the last shooting / things that go on in America thread has definitely dissappeared

anyway

not the "happy ending" you would have expected

https://twitter.com/i/events/1371972779893944327

Suspect arrested after eight people, including six Asian women, were killed at Atlanta-area spas

Eight people, including six Asian women, were killed in shootings at three different businesses in Atlanta and Acworth, Georgia, on Tuesday, according to local police. A male suspect was arrested and charged with several counts of murder on Wednesday, police said. At a press conference in Atlanta on Wednesday, authorities identified the four victims killed in Cherokee County.

 

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

And we’ve also been told to wait for the more honest in depth reports…..but oh no here you are. 🙄

Here's a question for you then. Do you think that it's a least possible that Donald Trump is overplaying how damaging these strikes were to Iran's nuclear capabilities? 

11 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Personally I'd be happy for a few million people to be incinerated and millions more to die from radiation poisoning AND risk world war three, if it meant I could have a few moments of smug satisfaction on a football forum! ✌️😁

Has to be one of the greatest replies to a daft as fck RW question I’ve ever seen 😂

40 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Listen I've just had to see Quadrophenia the ballet - I'm well in to annoy people 😁

Did you stick around & ask all the ballet dancers what they thought about Israel after the show? 😄

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

And we’ve also been told to wait for the more honest in depth reports…..but oh no here you are. 🙄

Christ you’re a right fanny sometimes 😂

 I’ve just said time will tell. I’m only pointing out there are two differing views on the damage caused. 
 

Wouldn’t you agree that either could be true?

It’s like you can’t function if you’re not arguing with someone 😄

9 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Here's a question for you then. Do you think that it's a least possible that Donald Trump is overplaying how damaging these strikes were to Iran's nuclear capabilities? 

I’ve no idea. We’ve seen some of the most advanced military weaponary  in action on what’s pretty much a third world shit hole, why would you think it’s failed? Would you expect any leader to get up and say “you know what we’ve  just wasted 100s of millions doing that, what a fuck up” 

 

‘I’ve no idea 😂 ‘

Trump said they were set back by decades. Nobody has even come to close to agreeing that saying the evidence shows that. The CIA & Israel say years.

A 3 year old could spot him overplaying this

Edited June 25, 2025Jun 25 by London Wanderer

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

‘I’ve no idea 😂 ‘

Trump said they were set back by decades. Nobody has even come to close to agreeing that saying the evidence shows that. The CIA & Israel say years.

A 3 year old could spot him overplaying this

But you’re going with the “few months” how surprising. 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

But you’re going with the “few months” how surprising. 

I’m not going with anything 😂😂

I’m pointing out there are different lines of reliable evidence & that time will tell.

One thing we do know is that ThE DoN was wrong when he said decades. 
 

It’s like you always have to have an answer. Wouldn’t know nuance if it slapped you in the face 😉

Do you go outside & argue with a brick wall when we’ve all gone to bed ? 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

You’re just dying for it to be a failure aren’t you 😂

Precisely. In his world, only Hamas press releases are credible.

Just now, London Wanderer said:

I’m not going with anything 😂😂

I’m pointing out there are different lines of reliable evidence & that time will tell.

One thing we do know is that ThE DoN was wrong when he said decades. 
 

It’s like you always have to have an answer. Wouldn’t know nuance if it slapped you in the face 😉

Do you go outside & argue with a brick wall when we’ve all gone to bed ? 

How do you know that? Seriously? 
 

And you keep going on about this arguing yet here you are at it, again, with me, Bolty and Gonzo earlier on. It’s weird.

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

How do you know that? Seriously? 
 

And you keep going on about this arguing yet here you are at it, again, with me, Bolty and Gonzo earlier on. It’s weird.

Yeah but, no but, Trump was wrong. Wasn't he?

Haven't seen approval ratings for The Don since the targeted surgery. No doubt high yet again?

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

How do you know that? Seriously? 
 

And you keep going on about this arguing yet here you are at it, again, with me, Bolty and Gonzo earlier on. It’s weird.

But whatabout Bolty & Gonzo 😂😂

I wasn’t arguing with Gonzo earlier was I ? 

We know nothing for 100% do we? Except that you’re an argumentative twat who still hasn’t learnt how to find common ground 😉

But we do know that not one piece of evidence from anywhere in US or Israeli intelligence, or anywhere else, comes anywhere close to suggesting it was set back decades.

The moron even said it was ‘like Hiroshima’ 😅

3 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Yeah but, no but, Trump was wrong. Wasn't he?

 

Yeah he kind of was … 

It wasn’t set back by decades & it wasn’t like Hiroshima 😂

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

But whatabout Bolty & Gonzo 😂😂

I wasn’t arguing with Gonzo earlier was I ? 

We know nothing for 100% do we? Except that you’re an argumentative twat who still hasn’t learnt how to find common ground 😉

But we do know that not one piece of evidence from anywhere in US or Israeli intelligence, or anywhere else, comes anywhere close to suggesting it was set back decades.

The moron even said it was ‘like Hiroshima’ 😅

“One thing we do know is the Don was wrong”

next post 

“We know nothing for 100%” 

funny guy you. 
 

Im guessing nuclear plants which took decades to develop (not yet complete) and have now been destroyed, will take a long time to be rebuilt. 

Edited June 25, 2025Jun 25 by royal white

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yes it is binary.

Why now? 

Do you really think this is going to help in the long run? Because I'm damn sure it won't and we're just pushing another issue into an much larger one.

I thought you were brighter then this.

Shouldn’t that be “brighter than”

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ve no idea. We’ve seen some of the most advanced military weaponary  in action on what’s pretty much a third world shit hole, why would you think it’s failed? Would you expect any leader to get up and say “you know what we’ve  just wasted 100s of millions doing that, what a fuck up” 

 

You've not answered my question mind 😉 

I only think it might have failed because of the leaked intelligence report. And I'm willing to believe from what I understand about Donald Trump that he is prone to over exaggeration. 

