities. Nothing will ever top Trump misreading his autocue and just going with it anyway. Remember the yanks taking the airport's during the revolution? Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 20 hours ago, BobyBrno said: I read something the other day online in the New York Times that his popularity ‘was in the gutter.’ This paper I thought, was a very pro Biden publication. Is this true? Not particularly. It endorsed him for President over Trump, as could be expected, but it aspires to be a newspaper of record and therefore neutral. In reality it has a strong liberal bias; the majority of its writers and readership would be to the left of Biden on the political spectrum, some by quite a margin. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, mickbrown said: Nothing will ever top Trump misreading his autocue and just going with it anyway. Remember the yanks taking the airport's during the revolution? Thing is Mick, Trump is a bit numb at times. Stood his ground well with the Chinese, like a brash salesman, but that apart seemed out of his depth. With Biden I don't see that at all. I may or may not agree with all his politics, but he clearly is more of a statesman etc, but his speech is problematic. He may not be able to do anything about it, but it doesn't help him. Quote
Cheese Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV. Edited November 6, 2021 by Cheese Quote
Escobarp Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 17 hours ago, Spider said: Just getting on with business, the old timer https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1456614916425670665?s=20 Positive stat yes? But not when same stat looked at over same period in the uk, according to “some”. Strange that , isn’t it. Quote
tyldesley_white Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 On 05/11/2021 at 08:41, Spider said: Just getting on with business, the old timer https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1456614916425670665?s=20 Also got the infrastructure deal passed too The big issue we have here and it also showing in the UK is the amount of jobs that are available but no will take them. here it would seem that a lot of woman due to covid lost there jobs, and it would also seem that these family's have decided that its not worth her going back to work to pay childcare, parking and all other costs associated with working, they are just going to stay at home. Plus some of the wage are shocking. A guy in Florida who saw all these people bitching on facebook that they couldn't get staff and how lazy people were, decided to apply for a job at the places, I think he applied for 60 of which only one offered him a job and at the massive rate of $ 2.86 an hour and that is not a typo, so you can see why a lot of people over here have fucked the job market off Quote
Duck Egg Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, tyldesley_white said: Also got the infrastructure deal passed too The big issue we have here and it also showing in the UK is the amount of jobs that are available but no will take them. here it would seem that a lot of woman due to covid lost there jobs, and it would also seem that these family's have decided that its not worth her going back to work to pay childcare, parking and all other costs associated with working, they are just going to stay at home. Plus some of the wage are shocking. A guy in Florida who saw all these people bitching on facebook that they couldn't get staff and how lazy people were, decided to apply for a job at the places, I think he applied for 60 of which only one offered him a job and at the massive rate of $ 2.86 an hour and that is not a typo, so you can see why a lot of people over here have fucked the job market off Blimey. What's the minimum wage in the US? 2.86 is appallingly low. Quote
Spider Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 2 hours ago, tyldesley_white said: Also got the infrastructure deal passed too The big issue we have here and it also showing in the UK is the amount of jobs that are available but no will take them. here it would seem that a lot of woman due to covid lost there jobs, and it would also seem that these family's have decided that its not worth her going back to work to pay childcare, parking and all other costs associated with working, they are just going to stay at home. Plus some of the wage are shocking. A guy in Florida who saw all these people bitching on facebook that they couldn't get staff and how lazy people were, decided to apply for a job at the places, I think he applied for 60 of which only one offered him a job and at the massive rate of $ 2.86 an hour and that is not a typo, so you can see why a lot of people over here have fucked the job market off Loads of jobs in the UK are at what you’d call the lower end. It doesn’t actually fit in with the vision of Levelling up which is just another political piece of bumcheese (whoever would have said it). Top level economies need care workers, cleaners, baristas, Subway butty makers, garage forecourt workers and taxi drivers. All work is noble but let’s not pretend we’re suddenly Monaco and everyone can be a millionaire. Americans actually seem to accept that you work you’re way up from fuck all, whereas we have a rather entitled, mollycoddled population who think they should be on £50 an hour from the get go. A more realistic vision should be set out. Quote
kent_white Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 I think there's merit in exploring this 'universal income' idea..... Quote
tyldesley_white Posted November 6, 2021 Posted November 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Blimey. What's the minimum wage in the US? 2.86 is appallingly low. The federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Though tipped workers and some farm and seasonal workers are paid less in many states. Quote
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