Meanwhile In America

[CambridgeBWFC]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

He's set himself a target of September to find out the cause of it

Thought he already knew it was the fluoride in the water and vaccines? 

 

[royal white]

19 minutes ago, Bertie said:

RFK this week:

"Autism destroys families, and more importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which is our children…. These are kids who will never pay taxes, they'll never hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a toilet unassisted."

Jesus wept.  What an ignorant moron.  And he’s in charge of US health. The current US political leadership is rammed with people who are both unqualified for their roles and don’t realise how stupid they are. A dangerous combination.

 

What qualifications do you need for that role? 

[Bertie]

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

What qualifications do you need for that role? 

What do you think? 🙄.  Do you think RFK is suitably qualified?

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, Bertie said:

What do you think? 🙄.  Do you think RFK is suitably qualified?

You shouldn’t answer a question with  question. If you don’t know just say. 

[Bertie]

Speaks the master.  You don’t half make things hard work.  Ok I’ll play on this one. Are you really trying to dispute the fact that guy is an unqualified dangerous clown though?? 

I’ve worked in pharmaceutical and clinical research for over 30 years.  Without bragging I know how new medicines are developed and the importance of evidence-based, data-driven decision making in this process. I understand a fair bit about the physiological basis of diseases and how there can be an interplay between genetic and environmental factors.  The most important thing I learned though was that subject matter experts/specialists in the 3 pillars of drug development (toxicological, medical and pharmaceutical) are crucial and should be listened to.

So, back on RFK - he had no/little personal knowledge in any of these areas and chooses not to listen to experts or believe peer-reviewed data and knowledge.  In fact with DOGE he’s overseen thousands of redundancies in FDA which could compromise their ability to oversee the regulation of new safe and efficacious medicines development. He latches onto debunked conspiracy theories and promotes them to the detriment of public health.

In summary therefore I hope you agree he is an unqualified and dangerous moron.

Sorry if I sound like a pompous knob with this reply - not intended, but you did ask.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

21 minutes ago, Bertie said:

What do you think? 🙄.  Do you think RFK is suitably qualified?

It's not a good read that is it!

Can sort of get the point he's making- a condition that can be so severe as to limit an individual's potential- but, as seems so typical, it's an incredibly coarse, over generalised comment, seemingly showing a degree of ignorance not becoming of someone in such a position. 

The qualification point is irrelevant- some basic humanity and willingness to learn might be a good place to start.

[Bertie]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's not a good read that is it!

Can sort of get the point he's making- a condition that can be so severe as to limit an individual's potential- but, as seems so typical, it's an incredibly coarse, over generalised comment, seemingly showing a degree of ignorance not becoming of someone in such a position. 

The qualification point is irrelevant- some basic humanity and willingness to learn might be a good place to start.

Great last paragraph in particular 👍

[Spider]

Matt Le Tissier

Hes an expert

[frank_spencer]

Ideally I'd like the health secretary to have some medical knowledge. Especially given Biden's pick didn't and the republicans weren't happy with that fact.

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Speaks the master.  You don’t half make things hard work.  Ok I’ll play on this one. Are you really trying to dispute the fact that guy is an unqualified dangerous clown though?? 

I’ve worked in pharmaceutical and clinical research for over 30 years.  Without bragging I know how new medicines are developed and the importance of evidence-based, data-driven decision making in this process. I understand a fair bit about the physiological basis of diseases and how there can be an interplay between genetic and environmental factors.  The most important thing I learned though was that subject matter experts/specialists in the 3 pillars of drug development (toxicological, medical and pharmaceutical) are crucial and should be listened to.

So, back on RFK - he had no/little personal knowledge in any of these areas and chooses not to listen to experts or believe peer-reviewed data and knowledge.  In fact with DOGE he’s overseen thousands of redundancies in FDA which could compromise their ability to oversee the regulation of new safe and efficacious medicines development. He latches onto debunked conspiracy theories and promotes them to the detriment of public health.

In summary therefore I hope you agree he is an unqualified and dangerous moron.

