6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

Just now, Cheese said:

Because I'd like to understand why people are interested in knowing how many asylum seekers are in their town (presumably because they're a drain on society?), but not how many benefit claimants there are.

It’s whataboutery

And you hate that normally.

Just saying, like.

34 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Why not? Why do people want to know how many asylum seekers are in their town?

'cos they're weird, and they want something to complain about.

45 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s whataboutery

And you hate that normally.

Just saying, like.

So you don't know either.

Just now, Cheese said:

So you don't know either.

I’m wondering why you’re indulging in whataboutery.

Something you are the first to leap on others for.

It’s ok to be inconsistent. For some.

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’m wondering why you’re indulging in whataboutery.

Something you are the first to leap on others for.

It’s ok to be inconsistent. For some.

Sometimes you have to invoke other issues to understand the reason people are concerned about another one. Do people want to know how many Asylum seeker are in their town because they're a drain on resources? If so, why shouldn't they also be told how many benefits claimants there are? Or is there another reason for them wanting to know how many Asylum seekers are in their town? It's a genuine question. I don't know why you're getting all defensive and uppity about it. If you don't know, just say you don't know, or ignore me.

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Classic Cheese

At least we can now consign whataboutery to the WWays skip.

A shame, but we move on.

 

54 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Because I'd like to understand why people are interested in knowing how many asylum seekers are in their town (presumably because they're a drain on society?), but not how many benefit claimants there are.

I think they do.

There's various reports about such things if you care to look.

You've actually also had debates on here the subject numerous times, usually playing the situation down.

The welfare state is a massive drain on the country, poverty is massive issue. Tipping thousands of migrants in on top of that can't be good can it.

We already have enough problems.

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Classic Cheese

At least we can now consign whataboutery to the WWays skip.

A shame, but we move on.

 

Deary me. Is that the best you've got? What's happened to you in the last few days? Well below your normal standard.

Just now, gonzo said:

I think they do.

There's various reports about such things if you care to look.

You've actually also had debates on here the subject numerous times, usually playing the situation down.

The welfare state is a massive drain on the country, poverty is massive issue. Tipping thousands of migrants in on top of that can't be good can it.

We already have enough problems.

So they should release the number of benefit claimants in towns then. Why only the migrant figures?

Just now, Cheese said:

So they should release the number of benefit claimants in towns then. Why only the migrant figures?

They do.

A brief search says its quite a discussed topic in the news.

 

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They do.

A brief search says its quite a discussed topic in the news.

 

Exactly how many benefit claimants are there in Blackpool then? Have Sky News released a web page where you can enter the name of your town and get an exact figure?

Once again, I suspect you are missing the point.

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5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Exactly how many benefit claimants are there in Blackpool then? Have Sky News released a web page where you can enter the name of your town and get an exact figure?

Once again, I suspect you are missing the point.

5,670

There were numerous reports on the figures a few months ago.

Claimant figures rise on Fylde coast as Jobcentre releases latest data with more young people out of work https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/claimant-figures-rise-on-fylde-coast-as-jobcentre-releases-latest-data-with-more-young-people-out-of-work-5045367

You said nobody is interested in such figures and only asylum figures but I've just provided about 30 recent articles about the figures.

 

8 hours ago, royal white said:

The obsession is weird. 

Not quite an obsession love. You’ve made separate comments about me before, without us being in discussion. It’s perfectly normal on here 😁

 You and Cheese love calling people liars. Two peas in a pod. 

8 minutes ago, gonzo said:

5,670

There were numerous reports on the figures a few months ago.

Claimant figures rise on Fylde coast as Jobcentre releases latest data with more young people out of work https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/claimant-figures-rise-on-fylde-coast-as-jobcentre-releases-latest-data-with-more-young-people-out-of-work-5045367

You said nobody is interested in such figures and only asylum figures but I've just provided about 30 recent articles about the figures.

