Politics

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

From the article.

‘The Conservatives, who began the negotiations for the deal when in government, said it was "another major Brexit opportunity" which Labour risked "throwing away" because of what it saw as Labour's pro-EU stance.’

You've conveniently left out a lot other economic data. Unemployment, inflation, fuel prices, borrowing all up since they came into power.

Anyway, as we are 3 years away from a (scheduled) GE and with a huge majority, it does make you wonder why we are going through this pantomime. 

Unfortunately, inflation will very likelyshoot up again.

Once the fuel price increases and subsequent food costs come into the equation, the effect will be dramatic.

Not necessarily the direct fault of the government, but that doesn't count in politics.

The labour strapline previously was "Tory cost of living crisis". Wasn't their fault that Russia invaded of course, but that doesn't matter.

Say it enough, and it's gospel.

Hence why the opposition this time will also use it against them.

2.8% is still 0.8% higher than when they took office.

I'm not sure that some folk understand inflation, and that it is compared with the year previous.

Large increases in costs and prices when they came in raised the rate.

A year on, and the current rate is reflecting those price increases that already occurred. 

It would be quite difficult to maintain that level of inflation year on year.

Get your bad news in early is typically the philosophy of a new government. 

Unfortunately, the rate is still at 2.8%- an increase above the desired rate, on top of huge rate increases previously.

Marvellous. 

[Traf]

Reform's new councillors settling in well...

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2891483831192953

[Nowack]

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Unfortunately, inflation will very likelyshoot up again.

Once the fuel price increases and subsequent food costs come into the equation, the effect will be dramatic.

Not necessarily the direct fault of the government, but that doesn't count in politics.

The labour strapline previously was "Tory cost of living crisis". Wasn't their fault that Russia invaded of course, but that doesn't matter.

Say it enough, and it's gospel.

Hence why the opposition this time will also use it against them.

2.8% is still 0.8% higher than when they took office.

I'm not sure that some folk understand inflation, and that it is compared with the year previous.

Large increases in costs and prices when they came in raised the rate.

A year on, and the current rate is reflecting those price increases that already occurred. 

It would be quite difficult to maintain that level of inflation year on year.

Get your bad news in early is typically the philosophy of a new government. 

Unfortunately, the rate is still at 2.8%- an increase above the desired rate, on top of huge rate increases previously.

Marvellous. 

Thats a bit dramatic. The average rate of inflation over the past century is about 4.5% and since the 90s 2.5 so not really catastrophic. 

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, Zico said:

you must be losing yours if you don't remember Liz Truss 

It's cognitive decline mate. One of the brains of Britain on here assured me of this.

Lettuce think for a minute.

Edited Thursday at 11:18 by bolty58

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Literally nobody is denying that this is the case. 

Jesus - does every SINGLE piece of good or bad news need to be dissected across party lines and spun? 

It's like being at primary school 

It does when some are implying that the reduction is in any way attributable to the calamity of clowns currently in power.

[gonzo]

We need more migrants not less.

Economic ones to fill the black hole and impeding doom and collapse of the bond markets.

 

[BobyBrno]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Literally nobody is denying that this is the case. 

Jesus - does every SINGLE piece of good or bad news need to be dissected across party lines and spun? 

It's like being at primary school 

It’s a politics thread. Every bit of news is dissected into party politics. Not sure why you’ve singled me out Sir. 

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Literally nobody is denying that this is the case. 

Jesus - does every SINGLE piece of good or bad news need to be dissected across party lines and spun? 

It's like being at primary school 

Yu know the rules.

If it's bad news it's labours fault. If it's good news it's because the Tories did something years ago

[kent_white]

26 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It’s a politics thread. Every bit of news is dissected into party politics. Not sure why you’ve singled me out Sir. 

Just because you seem to be the worst culprit for it at the moment. 

I'm not saying it's just you by any stretch. 

[kent_white]

32 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

It does when some are implying that the reduction is in any way attributable to the calamity of clowns currently in power.

Nobody was implying that. You've inferred it. 

The post just said 

"Immigration down again"

Not "Look what a fantastic job Labour are doing about bringing down immigration"

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Unfortunately, inflation will very likelyshoot up again.

Once the fuel price increases and subsequent food costs come into the equation, the effect will be dramatic.

