Politics

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

And this is why we can't have nice things.

The latter then 👍

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

The latter then 👍

No. Night, enjoy your shift.

[Zico]

9 hours ago, Ani said:

She actually says at one point something along the lines of  - People voting on something they do not understand is undemocratic - is she talking about Brexit ? 
 

aye, was going to post similar 

think the whole Brexit and reform shit show is summed up when she says 

"we might vote for something we don't understand at the moment" 

[Zico]

9 hours ago, gonzo said:

 

Unhappy people lurch to extremes. This mess isn't reforms fault. It's the past decade and a half of Conservative government.

Farage has played a huge part in this mess 

making promises he couldn't keep when spearheading Brexit

which in turn has seen migrant and small boat numbers explode because we're in a weaker position to do anything about them 

and now he's saying he'll sort it out

which he won't 

he's creating fear then preying on it

[Zico]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

Backlog appeals up 100% so it looks like a lot of their hard work hasn’t really achieved much 

that's progress though right?

in that rather than sitting around doing nothing as they were previously, they've had their claim put in and rejected and things are moving 

all part of the process 

appeals being up 100% is better than 90, 75, 50 etc

the turnaround time and result of the appeals will be the next indicator of progress

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

that's progress though right?

in that rather than sitting around doing nothing as they were previously, they've had their claim put in and rejected and things are moving 

all part of the process 

appeals being up 100% is better than 90, 75, 50 etc

the turnaround time and result of the appeals will be the next indicator of progress

Around 2/3 of those initially refused asylum are then allowed to stay. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/12/asylum-appeal-backlog-doubles-in-year-home-office-statistics

[Zico]

56 minutes ago, royal white said:

Around 2/3 of those initially refused asylum are then allowed to stay. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/mar/12/asylum-appeal-backlog-doubles-in-year-home-office-statistics

aye, appeals being up isn't the issue, they're to be expected

this is the issue

Average time for an appeal to be heard is now up to 63 weeks.

and then the randomness and levels of bull shit of the excuses that are made in the appeal and accepted by judges

but government say

“We are reforming human rights laws and replacing the broken appeals system, bringing an end to unacceptable delays and repeat applications, with extra funding to maximise the number of appeals that can be heard in First Tier Tribunals.

“These initiatives will reduce appeal times, enabling swifter movement out of asylum hotels and removal of those with no right to be in the UK.”

so for me, as said, the turnaround time and result of the appeals will be the next indicator of progress

[bolty58]

19 hours ago, kent_white said:

Nobody was implying that. You've inferred it. 

The post just said 

"Immigration down again"

Not "Look what a fantastic job Labour are doing about bringing down immigration"

How very dare you.

I note that they are playing with words when net migration also included a quarter of a million Starmer refugees who have cleared out.

Their rash claims about the economy are equally on shaky ground. You can't build a reputation on forecasts. I doubt Rachel Reeves could build a reputation on a forecourt. Utterly and completely out of her depth but, of course, no threat to the 'top' mans job.

The only ones willing to swallow their BS are those who have nailed their flag to the mast of the sinking ship.

An interesting few weeks coming. He's hanging on by his fingernails and may continue to do so until the guillotine finally falls. He'll be quietly hoping for a Reform win in Makerfield.

[bolty58]

19 hours ago, mickbrown said:

I'm guessing only fuckwits don't

It was only flat at the bottom.

[bolty58]

17 hours ago, kent_white said:

It has been chopped and edited though.

Don't stop their fake news FFS.

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'm not so sure. The Reform lot were largely responsible for leading us out of the EU. And many of them were part of previous conservative governments.

So I think they're slightly culpable already. 

So not Reform 'per se' but a lot of the characters.

You need to look left not right. That's where the problems began and are currently strengthening.

[bolty58]

14 hours ago, kent_white said:

Some people won't be happy until they start to see brown people disappearing from their high street. 

That will be their benchmark.

Are the stopping us going to the CDS for holidays?

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, gonzo said:

 Less Turkish Barbers/Vietnamese Nail Salons/Albanian Vape shops or any other money laundering operation the better.

Less gangs of Romanians hovering outside grocery shops all day too that sell dodgy fags and run passport rackets in the back.

Maybe there is a benchmark.

