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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Nowt wrong with trying to keep them open; but the new strain and numbers now changing the game.

A circuit breaker whilst vaccinating teachers seems a way out.

At least that way, it steals the thunder of any union activists should they actually be trying to undermine the government.

If many schools are likely to be without a number of sick or isolating staff, they're going g to be shut anyhow.

So why are the schools shutting in Union advice and not government advice, which is contrary.

They've completely lost this one, its run away from them and now unions are shutting schools, not the elected government, in many cases a few hours before kids are due back. Totally shambolic.

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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He's been given some spoons for Christmas I reckon. Loves stirring.

 

I’m serious. Call one. Just the distraction we need right now and will solve the problem?

the problem is the minority who have caused this. But they’re too big to admit it 

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2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I’m serious. Call one. Just the distraction we need right now and will solve the problem?

the problem is the minority who have caused this. But they’re too big to admit it 

Who are the minority who have caused this

Maybe you could name names for the avoidance of doubt

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NASUWT Habe warned that using section 44 to stay off work can result in dismissal. 

Not something I would do tbh. Not heard anything from daughters school though. Last time they used secondary teachers from another MAT linked school to plug gaps. 

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1 minute ago, Casino said:

Who are the minority who have caused this

Maybe you could name names for the avoidance of doubt

I don’t live other peoples lives. So I don’t see what rules people are breaking. I just know what I’ve done.  
If people have broken rules. Then they know. They don’t need me speculating who has done what. 
 

we all live with it. 

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Just now, only1swanny said:

NASUWT Habe warned that using section 44 to stay off work can result in dismissal. 

Not something I would do tbh. Not heard anything from daughters school though. Last time they used secondary teachers from another MAT linked school to plug gaps. 

My sister has had a ton of union emails today but with the larger local authorities now backing a two week minimum shutdown it won't be long.

A total lockdown called this week, just to take control of this situation.

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1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

So why are the schools shutting in Union advice and not government advice, which is contrary.

They've completely lost this one, its run away from them and now unions are shutting schools, not the elected government, in many cases a few hours before kids are due back. Totally shambolic.

Your post has no context to mine- dunno why you're creating an argument.

In the immediate term, if they shut, there's little anyone can do. 

Should the government choose to, they could decide its a refusal to work/illegal strike and start disciplinary action. But they won't for obvious reasons.

Still nothing wrong in aiming to have schools open though- so long as it is safe. 

A unions role is to look after its members, and the clearly feel they have a case. Their primary responsibility isn't to children.

Hence my suggestion, in line with what others have said, is get the vaccinations done.

Helps both.

 

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Just now, Escobarp said:

So when people now complain because their kids can’t go to school who do they blame now? Can’t be the person who said to go can it? Has to be the unions. 

No one is blaming schools or indeed unions. But its the Sunday before kids go back. Give people more time to prepare. Its not like the gvt didn't know this was happening.

They've fucked this right up.

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9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I’m serious. Call one. Just the distraction we need right now and will solve the problem?

the problem is the minority who have caused this. But they’re too big to admit it 

You think we need a distraction ? 
 

Rather than focus ? 

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Just now, Casino said:

Clever bloke is bozo

Would appear to me to be a masterstroke. 
 

to get what you want and let someone else take the fall for it? Very clever. Not really befitting of a PM to be honest. But he can do no right in some eyes anyway so what the hell 

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10 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

So why are the schools shutting in Union advice and not government advice, which is contrary.

They've completely lost this one, its run away from them and now unions are shutting schools, not the elected government, in many cases a few hours before kids are due back. Totally shambolic.

Unions closing schools

Supposedly education unions

More like anti-education

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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Your post has no context to mine- dunno why you're creating an argument.

In the immediate term, if they shut, there's little anyone can do. 

Should the government choose to, they could decide its a refusal to work/illegal strike and start disciplinary action. But they won't for obvious reasons.

Still nothing wrong in aiming to have schools open though- so long as it is safe. 

A unions role is to look after its members, and the clearly feel they have a case. Their primary responsibility isn't to children.

Hence my suggestion, in line with what others have said, is get the vaccinations done.

Helps both.

 

I'm not arguing, I'm just amazed folks are not more shocked about blanket ignoring of the central government and the lack of control of the messaging.

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5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Who are the minority who have caused this

Maybe you could name names for the avoidance of doubt

What a daft comment. Just watch the news regularly, or be honest about your own observations on new lane for example.

Even front line doctors are calling it- are they not to be believed?

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Just now, Not in Crawley said:

No one is blaming schools or indeed unions. But its the Sunday before kids go back. Give people more time to prepare. Its not like the gvt didn't know this was happening.

They've fucked this right up.

Oh they will be looking for someone to blame. If Boris had done this tonight in a presser at 9pm

uproar. Folk on here would’ve been melting in their armchairs. 
 

as it is it isn’t him that’s decided this it’s the unions. There will be uproar tomorrow and somehow it will be the governments fault. Bet you a pint on it 

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1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Would appear to me to be a masterstroke. 
 

to get what you want and let someone else take the fall for it? Very clever. Not really befitting of a PM to be honest. But he can do no right in some eyes anyway so what the hell 

Fucking hell. Its a bad day for the government, make no mistake about that my blue hued Johnson loverboy.

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1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What a daft comment. Just watch the news regularly, or be honest about your own observations on new lane for example.

Even front line doctors are calling it- are they not to be believed?

Deflection. Masters at it 

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1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Oh they will be looking for someone to blame. If Boris had done this tonight in a presser at 9pm

uproar. Folk on here would’ve been melting in their armchairs. 
 

as it is it isn’t him that’s decided this it’s the unions. There will be uproar tomorrow and somehow it will be the governments fault. Bet you a pint on it 

Nope, waaaaaay off. No uproar, being ignored is way worse. Folk are taking no notice of them whatsoever now. Thats what is shocking.

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