Not necessarily the direct fault of the government, but that doesn't count in politics.

The labour strapline previously was "Tory cost of living crisis". Wasn't their fault that Russia invaded of course, but that doesn't matter.

Say it enough, and it's gospel.

Hence why the opposition this time will also use it against them.

2.8% is still 0.8% higher than when they took office.

I'm not sure that some folk understand inflation, and that it is compared with the year previous.

Large increases in costs and prices when they came in raised the rate.

A year on, and the current rate is reflecting those price increases that already occurred. 

It would be quite difficult to maintain that level of inflation year on year.

Get your bad news in early is typically the philosophy of a new government. 

Unfortunately, the rate is still at 2.8%- an increase above the desired rate, on top of huge rate increases previously.

Marvellous. 

I'm guessing only fuckwits don't

[BobyBrno]

29 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Just because you seem to be the worst culprit for it at the moment. 

I'm not saying it's just you by any stretch. 

Really? I’ll shut up then if it upsets you. 
PS don’t watch the news.👍

[kent_white]

13 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Really? I’ll shut up then if it upsets you. 
PS don’t watch the news.👍

Great. Much appreciated! 👍 

[mickbrown]

Be reet......

 

 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Be reet......

 

 

None of it matters. Racist thickos want Racist thickos running things, and there are a shit load of Racist thickos in this country.

[Ani]

50 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Be reet......

 

 

She actually says at one point something along the lines of  - People voting on something they do not understand is undemocratic - is she talking about Brexit ? 
 

Every two years we have Council Elections, new councillors get induction courses, training and people to guide them through the process but suddenly it is not enough. 

Edited Thursday at 13:59 by Ani

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

Be reet......

 

 

I mean this COULD just be a one off. If it's being replicated up and down the country then it's going to be washing and awful lot of time and money. 

It has been chopped and edited though.

[Marc505]

 

 

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

None of it matters. Racist thickos want Racist thickos running things, and there are a shit load of Racist thickos in this country.

And this is why we can't have nice things.

[gonzo]

They are nothing but a produce of inept government and councils across the country and exactly what happens when you ignore and fail to address problems and people's concerns.

It's absolutely criminal that the door has been fling open for the likes of those above in to even contemplate running the country.

Unhappy people lurch to extremes. This mess isn't reforms fault. It's the past decade and a half of Conservative government.

They should be nowhere near office and local councils and stuck in wilderness like UKIP and the monster raving loony party.

 

[Dimron]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

Be reet......

 

 

Briefly looked at it and I get her point in a way... I once had a go at being a Parish Councillor and even at that level you could only address the chair, follow the constitution and debate endless amendment's and minutes of previous meetings. Non councillors (members of the public) could only address the meeting at a set time and for a limited time slot... result... nothing ever got done except take pages and pages of minutes.

The local council format needs reforming, at present it is only fit for retired public sector managers

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

They are nothing but a produce of inept government and councils across the country and exactly what happens when you ignore and fail to address problems and people's concerns.

It's absolutely criminal that the door has been fling open for the likes of those above in to even contemplate running the country.

Unhappy people lurch to extremes. This mess isn't reforms fault. It's the past decade and a half of Conservative government.

They should be nowhere near office and local councils and stuck in wilderness like UKIP and the monster raving loony party.

 

Quite happy to prey on those feelings though.

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 This mess isn't reforms fault. It's the past decade and a half of Conservative government.

I'm not so sure. The Reform lot were largely responsible for leading us out of the EU. And many of them were part of previous conservative governments.

So I think they're slightly culpable already. 

So not Reform 'per se' but a lot of the characters.

[Spider]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

They are nothing but a produce of inept government and councils across the country and exactly what happens when you ignore and fail to address problems and people's concerns.

It's absolutely criminal that the door has been fling open for the likes of those above in to even contemplate running the country.

Unhappy people lurch to extremes. This mess isn't reforms fault. It's the past decade and a half of Conservative government.

They should be nowhere near office and local councils and stuck in wilderness like UKIP and the monster raving loony party.

 

@Boby Brno is Gonzo correct about the Tories being at fault?

[Spider]

Asylum applications have dropped as well, presumably because of something Boris Johnson did whilst out jogging one day.