Meanwhile In England

[bolty58]

13 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'll remind you of that next time we're discussing bombs hitting schools in Gaza

..as long as you include something on who was hiding in them.

[Farrelli]

19 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'll remind you of that next time we're discussing bombs hitting schools in Gaza

Yes I made the same point earlier. What about the thousands of kids blown to pieces in Gaza by radical Jews?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'll remind you of that next time we're discussing bombs hitting schools in Gaza

I was thinking about this, and was expecting this reply. 

The initial sentence was a subtle one though.

".. wanting to kill kids.."

Important difference. 

One lot a military force targeting enemy,  terrorist sites in a war. 

One a terrorist specifically targeting children.

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I was thinking about this, and was expecting this reply. 

The initial sentence was a subtle one though.

".. wanting to kill kids.."

Important difference. 

One lot a military force targeting enemy,  terrorist sites in a war. 

One a terrorist specifically targeting children.

Really? I also think an important difference is the numbers. Several thousand children versus three. One is a country the other an individual with serious mental health problems. 

[royal white]

10 hours ago, kent_white said:

I'll remind you of that next time we're discussing bombs hitting schools in Gaza

If you show me evidence of Israelis (or Brits, Americans, Germans etc) targeting schools just to kill kids then I will agree. 

[royal white]

10 hours ago, Farrelli said:

Yes I made the same point earlier. What about the thousands of kids blown to pieces in Gaza by radical Jews?

To even compare the two is a bit pathetic, but expected. 

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Farrelli said:

Really? I also think an important difference is the numbers. Several thousand children versus three. One is a country the other an individual with serious mental health problems. 

Why do you keep addressing his MH problems? Would you do the same if discussing Fred west? Ian Huntley? Yorkshire ripper? 

[kent_white]

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

If you show me evidence of Israelis (or Brits, Americans, Germans etc) targeting schools just to kill kids then I will agree. 

See you're backtracking a little now which is a shame. I agreed with you first time around. 

[royal white]

Just now, kent_white said:

See you're backtracking a little now which is a shame. I agreed with you first time around. 

Backtracking about what?

[deeane Koontz]

Killing kids is killing kids.

[kent_white]

Just now, royal white said:

Backtracking about what?

Backtracking from your statement that people who kill kids are mentally ill.

You've put a caveat in now saying that it's only people who go out with the express intention of killing kids who are always mentally ill. 

Which I think now makes your position that it's alright to kill kids, providing that you're sound of mind and that you are trying to kill someone else? 

[DazBob]

18 hours ago, royal white said:

 

 

See, I like Peter Lloyd, if only for his appearance on Sky News with that feminist.

... but tweets like that are dangerous.

To just say "Islam" was the cause is far too simplistic and stirs up hatred towards all Muslims.  The vast, vast majority of which are peaceful.

 

Hopefully, if the killer has been radicalised, rather than just being a lone-wolf nutter, the police can find out by who/when/where, etc.

Edited October 30 by DazBob

[royal white]

Just now, kent_white said:

Backtracking from your statement that people who kill kids are mentally ill.

You've put a caveat in now saying that it's only people who go out with the express intention of killing kids who are always mentally ill. 

Which I think now makes your position that it's alright to kill kids, providing that you're sound of mind and that you are trying to kill someone else? 

💯 they are. Are Israelis, or any nationality at war targeting kids on purpose. When that bomb hits a school (in most cases a shelter or command posts for the bad guys) do you think the person firing it knows what it’s hitting? 

 

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

💯 they are. Are Israelis, or any nationality at war targeting kids on purpose. When that bomb hits a school (in most cases a shelter or command posts for the bad guys) do you think the person firing it knows what it’s hitting? 

 

Yes I think the Israelis know they are hitting schools. And they are hitting schools intentionally. 

Whether the poor fucker pressing the button understands what they're firing at is less certain. 

So to clarify, your position is that providing you're trying to kill some 'bad guys' - hitting schools (and killing kids) is fine and this doesn't mean you're mentally ill. But if you are hitting schools with no bad guys in it, then you are always mentally ill? 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Yes I think the Israelis know they are hitting schools. And they are hitting schools intentionally. 

Whether the poor fucker pressing the button understands what they're firing at is less certain. 

So to clarify, your position is that providing you're trying to kill some 'bad guys' - hitting schools (and killing kids) is fine and this doesn't mean you're mentally ill. But if you are hitting schools with no bad guys in it, then you are always mentally ill? 

