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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Posting facts and figures means you approve of illegal immigration and support Muslim grooming gangs, apparently.

There are genuine concerns about the boat crossings and some of the people arriving illegally. It needs stopping and we need a controlled system where we know who's coming in and the skills they bring. This would even allow us better help those in genuine need.  

Some of the stuff Farny is coming out with about foreigners being pushed to the top of council housing, and scrapping human rights, just screams of someone who's lapped up a load of shite they've read on twitter or in the gutter press. 

Sadly it's idiots like Lee Anderson who pedal this shite and more and more folk are falling for it. 

Some people are right to be concerned and they shouldn't be labelled racist or thickos for voicing it. Some people are just using it to marginalise and tar every person who comes here with the same brush. 

I don't know the answers. Other than voting Reform won't make it any better 🙂

 

3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

There are genuine concerns about the boat crossings and some of the people arriving illegally. It needs stopping and we need a controlled system where we know who's coming in and the skills they bring. This would even allow us better help those in genuine need.  

Some of the stuff Farny is coming out with about foreigners being pushed to the top of council housing, and scrapping human rights, just screams of someone who's lapped up a load of shite they've read on twitter or in the gutter press. 

Sadly it's idiots like Lee Anderson who pedal this shite and more and more folk are falling for it. 

Some people are right to be concerned and they shouldn't be labelled racist or thickos for voicing it. Some people are just using it to marginalise and tar every person who comes here with the same brush. 

I don't know the answers. Other than voting Reform won't make it any better 🙂

 

Yeah, I know all that, but Gonzo said if you post facts and figures, it means you support illegal immigrants and Muslim grooming gangs. I don't make the rules. 🤷‍♂️

13 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Yeah, I know all that, but Gonzo said if you post facts and figures, it means you support illegal immigrants and Muslim grooming gangs. I don't make the rules. 🤷‍♂️

Where did he say that? 

I work in town centre a couple of days a week now. I'd say a good 75% of people walking through the town centre are none white. 

I think a lot of them are international students. My ex works at the uni and she says there are very few white British people there any longer. We still live together and sometimes I hear her in the phone taking to applicants. A large majority of the time it's a 'brother' or other family member ringing in behalf of the student - largely because they struggle to speak English. 

Like I said - I passed my tipping point a good few months back. We've got to get a handle on this. 

5 hours ago, mickbrown said:

Gunboats. Innit

Worked for Oz and will work for the UK too.

7 hours ago, Cheese said:

Yeah, I know all that, but Gonzo said if you post facts and figures, it means you support illegal immigrants and Muslim grooming gangs. I don't make the rules. 🤷‍♂️

Show me where I said that?

Love it when you're on the ropes, you just start making things up.

Worked you out a long time ago.

You're that blinded with wanting an argument you can't actually see what's being written. You just blurt random insinuations with no backdrop or context.

You take one comment, spin it and rehash it in the actual most litteral possible sense. Then just roll with it as if it's actually what has been said.

Quite embarrassing really.

Take a look some posters comments on here all will differing views. That's how normal people talk to eachother.

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6 hours ago, kent_white said:

I work in town centre a couple of days a week now. I'd say a good 75% of people walking through the town centre are none white. 

I think a lot of them are international students. My ex works at the uni and she says there are very few white British people there any longer. We still live together and sometimes I hear her in the phone taking to applicants. A large majority of the time it's a 'brother' or other family member ringing in behalf of the student - largely because they struggle to speak English. 

Like I said - I passed my tipping point a good few months back. We've got to get a handle on this. 

That's an absolute sitting duck for old Cheesey boy.

What's wrong with brown people?

What's wrong with foreigners?

How does it affect your life?

What are you doing about it?

Thicko 

Racist

 

 

 

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Worked for Oz and will work for the UK too.

Guessing the immigrant boats weren’t inflatables with scale of journey. The argument here is how do you engage without sinking?

8 hours ago, Ani said:

Man turns up in UK applies for asylum, is rejected . Will not disclose which country he came from. What happens next ? 

Well then he cannot apply for asylum, since he cannot prove he’s from a country that is forcing him to leave.

Detention or prison. He certainly can’t be given any benefits or allowed to walk the streets.

9 hours ago, Spider said:

 

it needs sorting, but I will say the gangs are clearly the problem so Starmer has the right idea but he needs help from the EU mob. At least he’s fucking trying.

He has the right idea but hasn’t a clue how to achieve it. He has the right idea about the economy, he wants it to grow but he doesn’t have a clue how to achieve it. 

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2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

He has the right idea but hasn’t a clue how to achieve it. He has the right idea about the economy, he wants it to grow but he doesn’t have a clue how to achieve it. 

Should he just give up and spend the next few years fathering children and breaking his own rules instead? Seemed to work for the last bloke.

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

So a load of invaders who crossed the sea draped in orange, have now set fire to a boat load of invaders crossing the sea draped in orange?

The irony of this is fucking staggering.

  

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Show me where I said that?

Love it when you're on the ropes, you just start making things up.

Worked you out a long time ago.

You're that blinded with wanting an argument you can't actually see what's being written. You just blurt random insinuations with no backdrop or context.

You take one comment, spin it and rehash it in the actual most litteral possible sense. Then just roll with it as if it's actually what has been said.

Quite embarrassing really.

Take a look some posters comments on here all will differing views. That's how normal people talk to eachother.

 

14 hours ago, gonzo said:

I'd say the only reason you'd bring in facts and figures about other paedophile cases, especially in this discussion, is it suggest the Muslim grooming scandal isn't as big as made out.

You hear it time and time again during these discussions. 

It's like talking about Barry Bennal and what a disgrace it was that people knew and it was allowed to manifest but then someone says yeah but it's just one bloke in a vast network of coaches.

