What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

9 hours ago, Zulu said:

Yes Spider. Politicians are all the same. I have pointed that out to you before, it must be said. 

They’re not.

15 hours ago, Spider said:

If you’ve got a few days spare, have a look at all the u turns every politician that ever existed has made 🙃

But…

…they’re not all the same?

You’re arguing with yourself now. Impressive. 

He’s up against the possible next Prime Minister. Any chance?

 

8 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

He’s up against the possible next Prime Minister. Any chance?

 

Probably yes. Because it will polarise the vote and Reform will throw everything at it. 

It would be a massive political coup if they can pull it off. 

Ex NHS worker, Army reservist, local working class lad. Lets see how long before his opponents finds something negative about him.

11 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Probably yes. Because it will polarise the vote and Reform will throw everything at it. 

It would be a massive political coup if they can pull it off. 

If I was a voter I'd be a bit pissed off that my vote was being taken as a given by Westminster

6 minutes ago, Dimron said:

If I was a voter I'd be a bit pissed off that my vote was being taken as a given by Westminster

How do you mean? 

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Probably yes. Because it will polarise the vote and Reform will throw everything at it. 

It would be a massive political coup if they can pull it off. 

Restore have gone from 30/1 in some places down to 4/1 

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Ex NHS worker, Army reservist, local working class lad. Let’s see how long before his opponents finds something negative about him.

A local plumber with very little political experience.

Worked for the greens 🙃
 

what was the feeling from reform supporters regarding Hannah Spencer? Just for balance, like.

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28 minutes ago, Spider said:

A local plumber with very little political experience.

Worked for the greens 🙃
 

what was the feeling from reform supporters regarding Hannah Spencer? Just for balance, like.

No idea. 🤷‍♂️

Just now, BobyBrno said:

No idea. 🤷‍♂️

I have.

They thought she was shit because she had very little political experience and was a plumber.

confusingly, this is now a brilliant criteria for a potential MP.

Mental innit 😊

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

How do you mean? 

The Labour Party elite creating a vacancy and assuming Burnham will just walk into the position because the hoi polloi electorate will just believe and do what they want them to... I'd tell them to eff off, cock and balls time for my voting slip or preferably a good independent

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

I have.

They thought she was shit because she had very little political experience and was a plumber.

confusingly, this is now a brilliant criteria for a potential MP.

Mental innit 😊

I'd join Reform have a go at being MP... looks like a little good number for a pensioner like me

Just now, Spider said:

I have.

They thought she was shit because she had very little political experience and was a plumber.

confusingly, this is now a brilliant criteria for a potential MP.

Mental innit 😊

In the circumstances, ie it’s a by-election so will have no affect on the balance of MP’s, I’d vote for the best person to select me regardless of party (that’s why I’ve voted for multiple parties) In this case, it’s not as simple. 
Burnham gets in and he’ll, probably, become Prime minister. If the Reform guy gets in, I can’t see anyone beating Starmer as he’s said he’s not going to resign. 
Vote Burnham - get rid of Starmer.

Vote Reform - keep Starmer. 
It’s going to be great watching this unfold. Great to see the adults showing how it’s done!😊😉

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

In the circumstances, ie it’s a by-election so will have no affect on the balance of MP’s, I’d vote for the best person to select me regardless of party (that’s why I’ve voted for multiple parties) In this case, it’s not as simple. 
Burnham gets in and he’ll, probably, become Prime minister. If the Reform guy gets in, I can’t see anyone beating Starmer as he’s said he’s not going to resign. 
Vote Burnham - get rid of Starmer.

Vote Reform - keep Starmer. 
It’s going to be great watching this unfold. Great to see the adults showing how it’s done!😊😉

Surprised you’re that enthusiastic about either outcome to be honest. I don’t recall you praising either of the adults involved 😉

 

Just now, Dimron said:

The Labour Party elite creating a vacancy and assuming Burnham will just walk into the position because the hoi polloi electorate will just believe and do what they want them to... I'd tell them to eff off, cock and balls time for my voting slip or preferably a good independent

I doubt there are many people who are thinking that arrogantly about it. Although I'm sure that's how Reform will try to spin it. 

