6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

8 hours ago, Dimron said:

I'll go back to Brown's Golden Rules which were weaponised by Osborne resulting in Austerity which disaffected the population...Brexit was two fingers up to the system fuelled by Farage.

We now have Austerity again under the Reeves banner, so many becoming pissed off and ready to stick it up the politico again and guess who's there... now a Rt Hon Member

Austerity never went away, and if anything it's being slowly reversed by Reeves. It's not her fault they've got 14 years of shite to clean up at the same time.

16 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Austerity never went away, and if anything it's being slowly reversed by Reeves. It's not her fault they've got 14 years of shite to clean up -plus one year of their own, at the same time.

 

9 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

plus one year of their own 

Exactly. ONE year. The level of criticism is a bit ridiculous really innit? As far as I can tell, things are already slowly getting better.

Would you give Farage ONE year to fix everything?

Edited August 25, 2025Aug 25 by Cheese

As I have said on numerous occasions they are ALL as bad as each other, I don't like any of them, for the past year I have been paying £250 per month income tax on a pension I worked 35 years to build up, this did not happen previously, this is just one reason to not like Labour, my own opinion.

1 minute ago, athywhite1958 said:

 for the past year I have been paying £250 per month income tax on a pension I worked 35 years to build up, this did not happen previously, this is just one reason to not like Labour, my own opinion.

Really?

Just now, athywhite1958 said:

As I have said on numerous occasions they are ALL as bad as each other, I don't like any of them, for the past year I have been paying £250 per month income tax on a pension I worked 35 years to build up, this did not happen previously, this is just one reason to not like Labour, my own opinion.

Didn't you only retire a few months ago?

28 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Austerity never went away, and if anything it's being slowly reversed by Reeves. It's not her fault they've got 14 years of shite to clean up at the same time.

Tbf I don't think they have dropped their manifesto promises but are finding it very difficult to deliver, especially with the distractions of Trump and Eastern Europe... if I was in the hot seat I'd back off with the international diplomacy  stuff a bit and get to grips with immigration and costs of living (I think the orange one told him something similar). 

I still hope the present incumbents will make a go of it but they need to drop this slavish commitment  of "we'll only do it when we can afford it"... sometimes it needs that leap of faith

2 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Tbf I don't think they have dropped their manifesto promises but are finding it very difficult to deliver, especially with the distractions of Trump and Eastern Europe... if I was in the hot seat I'd back off with the international diplomacy  stuff a bit and get to grips with immigration and costs of living (I think the orange one told him something similar). 

I still hope the present incumbents will make a go of it but they need to drop this slavish commitment  of "we'll only do it when we can afford it"... sometimes it needs that leap of faith

There's absolutely no doubting it's a difficult job. I'd rather folk like Starmer and Reeves were dealing with it than Farage and Tice, or any of the last lot.

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

There's absolutely no doubting it's a difficult job. I'd rather folk like Starmer and Reeves were dealing with it than Farage and Tice, or any of the last lot.

The Country is broken if I compare it the one I have known most of my life.

BUT... I don't believe we will be saved by some Messiah like Locinvar riding over the horizon on his white horse or a specific political party with a fixed parliamentary term. I now have zero faith in Westminster politics and believe our national government needs reinventing and possibly relocating to the midlands.

Somehow we need people to properly engage and improve their local communities but social media just appears to inflame resentments rather than sensibly discuss and better them.

Devolution of power with the central government setting policies is the way forward in my opinion. I also want more parties in whatever parliament we end up with, Greens, Liberal Dems, Reform, Corbyns, Tories, Labour rather than a 2 sided left and right shouting match.

Starmer and Reeves. Hmm.

An economic disaster in 12 months.

Bond yields significantly higher than under a certain Truss, yet barely a whimper.

Some economists warning that without an immediate change of course, we could be heading for an IMF bailout. 

Everything going in the wrong direction.

As ever, whoever gets the next term will start making swinging cuts to save money.

Then folk will get fed up of the cuts, and the cycle will continue.

All because so many senior politicians simply haven't got the strength to deal quickly with the bleeding obvious.