 

for what reason would you attack a school with no bad guys in it if you’re not mentally ill? 

There’s a strong chance those schools are command posts and are harbouring terrorists that are likely to kill you. If someone is after killing you in a time of war there’s a strong chance you will retaliate, I’d say that’s more human nature than mental health. 
 

So which Israeli is it with the mental health problem when a school gets hit? @Farrelli has blamed the whole government, who are you blaming? 

The fact I’m having this conversation is baffling. 

[kent_white]

9 minutes ago, royal white said:

 

for what reason would you attack a school with no bad guys in it if you’re not mentally ill? 

There’s a strong chance those schools are command posts and are harbouring terrorists that are likely to kill you. If someone is after killing you in a time of war there’s a strong chance you will retaliate, I’d say that’s more human nature than mental health. 
 

So which Israeli is it with the mental health problem when a school gets hit? @Farrelli has blamed the whole government, who are you blaming? 

The fact I’m having this conversation is baffling. 

I don't know why it's baffling to you. It's your point! 😁

In answer to your question - you might (wrongly in my opinion) consider that attacking a school full of children is legitimised providing it furthers your broader strategic aims. 

I'd argue that this shows a level of psychopathy by whoever is doing the attacking. And psychopathy is a mental illness using DSM-V. 

Therefore - I think anybody attacking a school full of children (regardless of the cause) is mentally ill. 

You seemed to be agreeing with this at first. But then changed tack. You probably misspoke - it's not the end of the world.

[royal white]

6 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I don't know why it's baffling to you. It's your point! 😁

In answer to your question - you might (wrongly in my opinion) consider that attacking a school full of children is legitimised providing it furthers your broader strategic aims. 

I'd argue that this shows a level of psychopathy by whoever is doing the attacking. And psychopathy is a mental illness using DSM-V. 

Therefore - I think anybody attacking a school full of children (regardless of the cause) is mentally ill. 

You seemed to be agreeing with this at first. But then changed tack. You probably misspoke - it's not the end of the world.

 

So, let’s try again then, who is the psychopath with the MH problem? 
 

If you and your family were constantly being fired at from a school, mosque, church, hospital, whatever building the bad guys were using, what would you want your military to do? 
 

Theres a massive difference between protecting lives and going into schools chopping people up for the fun of it. 

 

 

[athywhite1958]

24 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I don't know why it's baffling to you. It's your point! 😁

In answer to your question - you might (wrongly in my opinion) consider that attacking a school full of children is legitimised providing it furthers your broader strategic aims. 

I'd argue that this shows a level of psychopathy by whoever is doing the attacking. And psychopathy is a mental illness using DSM-V. 

Therefore - I think anybody attacking a school full of children (regardless of the cause) is mentally ill. 

You seemed to be agreeing with this at first. But then changed tack. You probably misspoke - it's not the end of the world.

Or just plain evil

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

See you're backtracking a little now which is a shame. I agreed with you first time around. 

RW will soon find a tangent to get out of the cul de sac he has driven himself  into😅 

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said:

Killing kids is killing kids.

Of course. But there's a worldwide common denominator in many cases.

Can't just ignore that.

 

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

RW will soon find a tangent to get out of the cul de sac he has driven himself  into😅 

You’ve blamed a full goverment of being child killers with mental health problems. Do you think before posting? 

[bolty58]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

You’ve blamed a full goverment of being child killers with mental health problems. Do you think before posting? 

No because he has mental health problems. Clearly.

[kent_white]

33 minutes ago, royal white said:

 

So, let’s try again then, who is the psychopath with the MH problem? 
 

If you and your family were constantly being fired at from a school, mosque, church, hospital, whatever building the bad guys were using, what would you want your military to do? 
 

Theres a massive difference between protecting lives and going into schools chopping people up for the fun of it. 

 

 

I've answered this one already. Anybody knowingly launching bombs into a school full of children is a psychopath, and by extension has a mental health problem. 

And given the scenario you've outlined above - I'd want my military to show a hell of a lot more restraint and not be launching bombs into schools. Largely because it makes the problem worse in the long term and I don't like dead kids. 

But you're obfuscating again. 

[Traf]

It can't be right that it is being accepted to bomb a school full of kids in the hope of killing one member of Hamas.

[deeane Koontz]

21 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Of course. But there's a worldwide common denominator in many cases.

Can't just ignore that.

 

Not in terms of numbers. Unless some kids lives are of more worth than others.