Who gives a fuck. We are talking this particular regardless of how many other cases involving certain demographics.

The only reason people say yeah but what about and bring up the Catholic Church or any other problem areas is try and take the spotlight away from this particular issue. 

That's downplaying it.

Yon lad yesterday played down the fact the bloke was working in Rochdale and could come in to contact with victims. 

It's quite feasible and even if the chance was minute, shouldn't be allowed to happen.

His comments 100% were trying to downplay that situation.

In a range of posts he made some serious whataboutery by bringing up the wider world of child abuse and also downplayed the fact that this guy was allowed to live and work in an area where he'd abused and lead the abuse of countless young girls.

Go back and read his posts.

 

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23 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Not a single dingy has landed on the shores of Northern Ireland. 

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Not a single dingy has landed on the shores of Northern Ireland. 

The last boat load of orange clad invaders that did, are still there.

 

19 minutes ago, Cheese said:

  

 

🤷‍♂️

Where do I say that if you post facts and figures that you agree with Grooming or illegal migrants?

Again you've just made that up in your puddled contrary mind.

The reason Peelyfeet bought those figures up was to diminish the problem or try and sway the opinion thats child sex abuse is not an isolated Muslim problem.

That's usually the only reason anyone ever does this regarding that subject. Thats despite a massive damming inquiry thats just taken place that highlights that insolation it's a massive problem and simply shoving it under the umbrella of one big problem is clearly not the way to tackle it. 

It's like talking about gun crime in London then saying yeah but what about knife crime in Liverpool.

Although crime is crime thats not how the pissing world works.

Hence what has happened over the last few decades.

Hence a big fuck off inquiry.

Each problematic area should be dealt with accordingly.

You know what Peely was doing. 

You do know each conversation is different and each debate varies?

That's how normal life works.

London White clearly doesn't agree with Boat folk landing on these shores and was posting figures to show the huge crisis that engulfs that particular issue. To me he wasn't downplaying the boat problem. Just adding to the discussion.

I have categorically never stated that if you bring facts and figures into a discussion that you agree with Muslim grooming gangs and illegal migration.

You actually need help.

 

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1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Where do I say that if you post facts and figures that you agree with Grooming or illegal migrants?

Again you've just made that up in your puddled contrary mind.

The reason Peelyfeet bought those figures up was to diminish the problem or try and sway the opinion thats child sex abuse is not an isolated Muslim problem.

That's the only reason anyone ever does this regarding that subject. Thats despite a massive damming inquiry thats just taken place that highlights that insolation it's a massive problem and simply shoving it under the umbrella of one big problem is clearly not the way to tackle it. 

Hence what has happened over the last few decades.

Each problematic area should be dealt with accordingly.

You know what Peely was doing. 

You do know each conversation is different and each debate varies?

That's how normal life works.

London White clearly doesn't agree with Boat folk landing on these shores and was posting figures to show the huge crisis that engulfs that particular issue. To me he wasn't downplaying the boat problem. Just adding to the discussion.

I have categorically never stated that if you bring facts and figures into a discussion that you agree with Muslim grooming gangs and illegal migration.

You actually need help.

 

You seem very angry. I advise you to go to The Reform Pub for a few pints so you can have a rant with like-minded folk. You don't handle disagreement very well.

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You seem very angry. I advise you to go to The Reform Pub for a few pints so you can have a rant with like-minded folk. You don't handle disagreement very well.

Angry?

Not at all.

In the past 24 hours you've said I don't care about the victims of child abuse, I only care about the colour of the perpetrators skin.

You've completely lied and made up something that I clearly didn't say.

Am I wrong to call that out?

Again, people on here disagree on stuff all time. 

What they don't do is make things up, cast ridiculous aspersions and insinuations and back themselves in to a corner.

I know what you are. It's as clear as day.

 

20 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Angry?

Not at all.

In the past 24 hours you've said I don't care about the victims of child abuse, I only care about the colour of the perpetrators skin.

You've completely lied and made up something that I clearly didn't say.

Am I wrong to call that out?

Again, people on here disagree on stuff all time. 

What they don't do is make things up, cast ridiculous aspersions and insinuations and back themselves in to a corner.

I know what you are. It's as clear as day.

And you say I'm the one that takes things too literally? 😁 Chill out snowflake.

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31 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Not a single dingy has landed on the shores of Northern Ireland. 

Proper muppets aren't they. NI has been the forefront of attacks on immigrants & their businesses in recent times. Families that have been here for years have literally been driven out of their homes.

Wouldn't it be lovely to deport some of the scumbags that did it on a dingy across the channel. At least if we're scrapping all the human rights acts then we'll be allowed to do it. Silver linings and all that.

There were a few posters on here up in arms and calling for Bob Vylan to lose his licence when he chanted 'Death to the IDF'. I'm sure they will also be along at some point calling for the Moygashel Bonfire to lose it's licence 😄

 

9 minutes ago, Cheese said:

And you say I'm the one that take things too literally? 😁 Chill out snowflake.

Bender.

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Bender.

Homophobe.

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

That's an absolute sitting duck for old Cheesey boy.

What's wrong with brown people?

What's wrong with foreigners?

How does it affect your life?

What are you doing about it?

Thicko 

Racist

 

 

 

Bigger question is ‘what is it like living with your ex?’

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Well then he cannot apply for asylum, since he cannot prove he’s from a country that is forcing him to leave.

Detention or prison. He certainly can’t be given any benefits or allowed to walk the streets.

So the guy is mid 20s and we are going to detain him for the rest of his life ? Prisons are already full.

I am only asking btw I do not have an answer. It has been reported even by GB News that returns are up. https://www.gbnews.com/news/migrant-crisis-asylum-seekers-criminals-deported-labour
 

But still do not understand what happens if you are not sure where people come from. 

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