What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

It does, come on my good man. I know you like the one liner, but they have to make an actual point or raise an question that hasn't already been answered.

Unless you really don't understand, in which case, fair enough that's not your fault.

You seem incapable of ‘discussing’ with out getting personal. A bad trait.

49 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ll re-word it, I can’t see BJ struggling to get 100 against 2 weak opponents. Both who lost to Truss in the last PM vote (regardless of who was voting them) 

Here's a take on the previous selection: Rishi was always going to get through, but there was real fear that Mordaunt would also do, and would win.

Certain elements then tried to rubbish her, and at the same time actually voting for Truss to ensure Mordant didn't qualify for the last two.

Backfired though, as the membership weren't going to go for Sunak.

This time, Sunak will still have his backers, but if Boris decides not to bother (he has got a disciplinary hearing to come after all) then that could well suddenly land PM as the new PM.

Time will tell.

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

And nor should they. 

If Labour do get in. It’ll be the first thing they mention. You can copy this for future reference.

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

It does, come on my good man. I know you like the one liner, but they have to make an actual point or raise an question that hasn't already been answered.

Unless you really don't understand, in which case, fair enough that's not your fault.

You didn’t, you just threw a little hissy fit about BJ. 

Just now, royal white said:

You didn’t, you just threw a little hissy fit about BJ. 

Then there really is no point chatting about it then. 

But good on you for trying.

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

You seem incapable of ‘discussing’ with out getting personal. A bad trait.

Ad hominem this, ad hominem that.

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

If Labour do get in. It’ll be the first thing they mention. You can copy this for future reference.

Possibly, but they shouldn't do now.

It's politics, not a university lecture hall.

16 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

IYou asked me before, did I think Johnson should go. I said yes but not now. That was earlier this year. Someone responded by saying anyone would be better than him. I said be careful what you wish for. The rest is history. The same applies to Labour. 
 

I was asking Swanny

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Ad hominem this, ad hominem that.

It’s a trait of the left. It’s all Labour have. 

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

Possibly, but they shouldn't do now.

It's politics, not a university lecture hall.

Yeh. Fuck the facts. 

Just now, BobyBrno said:

Yeh. Fuck the facts. 

Is that Conservative manifesto?

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Insert global economic crisis into that and I can’t disagree with it. Labour seem unable to mention the word global economic crisis in any of their rhetoric.

As frustrating as that maybe, they're never going to do that. 

It's been the Tory cost of living crisis etc etc for many months: chuck enough muck and it will stick, especially if your opponent has already partially shat themselves!

Looking at the world picture- Al Jazeera again- there are demonstrations/public unrest in South America, Europe, Asia, Africa and even reports of a protest in China (albeit perhaps on slightly different issues).

It's actually almost perfect for Labour now- keep shouting for an election, in the knowledge that one isn't forthcoming (at least not just yet), and should one then come along they've got a grace period if things don't improve rapidly, which they won't whilst Putin is still going at it.

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

It’s a trait of the left. It’s all Labour have. 

Yeah, everyone of the centre left.

Play the point not the man, Boby, come on.

3 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I was asking Swanny

I know. It’s an open forum. 🤷‍♂️

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Is that Conservative manifesto?

We ain’t seen the Labour one yet so how anyone can say they will a better alternative is a mystery.

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

We ain’t seen the Labour one yet so how anyone can say they will a better alternative is a mystery.

That's very true we haven't.

Nor have we seen the Conservatives.

As its two years to an election.

Edited October 21, 20223 yr by Not in Crawley

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

We ain’t seen the Labour one yet so how anyone can say they will a better alternative is a mystery.

Doesn’t cheeses 13 year old video count? 

I don't accept that we're all one side or the other on here.

I'd say the balance is decent.

Generally, it's opinions based on facts. 

Today, white63 has added his distinctive weight to things by openly admitting the facts are irrelevant. He is, alas, part of a large number of people who vote based on nothing but 5 word headlines and "gut feelings" that are nothing more than a desire to win and grab the opportunity to gloat in the face of the 'losers'. Football mentality but nothing deeper or learned.

Aside from him and Bolty, I'd say the rest of us are at least capable of independent thought and (occasionally) reasoned debate.

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

We ain’t seen the Labour one yet so how anyone can say they will a better alternative is a mystery.

If you want an idea - the open policy forum which ended in the summer's findings are coming out soon.

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I know. It’s an open forum. 🤷‍♂️

Ok. So you now think Johnson shouldn't have gone?

With football it makes sense.

I fucking hate Liverpool FC. Nothing they do will ever endear me to them. My mind is made up but the reality is that it's a bit of fun and has no impact on real life, nor does it involve choosing people who influence society.

white63 and Bolty cannot see politics beyond this model. 

Such is democracy. Which they don't like or necessarily want, by the way.

Edited October 21, 20223 yr by Spider

1 minute ago, Spider said:

I don't accept that we're all one side or the other on here.

I'd say the balance is decent.

Generally, it's opinions based on facts. 

Today, white63 has added his distinctive weight to things by openly admitting the facts are irrelevant. He is, alas, part of a large number of people who vote based on nothing but 5 word headlines and "gut feelings" that are nothing more than a desire to win and grab the opportunity to gloat in the face of the 'losers'. Football mentality but nothing deeper or learned.

Aside from him and Bolty, I'd say the rest of us are at least capable of independent thought and (occasionally) reasoned debate.

At the moment I've rejoined the Labour party because I hate what the Conservatives have done over the last 12 years and the Corbynites have been sidelined.

So at this moment I'm certainly on one side as I want to see this morally defunct party out of government, so I am partisan currently.

I have voted tory, lib dem and even WEP at times depending on what I think of the current state of the political situation.

19 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Insert global economic crisis into that and I can’t disagree with it. Labour seem unable to mention the word global economic crisis in any of their rhetoric.

Putins illegal war in the ukraine

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

At the moment I've rejoined the Labour party because I hate what the Conservatives have done over the last 12 years and the Corbynites have been sidelined.

So at this moment I'm certainly on one side as I want to see this morally defunct party out of government, so I am partisan currently.

I have voted tory, lib dem and even WEP at times depending on what I think of the current state of the political situation.

Exactly

white63 and Bolty wouldn't vote labour even if the tories had set fire to their houses and done a big curly shit in their hats.

 

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Ok. So you now think Johnson shouldn't have gone?

No. I said at the time. I also said he should go before the end of his  term. 
Without repeating myself, what we needed then and even more so now was stability.