there's this exhibition on at Manchester Art Gallery - pics of Manc and surrounding area by some bloke called Martin Parr

http://manchesterartgallery.org/exhibitions-and-events/exhibition/martin-parr/

went at the weekend, in amongst all his pics are these two from the 78 promotion season - well before my time (I was 1 at the time) but good pics - love that one of the town hall steps

there's also some pics of Yates Wine Lodge in the 80s but didn't bother taking a pic of those

 

So, Alan Waldron. Was he any good?

I was only a young lad but don't remember much about him. Was he injury prone? 

My main memory is seeing my dad really animated when his goal in a win at Bristol Rovers was on the box. Was a cracker

Him and ritson were a superb partnership

Horrendous leg break at Blackpool and he was never quite the same

 

His brother played for burnley and he and Colin bell opened a restaurant in whitefield

11 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

So, Alan Waldron. Was he any good?

I was only a young lad but don't remember much about him. Was he injury prone? 

My main memory is seeing my dad really animated when his goal in a win at Bristol Rovers was on the box. Was a cracker

Yep, he was proper box to box. I always liked him but not quite the same player, as Casino says, after his injury. We had a great set of young ‘uns then- fuck the Class of ‘92.

1 hour ago, MickyD said:

Do they not all start speaking in Welsh as soon as an English bloke walks in? Mate of mine is English/Welsh bilingual. Great fun.

 

1 hour ago, wakey said:

no, friendly as owt in Llandudno.

If you go away from the coast a bit you get a lot of Welsh-speakers. In fairness, they're not doing it because the English bloke's walked in, they're doing it because it's their first language.

Go to Llandudno a lot and I can't say I've come across the Welsh types much. It's touristy with a good selection of old folk from everywhere. It's a Welsh version of Lytham St Annes, and you don't get a Lancashire type accent there. The more you go inland the more you get the Welch speak.

Was at Blackpool when Waldron broke his leg, I'm sure you could hear it snap all around the ground.

5 hours ago, Casino said:

Him and ritson were a superb partnership

Horrendous leg break at Blackpool and he was never quite the same

 

His brother played for burnley and he and Colin bell opened a restaurant in whitefield

 

The two Colins imaginatively called it "Bell Waldron"! Visited a couple of times  - good chef. Always seemed to be some sort of 'celeb' dining in there. Ian St.John on my first occasion and Tony Wilson and crowd on the second.

I was pretty close to where Alan Waldron broke his leg and swear that his foot was nearly pointing backwards at 180 degrees to where it should have been. Really sickening one that was.

Always remember his 40 yard screamer in injury time to beat Chesterfield 1-0 at Burnden. Jimmy Armfield was so excited he leapt up and cracked his bonce open on the concrete dugout!

13 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

The two Colins imaginatively called it "Bell Waldron"! Visited a couple of times  - good chef. Always seemed to be some sort of 'celeb' dining in there. Ian St.John on my first occasion and Tony Wilson and crowd on the second.

I was pretty close to where Alan Waldron broke his leg and swear that his foot was nearly pointing backwards at 180 degrees to where it should have been. Really sickening one that was.

Always remember his 40 yard screamer in injury time to beat Chesterfield 1-0 at Burnden. Jimmy Armfield was so excited he leapt up and cracked his bonce open on the concrete dugout!

You're right about his leg, remember him being face down & his foot pointing upwards.

Good player Waldron not the quickest but really skillfull ..Greaves didnt always play him as he was such a hard taskmaster.Agree not the same player after the injury.

I reckon he was as underrated and under-played as Brian Smith. Always understudy to Garry Jones and Neil Whatmore but seemed to score more often than not when he did get a start.

1 hour ago, MickyD said:

I reckon he was as underrated and under-played as Brian Smith. Always understudy to Garry Jones and Neil Whatmore but seemed to score more often than not when he did get a start.

Played as a midfielder not a striker 

Alan Waldron was one of the young players that created the momentum that eventually led us to winning that promotion in 1978. 

This is an extract from the official club website about the famous match in 71 against Sheffield United. Just 7 years later we were promoted against Blackburn. 

‘Facing off in front of the TV cameras in the Second Division on Saturday 16 January, 1971, manager Nat Lofthouse named possibly the youngest ever Whites team as Bolton hosted the league-leaders at Burnden Park.

 

Seven of the Trotters team that day were aged 20-years-old or younger, while a 17-year-old Paul Jones was handed his Wanderers debut.

 

The Blades opened the scoring within the first 15 minutes but the Whites fought back with Ian Seddon thundering home into the top corner from 30 yards (pictured) to equalise shortly before the interval.

 

Paul Fletcher's second half strike then clinched a famous 2-1 victory for Bolton.’

 

The Trotters team that day was; Boswell, Ritson, P. Jones, Hulme, McAllister, Redfern, Waldron, Seddon, Phillips, G. Jones, Fletcher

On 06/02/2019 at 21:52, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

Was at Blackpool when Waldron broke his leg, I'm sure you could hear it snap all around the ground.