Sorry if I sound like a pompous knob with this reply - not intended, but you did ask.

Ok so looking at Wes Streeting Bio. What qualifies him to be the health minister for the UK? I brought up a similar point the other year when the tories were changing head of departments every other week. One minute we had some head of eductation then a few weeks later they might find themselves head of transport. They had no qualifications for either. Looking at your post you might be more qualified than both RFK and WS. 
 

The point is many of those in government positions don’t appear to have any experience or qualifications in their designated areas.

Edited April 19, 2025 by royal white

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Ideally I'd like the health secretary to have some medical knowledge. Especially given Biden's pick didn't and the republicans weren't happy with that fact.

Wes Streeting appears to have absolutely no medical/health qualifications. 

Seems to have studied history, and has had various shadow positions. 

Not actually very common to have senior ministers of state specifically qualified in their area.

Positions are largely of senior managerial responsibility: budgets, efficiency, people etc.

Much of the expertise is supplied by advisers and senior civil servants.

Nevertheless, you would expect them to have an ability to grasp certain issues more fully, before commenting on them, which this bloke (American) doesn't seem to have.

On the other hand, Streeting does seem to have a passion for the role, with some desire to implement change for the better, showing some understanding of issues that arise en route.

Edited April 19, 2025 by Tonge moor green jacket

[Bertie]

52 minutes ago, royal white said:

Ok so looking at Wes Streeting Bio. What qualifies him to be the health minister for the UK? I brought up a similar point the other year when the tories were changing head of departments every other week. One minute we had some head of eductation then a few weeks later they might find themselves head of transport. They had no qualifications for either. Looking at your post you might be more qualified than both RFK and WS. 
 

The point is many of those in government positions don’t appear to have any experience or qualifications in their designated areas.

Some great points here which I genuinely agree with.  Whilst my response was about RFK, the principles apply to all leadership roles.  Ideally secretaries of states should have a background in their area (eg finance/economics for the chancellor seems a must) but if not then as TMGJ says they should have (i) good critical thinking & decision making skills,  (ii) ask questions of and listen to answers from experts in the field and importantly (iii) show passion/compassion in their primary duty of public service.  Sadly I doubt many politicians the world over tick all the boxes, just not sure RFK ticks any. 

Edited April 19, 2025 by Bertie

[Cheese]

 

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, royal white said:

The point is many of those in government positions don’t appear to have any experience or qualifications in their designated areas.

Maybe so but do they brag?

[e2e4]

wouldnt have thought donald's extra special country to country value added tax would bring down the head gargoyle of the World Economic Forum . 

but he fuckin did it. 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

87 year old.

Not sure the Don had anything to do with it.

Interestingly, he had announced his departure earlier, with no specified date.

Then suddenly, gone with immediate effect. 

More likely seen the pope yesterday and gone today, and thought fuck that for a game of soldiers. 

[London Wanderer]

On 19/04/2025 at 22:32, Cheese said:

 

Very good

[deeane Koontz]

 

[deeane Koontz]

Just seen another video with a load of folk hanging from the masts. That's  enough Internet for the day

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Just seen another video with a load of folk hanging from the masts. That's  enough Internet for the day

I was wondering how it had killed people. 

We're some actually up the masts then?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I was wondering how it had killed people. 

We're some actually up the masts then?

It looks like it was some kind of performance

[Cheese]

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It looks like it was some kind of performance

Mexican Navy training ship. The sailors were "manning the yards" as all Naval tall-ship crews do when they're docking or passing through a port. It's a traditional show of respect. The boat lost power when it was maneuvering, and the Captain couldn't stop it. Tragic accident.

Edited May 18, 2025 by Cheese

[gonzo]

Stop the boats.

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It looks like it was some kind of performance

They do it everywhere they go. They did it in Sydney. The crew all on display on deck and on the crosstrees.

A hard watch. Watching them fall brought back memories of those poor souls dropping from the twin towers.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 hours ago, gonzo said:

Stop the boats.

Smash the masts.