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You are biologically programmed to find woman attractive (if that's your preference) you are not biologically programmed to objectify them (or anyone) and women are also biologically programmed to find men attractive (again, if that's their preference) No one is biologically programmed to objectify them (or anyone) Objectification is about control, and only judging someone based on physical appeal. Its a battle most women face throughout their lives. From a woof whistle, to a quick checking out look on the tube. As for women choosing not to look at porn or even make it? Erm, I'd have a chat to your wife.

 

As for 'denying heterosexual desires' has yours ever been? And yes, you can say the say about homosexuals if you so choose. However, in both cases, you'd be wrong.  

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Equality doesn't work like that I'm afraid Madhatter. 

 

Man aren't subjected to objectification throughout their whole lives (even me, and I'm fit as fuck), you wouldn't be addressing any gender imbalance with a simplistic drill down to the bottom (pun not intended) 

 

Women do objectify men. I think you've been spending too much time with the velvet tippers 

You are biologically programmed to find woman attractive (if that's your preference) you are not biologically programmed to objectify them (or anyone) and women are also biologically programmed to find men attractive (again, if that's their preference) No one is biologically programmed to objectify them (or anyone) Objectification is about control, and only judging someone based on physical appeal. Its a battle most women face throughout their lives. From a woof whistle, to a quick checking out look on the tube. As for women choosing not to look at porn or even make it? Erm, I'd have a chat to your wife.

 

As for 'denying heterosexual desires' has yours ever been? And yes, you can say the say about homosexuals if you so choose. However, in both cases, you'd be wrong.  

 

To be honest i get all that and agree with it. But I refuse to accept that women do not not objectify men. This retirement larky means I get to see more morning TV than I should do. That Lorraine programme always has some bloke with a six pack in y fronts strutting his stuff and being admired by 3 or 4 women. They recently ran a competition for the next male underwear model. Now if the roles were reversed and it was three blokes leering at women in bikinis I bet there would be thousands of complaints,

You are biologically programmed to find woman attractive (if that's your preference) you are not biologically programmed to objectify them (or anyone) and women are also biologically programmed to find men attractive (again, if that's their preference) No one is biologically programmed to objectify them (or anyone) Objectification is about control, and only judging someone based on physical appeal. Its a battle most women face throughout their lives. From a woof whistle, to a quick checking out look on the tube. As for women choosing not to look at porn or even make it? Erm, I'd have a chat to your wife.

 

As for 'denying heterosexual desires' has yours ever been? And yes, you can say the say about homosexuals if you so choose. However, in both cases, you'd be wrong.  

 

I didn't say women never make or watch but in the main it's a male 'pass-time', I think you'd agree.  It's also usually women that complain about it.

 

As for my mrs - leave her out of it  

 

I'd say attraction and objectification go hand in hand, personally.  To greater or lesser degrees dependent on the person.  

 

Is me appraising a women's arse objectifying or finding attractive?  Either way I've been able to spot a nice arse from 50 metres away in a busy city since I was about 16.  Sometimes a sort of spider sense kicks in and I'll turn round almost knowing I'm gonna see a hotty . . .  that to me suggests it's my programming.  I don't choose to find arses sexy!?

 

Yes women are judged on their looks more than men, unfairly in many instances, but women do that just as much as men - to other women usually.  Why is that?  

 

re. the last bit.  Aye, every time a lass has refused to shake hands with the Eiffel tower  

Don't underestimate what goes through a woman's head or what gets spoke about within their circles.

 

There's some filthy fuckers within their ranks, they just don't band it about like men do.

 

I catch our peg eyeing up todge all the time.

 

Women love winky.

Don't underestimate what goes through a woman's head or what gets spoke about within their circles.

 

There's some filthy fuckers within their ranks, they just don't band it about like men do.

 

I catch our peg eyeing up todge all the time

 

Women love winky.

 

Aye, as Hollywood get a lot of stick for promoting women in a negative light here's one:

 

Would Brad Pitt be as  successful if he looked like 'Tubby Joe' the bus driver or Fat Frank?  Again, why is that?  

 

Humans judge others.  Fact.  We do it in all sorts of ways.  I'd say it boils down to us being a pack animal and always appraising competition and potential mates.

 

I'd agree this gets manipulated to make £££.  We let it though . . .

Edited March 9, 20179 yr by madthatter

 

Humans judge others.  Fact.  We do it in all sorts of ways.  I'd say it boils down to us being a pack animal and always appraising competition and potential mates.

