the last shooting / things that go on in America thread has definitely dissappeared

anyway

not the "happy ending" you would have expected

https://twitter.com/i/events/1371972779893944327

Suspect arrested after eight people, including six Asian women, were killed at Atlanta-area spas

Eight people, including six Asian women, were killed in shootings at three different businesses in Atlanta and Acworth, Georgia, on Tuesday, according to local police. A male suspect was arrested and charged with several counts of murder on Wednesday, police said. At a press conference in Atlanta on Wednesday, authorities identified the four victims killed in Cherokee County.

 

Well, if nothing else it's good to know we've committed to spending 5% of GDP on defence

9 hours ago, Sweep said:

and a gravy boat full of luke warm maple syrup to liberally pour over the top of course

 

No. A Mackeson.

11 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Well, if nothing else it's good to know we've committed to spending 5% of GDP on defence

What a load of absolute gloop that is.

Spending to include projects that aren't military related, and not until 2035.

Starmer won't be around to see it through, and whichever government comes next will have massive decisions to make to achieve it. 

Huge cuts elsewhere, tax rises, virtually impossible growth- apart from the latter, any such actions will be met with derision by the opposition (likely to be Labour).

And the merry-go-round continues.

Doesn’t look like they set Iran’s nuclear capacity back as much as they’ve been boasting about. Depending on who you believe.

12 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What a load of absolute gloop that is.

Spending to include projects that aren't military related, and not until 2035.

Starmer won't be around to see it through, and whichever government comes next will have massive decisions to make to achieve it. 

Huge cuts elsewhere, tax rises, virtually impossible growth- apart from the latter, any such actions will be met with derision by the opposition (likely to be Labour).

And the merry-go-round continues.

Long way back from 14 years of fucking about and brexshit

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

Doesn’t look like they set Iran’s nuclear capacity back as much as they’ve been boasting about. Depending on who you believe.

If it becomes prominent once more they'll just twat em again.

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If it becomes prominent once more they'll just twat em again.

Who's they?

This isn't a binary discussion, despite what comes out of Trumps mouth at whatever moment of the day, but this is storing up more problems.

It would help a lot more in these kind of situations if Donald, his team and his press secretary didn't sound like North Korean news anchors whenever they made a statement. 

It's mega cringe.

11 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If it becomes prominent once more they'll just twat em again.

I don’t think they did twat them is the point

I think the European and NATO leaders have decided to just appease trump and hope the next 3 years pass relatively drama free.

Caveat - he’s done ok here.

Edited June 25, 2025Jun 25 by Spider

29 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I don’t think they did twat them is the point

They clearly did.

It wasn't Trump flying the plane.

It was an operation by the most advanced special forces on the planet with intelligence and weaponry like no other.

And if there's still some nuclear tackle there in the future they'll just do it again.

 

 

37 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Who's they?

This isn't a binary discussion, despite what comes out of Trumps mouth at whatever moment of the day, but this is storing up more problems.

Fuck are you talking about?

The US bombed Irans Nuclear sites.

If they have a pop at developing them again they'll do it again.

Is that binary enough?

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They clearly did.

It wasn't Trump flying the plane.

It was an operation by the most advanced special forces on the planet with intelligence and weaponry like no other.

And if there's still some nuclear tackle there in the future they'll just do it again.

 

 

The leaked US intelligence report suggests they had limited impact.

Only set them back a few months. 

That'll be those special forces heading in every few months then 😄

2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Doesn’t look like they set Iran’s nuclear capacity back as much as they’ve been boasting about. Depending on who you believe.

I’ll believe the reports saying they have done a lot of damage 

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Fuck are you talking about?

The US bombed Irans Nuclear sites.

If they have a pop at developing them again they'll do it again.

Is that binary enough?

Yes it is binary.

Why now? 

Do you really think this is going to help in the long run? Because I'm damn sure it won't and we're just pushing another issue into an much larger one.

I thought you were brighter then this.

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ll believe the reports saying they have done a lot of damage 

I'm sure they did cause a lot of damage. Define what a lot of damage means in reality though?  

Still doesn't mean they've set them back that much, or that Iran can't fix it. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

"The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defence Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm"

Seems a pretty reliable source no? 

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

 

I thought you were brighter then this.

Stop it 😂

Just now, London Wanderer said:

I'm sure they did cause a lot of damage. Define what a lot of damage means in reality though?  

Still doesn't mean they've set them back that much, or that Iran can't fix it. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/intel-assessment-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites

"The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defence Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm"

Seems a pretty reliable source no? 

Id say this is as reliable.
 

 

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Id say this is as reliable.
 

 

I don't expect anything different from the CIA press release to be honest. They're not going to admit otherwise. 

The one I posted was done by  US intelligence as well. They would have wanted to prove more damage was done. There won't be a hidden agenda in the evidence they provided, just an honest review.

Time will tell on this one.  

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I don't expect anything different from the CIA press release to be honest. They're not going to admit otherwise. 

The one I posted was done by  US intelligence as well. They would have wanted to prove more damage was done. There won't be a hidden agenda in the evidence they provided, just an honest review.

Time will tell on this one.  

You’re just dying for it to be a failure aren’t you 😂

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Stop it 😂

Listen I've just had to see Quadrophenia the ballet - I'm well in to annoy people 😁

We all just pick who we want to believe nowadays don't we? What a disappointing state of affairs eh? 

I very much expect Donald has been on the phone to this fella asking for a statement as a favour.

Although this is always going to be a suspicion when you appoint a partisan to a technical/quasi independent role and they come out in support of you. 

I suppose we'll know who is right if Tel Aviv hasn't been reduced to an irradiated, post apocalyptic hellscape by September 😁

19 minutes ago, royal white said:

You’re just dying for it to be a failure aren’t you 😂

Haha

 Is that the best you’ve got ? 😉 
 

I’m not trying to argue to be honest, neither do I want Iran to have nuclear weapons. You’ll see a post from me saying credit where it’s due a day or two back. 
 

I’m just pointing out that it’s a credible intelligence report suggesting it hasn’t been set back in the way we’ve been told. 

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

You’re just dying for it to be a failure aren’t you 😂

Personally I'd be happy for a few million people to be incinerated and millions more to die from radiation poisoning AND risk world war three, if it meant I could have a few moments of smug satisfaction on a football forum! ✌️😁

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Haha

 Is that the best you’ve got ? 😉 
 

I’m not trying to argue to be honest, neither do I want Iran to have nuclear weapons. You’ll see a post from me saying credit where it’s due a day or two back. 
 

I’m just pointing out that it’s a credible intelligence report suggesting it hasn’t been set back in the way we’ve been told. 

And we’ve also been told to wait for the more honest in depth reports…..but oh no here you are. 🙄