The question will be more about to what extent the national labour party throw their weight behind him. 

I can't see there's much incentive for KS to mobilise the troops, if it means a Labour victory would mean he'd be immediately challenged for the leadership? He might be quietly hedging his bets and being willing to sacrifice one seat of his majority to remain as PM. 

And maybe that might even work in AB's favour - who knows? If he can convince people he's been hung out to dry because the Labour party are afraid he'll change them. 

Be interesting to see how all parties play this. But I don't think there's any doubt he's in for a tough ride. 

Be huge if Reform can effectively spoil the party. But equally - if AB can win the seat against a Reform party who have thrown everything at it - then that sets him up to be the 'saviour' of Labour and gives him a lot of momentum ahead of a potential leadership challenge. 

There's a lot riding on this and people's votes in this bi-election have suddenly become incredibly important. 

5 minutes ago, Spider said:

Surprised you’re that enthusiastic about either outcome to be honest. I don’t recall you praising either of the adults involved 😉

 

It’s very feasible that some Labour, Starmer supporters in Makerfield vote Reform. In France it’s callled  "mettre une épingle à linge sur le nez" putting a cloths peg on your nose to vote for a party you don’t like. I posted a cartoon during the GE to explain my voting. 

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It’s very feasible that some Labour, Starmer supporters in Makerfield vote Reform. In France it’s callled  "mettre une épingle à linge sur le nez" putting a cloths peg on your nose to vote for a party you don’t like. I posted a cartoon during the GE to explain my voting. 

It’s the adult thing to do

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Ex NHS worker, Army reservist, local working class lad. Lets see how long before his opponents finds something negative about him.

Just a quick reminder that none of those things necessarily preclude someone from being a cunt! 😁

That's not to say this guy is of course.

4 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Ex NHS worker, Army reservist, local working class lad. Lets see how long before his opponents finds something negative about him.

 

I don't think he'll win, I feel like Reform needed one of their big hitters for this

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2 hours ago, kent_white said:

I doubt there are many people who are thinking that arrogantly about it. Although I'm sure that's how Reform will try to spin it. 

The question will be more about to what extent the national labour party throw their weight behind him. 

 

The country can well do without this Westminster psycho-drama crap, there is far too much to do and it needs a stable government not these self serving set of c++ts. I actually hope Starmer sees them off and learns a lesson from all this.

We are facing a major winter energy/gas shortage, interest on government borrowing spiraling, unemployed youngsters, people still going to foodbanks and the NHS' new leader James Murray facing militant doctors with a wobbly ship... and all these unpatriotic twats can think about is their own petty interest. Burnham is not a man of the people, don't forget he retreated to Manchester because he was caught on the fiddle as an MP.

The London elite couldn't give a stuff about Makerfield and the north, it's sooo full of horrid northerners darling.

Time to massively cut back the influence of Westminster and those over-blown "Downing Street" offices with unelected Chiefs of Staff and the like... it's not the White House

6 minutes ago, jmjhb said:

 

So, less than an hour.😊

7 minutes ago, Dimron said:

The country can well do without this Westminster psycho-drama crap, there is far too much to do and it needs a stable government not these self serving set of c++ts. I actually hope Starmer sees them off and learns a lesson from all this.

We are facing a major winter energy/gas shortage, interest on government borrowing spiraling, unemployed youngsters, people still going to foodbanks and the NHS' new leader James Murray facing militant doctors with a wobbly ship... and all these unpatriotic twats can think about is their own petty interest. Burnham is not a man of the people, don't forget he retreated to Manchester because he was caught on the fiddle as an MP.

The London elite couldn't give a stuff about Makerfield and the north, it's sooo full of horrid northerners darling.

Time to massively cut back the influence of Westminster and those over-blown "Downing Street" offices with unelected Chiefs of Staff and the like... it's not the White House

The fiddle stuff must have passed me by. What was it that he did? 

5 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Ex NHS worker, Army reservist, local working class lad. Lets see how long before his opponents finds something negative about him.

How about him only registering his "business" in February and the fact he's a big fan of the fella that runs the reincarnation of the BUF?

Oh and the fact the last time he ran he tried to make out he was a full member of the armed forces, not a reservist.