 

 

 

You have a very valid point. We want the best type to mate with. We still have animal instincts, I'm not sure it's a bad thing either.

Simon Fudge-packer

You have a very valid point. We want the best type to mate with. We still have animal instincts, I'm not sure it's a bad thing either.

 

Quite the opposite, it's a prerequisite for the survival and propagation of our species.   However, a bit of a pisser, no doubt, if you're deemed a munter.

 

Someone for everyone though

 

We don't think "Aww poor stag" or "poor bird of paradise" when they lose a rut or the female bird thinks his dance was a pile of shit.  Neither do we think "The nasty, sexist, judgy bitch . . . "

Edited March 9, 20179 yr by madthatter

There's still tits in The Star, I opened one on the rack whilst waiting for a mate in a services t'other day...I stood for quite some time looking at the photo and thinking over the situation vis a vis exploitation etc. To the untrained eye it probably looked like I was just leering at a 20 year old's breasts...(I was also considering opinion on 'real or fake', but purely from a medical viewpoint).

Do both sides of this 'objectification' argument use too broad a brush?

 

Plenty of women do not like to be leered at and feel uncomfortable with it but don't try to tell me they all feel like that all of the time.

 

There's plenty who like to have the blokes drooling over them from time to time. Those that don't need only to wear no make up, have a short back and sides and dress like Germaine Greer and I guarantee you they will hardly be noticed by the opposite sex.

Amount of times I've whisked away a girl for an all expenses paid jolly abroad - countless.

 

Amount of times I've been whisked away for an all expenses paid jolly abroad - zero.

 

Until this financial exploitation of men ceases I will continue my objectifying counter-protest of (surreptitiously) looking at legs, tits and bums.

 I'm not sure what some people think sexual equality should look like. 

 

they should get the first round in once in a while

 

everything else is by the by

Do both sides of this 'objectification' argument use too broad a brush?

 

Plenty of women do not like to be leered at and feel uncomfortable with it but don't try to tell me they all feel like that all of the time.

 

There's plenty who like to have the blokes drooling over them from time to time. Those that don't need only to wear no make up, have a short back and sides and dress like Germaine Greer and I guarantee you they will hardly be noticed by the opposite sex.

 

Indeed. Women who don't like being objectified should cover up more and make their bodies invisible, in order to take away the temptation from men who are unable to control their desires. The more covered up the better. Maybe a full length black sheet, revealing only the eyes.

Edited March 9, 20179 yr by Cheese

I was once cutting the grass at the back of mere hall. I glanced up to see two lesbians going hard at it a little way in front.

 

Fuck me, (well they didn't) I nearly wrapped £20000 of john Deere round a sodding tree.

It was ace and shocking in equal measure.

Strangely both were quite attractive which was a bonus.

I definitely objectified for a few seconds.

 

Both sexes oggle at others and nowt wrong as long as behaviour towards each other is proper.

Plenty of fellas have and will go too far, but its not as if a woman has never utilised her 'qualities' for personal advancement, even a little bit.

Once worked on a housewives shift and by the fuck it was an education!

 

Not sure we really can achieve a society totally free from such behaviour; just be there to ensure cunts going over the top are dealt with.

Open wanking = no. Pocket wanking = get the scissors out (to cut out ones pockets)?

they should get the first round in once in a while

 

everything else is by the by

 

 

 

Not sure we really can achieve a society totally free from such behaviour; just be there to ensure cunts going over the top are dealt with.

 

Indeed.  Snoop had it reet a few posts back

Don't underestimate what goes through a woman's head or what gets spoke about within their circles.

 

There's some filthy fuckers within their ranks, they just don't band it about like men do.

 

I catch our peg eyeing up todge all the time.

 

Women love winky.

 

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Do both sides of this 'objectification' argument use too broad a brush?

 

Plenty of women do not like to be leered at and feel uncomfortable with it but don't try to tell me they all feel like that all of the time.

 

There's plenty who like to have the blokes drooling over them from time to time. Those that don't need only to wear no make up, have a short back and sides and dress like Germaine Greer and I guarantee you they will hardly be noticed by the opposite sex.

You're reet.

 

And plenty use this objectivisation to their advantage.

You're reet.

 

And plenty use this objectivisation to their advantage.

 

You mean they take advantage of thick cunts who can't help themselves, don't you?

You mean they take advantage of thick cunts who can't help themselves, don't you?

 

Works both ways?

Works both ways?

 

To a certain extent, but what about those who DON'T take advantage, yet are still treated the same way? (i.e the vast majority)