It happened right in front of my older brother. He was right down at the front. Yeah he said you definitely heard the snap. Worst thing he’d ever seen on a football pitch 

6 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

Alan Waldron was one of the young players that created the momentum that eventually led us to winning that promotion in 1978. 

This is an extract from the official club website about the famous match in 71 against Sheffield United. Just 7 years later we were promoted against Blackburn. 

‘Facing off in front of the TV cameras in the Second Division on Saturday 16 January, 1971, manager Nat Lofthouse named possibly the youngest ever Whites team as Bolton hosted the league-leaders at Burnden Park.

 

Seven of the Trotters team that day were aged 20-years-old or younger, while a 17-year-old Paul Jones was handed his Wanderers debut.

 

The Blades opened the scoring within the first 15 minutes but the Whites fought back with Ian Seddon thundering home into the top corner from 30 yards (pictured) to equalise shortly before the interval.

 

Paul Fletcher's second half strike then clinched a famous 2-1 victory for Bolton.’

 

The Trotters team that day was; Boswell, Ritson, P. Jones, Hulme, McAllister, Redfern, Waldron, Seddon, Phillips, G. Jones, Fletcher

 

Boby, as some may know, it was Seddo who introduced me to WWays. We went the the Ashes game down here in Perth when he toured (think he got something put into a match programme?).

One of my fondest memories is that goal. I was bang in line with it in the Lever End and was far enough back that it was coming at me like an arrow. I knew from the moment he hit it that it was unstoppable. He stays in touch via e-mail and I often remind him of that goal to massage his ego 

6 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

It happened right in front of my older brother. He was right down at the front. Yeah he said you definitely heard the snap. Worst thing he’d ever seen on a football pitch 

He's obviously not still watching the Wanderers then.

6 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

Boby, as some may know, it was Seddo who introduced me to WWays. We went the the Ashes game down here in Perth when he toured (think he got something put into a match programme?).

One of my fondest memories is that goal. I was bang in line with it in the Lever End and was far enough back that it was coming at me like an arrow. I knew from the moment he hit it that it was unstoppable. He stays in touch via e-mail and I often remind him of that goal to massage his ego 

Yes I remember you meeting him in the LOV suite and your offer to meet in Aus.

That team went down that season but the foundations had been built for the future. There are similarities with today. Fletcher and McAllister were sold to keep us afloat but others all played their part in the rebuilding. Whether we have the same young talent today remains to be seen.

Just one question Boby, for some reason I keep picturing the goal v Sheff U in our experimental strip of all white with the red number.

Correct or is my mind playing tricks on me?

18 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Yes I remember you meeting him in the LOV suite and your offer to meet in Aus.

That team went down that season but the foundations had been built for the future. There are similarities with today. Fletcher and McAllister were sold to keep us afloat but others all played their part in the rebuilding. Whether we have the same young talent today remains to be seen.

Mcallister was sold later

And it wasn't for money

He couldn't get a game and the radcliffe lad opted to join spurs

Never could work that out

53 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Just one question Boby, for some reason I keep picturing the goal v Sheff U in our experimental strip of all white with the red number.

Correct or is my mind playing tricks on me?

Correct. Remember the white scarfs with two red stripes? Jimmy Armfield abandoned that experiment when he took over the following season.

59 minutes ago, Casino said:

Mcallister was sold later

And it wasn't for money

He couldn't get a game and the radcliffe lad opted to join spurs

Never could work that out

He only missed 2 games in the 74/75 season before being sold to Spurs for £80,000 in February 75. 

 

7 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

He only missed 2 games in the 74/75 season before being sold to Spurs for £80,000 in February 75. 

 

fair enough

maybe it was that he was playing full back and wanted to be centre back?

we didnt sell him for money, though

i remember his dad telling us it was something he wanted to do

i couldnt undersatnd why he wanted to swap the bright lights of ainsworth road for london

My recollection of Mcallister was that he was played at left back by JA but he really fancied himself as a central defender so was sold to Spurs where it has to be said he did pretty well.

I thought he wasnt the best lb & got a few skinnings once particularly at Bristol Rovers .....80 thou at the time seemed a good price ....although his value increased playing for Spurs.

Just  checked & shows 'recollection' at least mine is suspect DM was sold by Greaves after the arrival of Tony Dunne who took the left back position (initially under Armfields tenure)& was moved to central defence & played half a season there.So maybe he did prefer left back but was second choice?

 

Edited February 8, 20197 yr by Take Hunt Off

He wanted to play centre back

The fact he played half a season and then went.....

Unless jones/allardyce had come straight back in after injury?

I was young 

What's your excuse.

Being old enough to have discovered ale I suspect 

 

Aye, prerequisite of supporting us

13 hours ago, MickyD said:

He's obviously not still watching the Wanderers then.

Ha ha no idea pal. Not seen or heard from him since 1986. Think he’s still alive as he has a flat in Camden that’s rented out under his name but won’t make contact. Doubt the cunt knows that our Dad died 10 years ago. If he’s still alive he’ll be watching all the London games. Always did. Hippy cunt who got massively into resin and LSD. Fuck him