Last lot were kicked out because of the same issues, yet the replacements who shouted accusatory across the dispatch floor have taken it to a whole new level of shit.

Farage will be loving every minute of it.

9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Last lot were kicked out because of the same issues, yet the replacements who shouted accusatory across the dispatch floor have taken it to a whole new level of shit.

I'd like to think the last lot got kicked out for their attitude towards brexit, then covid in terms of the contempt for the rules and the profiteering, then the shambles that followed in terms of leadership as they tore themselves apart

reckon labour have got a long way to go to match them

 

 

11 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

All because so many senior politicians simply haven't got the strength to deal quickly with the bleeding obvious.

So obvious no credible polition can get their head round it

Crank

1 minute ago, Zico said:

I'd like to think the last lot got kicked out for their attitude towards brexit, then covid in terms of the contempt for the rules and the profiteering, then the shambles that followed in terms of leadership as they tore themselves apart

reckon labour have got a long way to go to match them

 

 

How would chat gpt run the country?

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

I'd like to think the last lot got kicked out for their attitude towards brexit, then covid in terms of the contempt for the rules and the profiteering, then the shambles that followed in terms of leadership as they tore themselves apart

reckon labour have got a long way to go to match them

 

 

#nuance

Just now, Dimron said:

How would chat gpt run the country?

It would fuck off braverman, truss, jrm, patel and jenrick, i reckon

Just now, Casino said:

It would fuck off braverman, truss, jrm, patel and jenrick, i reckon

Maybe we should just install an AI government... even artificial intelligence would better than none at all

3 minutes ago, Dimron said:

How would chat gpt run the country?

I'd certainly be open to giving it a chance

it would probably improve the standard of Starmer's tweets massively

37 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Starmer and Reeves. Hmm.

An economic disaster in 12 months.

Bond yields significantly higher than under a certain Truss, yet barely a whimper.

Some economists warning that without an immediate change of course, we could be heading for an IMF bailout. 

Everything going in the wrong direction.

As ever, whoever gets the next term will start making swinging cuts to save money.

Then folk will get fed up of the cuts, and the cycle will continue.

All because so many senior politicians simply haven't got the strength to deal quickly with the bleeding obvious.

Last lot were kicked out because of the same issues, yet the replacements who shouted accusatory across the dispatch floor have taken it to a whole new level of shit.

Farage will be loving every minute of it.

How would you deal with "the bleeding obvious", whatever that is?

1 hour ago, Casino said:

It would fuck off braverman, truss, jrm, patel and jenrick, i reckon

We didn't need chatgpt to fuck jrm and truss off. Voters did it for us. 

7 hours ago, Dimron said:

How are things in the British Virgin Isles Mr Cox?

Sadly for cox, not too many virgins around.

2 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

We didn't need chatgpt to fuck jrm and truss off. Voters did it for us. 

Mentioning those two with the multiplicity of utter failures within the current government?

Reeves will make you grieve.

15 hours ago, Casino said:

Really?

Yes

15 hours ago, Cheese said:

Didn't you only retire a few months ago?

Yes, in June, I now take home £1400 less per month than when I was working

1 minute ago, athywhite1958 said:

Yes, in June, I now take home £1400 less per month than when I was working

But you said you've been paying £250 a month extra income tax on a pension you've been drawing for the past year? And Labour haven't made any changes to income tax anyway. You seem a bit confused.

Did you think your pension would be the same as your working salary?

16 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

As I have said on numerous occasions they are ALL as bad as each other, I don't like any of them, for the past year I have been paying £250 per month income tax on a pension I worked 35 years to build up, this did not happen previously, this is just one reason to not like Labour, my own opinion.

 

27 minutes ago, Cheese said:

But you said you've been paying £250 a month extra income tax on a pension you've been drawing for the past year? And Labour haven't made any changes to income tax anyway. You seem a bit confused.

Did you think your pension would be the same as your working salary?

I'm not sure that's exactly what he said........... but what he did say didn't really make any sense at all

As you say, I'm not sure anything that Labour have done in their 12 months, would have had a £3000 a year loss to his income. 

Unless I'm reading it all wrong, which I may well be doing