Correct and let more industrious and peace loving Sikhs, Hindus and Jamaicans in.

Fuck all to do with skin colour and they know it. It's just their 'go to' like 'Trump the Paedo'.

[bolty58]

7 hours ago, Zico said:

Farage has played a huge part in this mess 

making promises he couldn't keep when spearheading Brexit

which in turn has seen migrant and small boat numbers explode because we're in a weaker position to do anything about them 

and now he's saying he'll sort it out

which he won't 

he's creating fear then preying on it

What fucking twaddle. The saviour is more accurate.

[kent_white]

52 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

He'll be quietly hoping for a Reform win in Makerfield.

That's what I thought. And he's offered to throw his full weight behind the by-election which might do a lot more harm than good for AB! 😁

[kent_white]

51 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

You need to look left not right. That's where the problems began and are currently strengthening.

How do you mean? 

[Cheese]

55 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Don't stop their fake news FFS.

It's not "fake news" though.

 

[kent_white]

50 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Correct and let more industrious and peace loving Sikhs, Hindus and Jamaicans in.

Fuck all to do with skin colour and they know it. It's just their 'go to' like 'Trump the Paedo'.

I'm not sure we do know it. 

I doubt your average person on that march last week really differentiates. 

Perhaps Reform could have some kind of symbol for the Muslims to wear so that we can easily identify them? ⭐😉

[Spider]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Don't stop their fake news FFS.

How is it fake news?

The reform councillor actually stood up and said they didn’t understand anything about the job they’ve just been given.

Patriots my fucking arse 😂😂

[fatolive]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'm not sure we do know it. 

I doubt your average person on that march last week really differentiates. 

Perhaps Reform could have some kind of symbol for the Muslims to wear so that we can easily identify them? ⭐😉

Course they don’t.
there’s a church near us, recently converted and gone up to be a Syriac Christian church . 
syriac Christians seem to be from India , it’s always full and they have lots of celebrations there. 
in the local one Sunday after one had just finished, the local bore says to me: see that lot this afternoon? Fucking hell they’re all over place now, never thought we’d get one in Breightmet , disgraceful, Bolton council  “ etc etc 

I pointed out that they were infact Christians, the church was Christian and it was more than likely a Christian celebration. 
his reply , “ you obviously didn’t see it, these were all Muslims , fuckin 100s of em” 

to which another halfwit then said, yeh, they’re Muslim Christians 🤷‍♂️

I made my excuses and left them to it at that stage , but obviously their appearance determined what they were, to those two at least . 

[kent_white]

13 minutes ago, fatolive said:

Course they don’t.
there’s a church near us, recently converted and gone up to be a Syriac Christian church . 
syriac Christians seem to be from India , it’s always full and they have lots of celebrations there. 
in the local one Sunday after one had just finished, the local bore says to me: see that lot this afternoon? Fucking hell they’re all over place now, never thought we’d get one in Breightmet , disgraceful, Bolton council  “ etc etc 

I pointed out that they were infact Christians, the church was Christian and it was more than likely a Christian celebration. 
his reply , “ you obviously didn’t see it, these were all Muslims , fuckin 100s of em” 

to which another halfwit then said, yeh, they’re Muslim Christians 🤷‍♂️

I made my excuses and left them to it at that stage , but obviously their appearance determined what they were, to those two at least . 

I think these are the type of people other people are referring to when they use the term 'racist thickos'.

Not everyone who is right leaning. 

[Cheese]

8 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I think these are the type of people other people are referring to when they use the term 'racist thickos'.

Not everyone who is right leaning. 

Yep. And there's fucking millions of them.

[fatolive]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I think these are the type of people other people are referring to when they use the term 'racist thickos'.

Not everyone who is right leaning. 

Oh I know that. There are well articulated genuine concerns too, which I agree with , I just found this bemusing and amusing 

[BobyBrno]

Yours Truly, Honest Bob.

ps All allegedly of course. 👍

 

[kent_white]

10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yours Truly, Honest Bob.

ps All allegedly of course. 👍

 

I've never heard of Vimal Choksi - but he's in some bother if any or all of this is true. 

Manchester Mill is excellent by the way. Proper investigative journalism and did some great work uncovering shoddy goings on at Bolton Uni. My mate writes for the Sheffield version!