And no - I wouldn't expect any leaders to say those words. Although I'd expect most leaders to be a lot more balanced about their initial statements, given there's still a lot of understandable uncertainty about how much damage has been done - especially as large parts of it were underground. 

And yes, the US has some incredible equipment - but nothing that can see through 20 odd feet of reinforced steel and concrete that's built into the side of a mountain as far as I know 😁

I 100% hope Donald is right. And like I said immediately after the strikes - I think he's done the right thing IF it turns out to be as successful as he's claiming. 

If I was a betting man though, I'd be putting my money on it not being quite as successful as DT has made it out to be. Probably somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. 

I also think there's a very high probability that Iran has moved some of it's enriched uranium elsewhere. Given how much advance warning it had that an attack was likely. If it had come out of the blue then I'd be more inclined to believe it was all still there. 

I'm not picking a row on one side or another just because it's DT by the way. I just don't think I've seen enough evidence one way or another to make a judgement call. Which isn't surprising if you think that the report which cast doubt on the amount of damage that has been done was only a preliminary one. So even the intelligence services are still comiling information. 

I know you might be happy to take DT at his word and that's fine, but I'm still sceptical given his track record. Remaining cautious and reserved  about it is the only sensible position for me at the moment. Given what's at stake. 

Imagine DT IS wrong, or is exaggerating or has been fed bad intelligence by some sycophants? We might collectively take our eye off the ball. 

 

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

“One thing we don know is the Don was wrong”

next post 

“We know nothing for 100%” 

funny guy you. 
 

Im guessing nuclear plants which took decades to develop (not yet complete) and have now been destroyed, will take a long time to be rebuilt. 

You think everyone expressing an opinion on a footy forum thinks they’re 💯 right all the time ? 😂

No shit Sherlock. What an incredible observation.

And a nice deflection away from all the evidence that points to Trump’s claim being significantly exaggerated.

 Why do you find it so hard to accept he was overplaying it?

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You think everyone expressing an opinion on a footy forum thinks they’re 💯 right all the time ? 😂

No shit Sherlock. What an incredible observation.

And a nice deflection away from all the evidence that points to Trump’s claim being significantly exaggerated.

 Why do you find it so hard to accept he was overplaying it?

 

 

 

I’m with John Ratcliife, it’s going to take years. Seeing first hand how the lazy fuckers work in the middle East those years could easily turn into decades. 
 

Im very confident it won’t be a few months. (Unfortunately for you) 

Just reading more about the Fordow plant. Apparently - it's built 300ft beneath the ground in solid rock.

The GBU-57 which was used can penetrate rock to a maximum of 65ft.

This is from a ballistics expert being reported on ABC news in Oz. I've no idea whether the ballistics experts is any good though. And I'll have to leave it to @bolty58 to tell you whether ABC News are flag waving communists like the BBC because I can't remember.

Here's a link to the article though.....

https://abcnews.go.com/International/hegseth-irans-nuclear-program-obliterated-damage/story?id=123118900

4 hours ago, kent_white said:

Just reading more about the Fordow plant. Apparently - it's built 300ft beneath the ground in solid rock.

The GBU-57 which was used can penetrate rock to a maximum of 65ft.

This is from a ballistics expert being reported on ABC news in Oz. I've no idea whether the ballistics experts is any good though. And I'll have to leave it to @bolty58 to tell you whether ABC News are flag waving communists like the BBC because I can't remember.

Here's a link to the article though.....

https://abcnews.go.com/International/hegseth-irans-nuclear-program-obliterated-damage/story?id=123118900

Rampant fucking lefties. Diversity and inclusion fanatics who slant reports to the benefit of the left, the Palestinians, LGBTQALPHABETTISPAGHETTI+ etc.

Nearly all TV news is shade of woke down here. Sky News being the exception whereas it's a nest of leftie vipers in London.

7 hours ago, royal white said:

I’m with John Ratcliife, it’s going to take years. Seeing first hand how the lazy fuckers work in the middle East those years could easily turn into decades. 
 

Im very confident it won’t be a few months. (Unfortunately for you) 

Can’t beat a bit of racial stereotyping, because none of this would apply to any people/parts of the UK for example would it 🙄.

“what’s pretty much a third world shit hole”

“how the lazy fuckers work in the Middle East”

8 hours ago, royal white said:

I’m with John Ratcliife, it’s going to take years. Seeing first hand how the lazy fuckers work in the middle East those years could easily turn into decades. 
 

Im very confident it won’t be a few months. (Unfortunately for you) 

Lazy fckers in the Middle East 😂 That’s RWs evidence. I think we’ll take  that as a yes then 👍

It wasn’t decades after all & he was talking out his arse as per. 
 

Unfortunately for me ? You’re really struggling to read my previous comments on this aren’t you 😄

 

Edited June 26, 2025Jun 26 by London Wanderer

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Rampant fucking lefties. Diversity and inclusion fanatics who slant reports to the benefit of the left, the Palestinians, LGBTQALPHABETTISPAGHETTI+ etc.

Nearly all TV news is shade of woke down here. Sky News being the exception whereas it's a nest of leftie vipers in London.

He’s gone 

Pray for Bolty 

24 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

He’s gone 

Pray for Bolty 

Looks like he’s finally had a fit. Tragic. What a way to go.

4 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Lazy fckers in the Middle East 😂 That’s RWs evidence. I think we’ll take  that as a yes then 👍

It wasn’t decades after all & he was talking out his arse as per. 
 

Unfortunately for me ? You’re really struggling to read my previous comments on this aren’t you 😄

 

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