A proper reply. 👍 So benefit claimants in blackpool massively outnumber the Asylum seekers. Yet everyone is flapping about the latter, and don't seem to be arsed about the former. 🤔 Why isn't there a Sky News web page that allows you to search for benefit claimant figures?

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1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

Not quite an obsession love. You’ve made separate comments about me before, without us being in discussion. It’s perfectly normal on here 😁

 You and Cheese love calling people liars. Two peas in a pod. 

I called Spider a liar yesterday because he said he'd DM me some proof of something, then didn't. I don't think I've called anyone else a liar. 🤷‍♂️

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

A proper reply. So benefit claimants in blackpool massively outnumber the Asylum seekers. Yet everyone is flapping about the latter, and don't seem to be arsed about the former. 🤔 Why isn't there a Sky News web page that allows you to search for benefit claimant figures?

You'd have to ask news. Maybe because it's an absolutely humongous problem that's getting bigger by the day and has been front page of every paper and news outlet for weeks on end.

Im sure there's been similar reports on Sky News where they highlight the amount of claimants in each area if you care to look.

There were was one the other week where they ranked child poverty.

I notice these charts quite a lot as Blackpool is normally top of the league.

Hence my point. In a town with so much poverty why on earth would anyone think it ok to put growing numbers of migrants in to mix. Social service, NHS and property are already at breaking point.

All with the backdrop of a tourism economy trying to make money.

The country is already on its arse. Hotels and HMOs full of migrants isn't going to help the situation only to make it worse.

As for folk 'flapping' about benefit claimants. They do.

They just don't form protests outside houses on johnny fow full of pip claimants.

Remember when you downplayed all that too? 

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

As for folk 'flapping' about benefit claimants. They do.

They just don't form protests outside houses on johnny fow full of pip claimants.

Remember when you downplayed all that too? 

No, I don't remember that.

Why don't they form protests about benefit claimants, but they do form protests about migrants?

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No, I don't remember that.

Why don't they form protests about benefit claimants, but they do form protests about migrants?

I said the welfare state is out of control and we went round in circles for 3 weeks which involved you asking me repeatedly if I'd reported benefit cheats to the police. 

Standard

Why don't they form protests about benefit claimants, but they do form protests about migrants?

Because that's how populism works right?

People latch on to it. The problem snowballs out of control and it becomes an us vs them mentality.

Just like BLM or any other wave of country wide protest/movement.

It's front page news, it's the first thing anyone talks about. 

At the base of it the problem is still there. The optics of it are terrible also.

I'm not protesting. I think if your going to cause aggro at an asylum centre you've got something wrong with you.

But it's major problem no matter how much it's hijacked by nobs or folk with Populist agendas.

Farage and rioters aren't causing the migration crisis. That's happening.

They just feed from it.

59 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I called Spider a liar yesterday because he said he'd DM me some proof of something, then didn't. I don't think I've called anyone else a liar. 🤷‍♂️

🙋‍♂️

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

🙋‍♂️

Liar.

57 minutes ago, Cheese said:

No, I don't remember that.

Why don't they form protests about benefit claimants, but they do form protests about migrants?

Probably because they were born here and are therefore perceived to be 'our problem' - as opposed to an 'imported problem' in the case of asylum seekers. 

That would be my guess.

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

No, I don't remember that.

Why don't they form protests about benefit claimants, but they do form protests about migrants?

Prob Cause its the 

Benefits Claimants 

Protesting about 

The Migrants 

Bloody foreigners, coming over here taking our job...seeker allowances

So then, who was lying with the HMO valuation ?

Did we actually find out 🤔 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Deary me. Is that the best you've got? What's happened to you in the last few days? Well below your normal standard.

All ive done is point out that your own high standards are slipping.

Whataboutery is something you deride and mock, yet here you are, doing just that.

Ive held a mirror up to you, and your fanny has gone all out of kilter.

Prickly cheese.