6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

 

Glad you both agree that our Police force isn't working and needs funding properly. 12 years of being cut to the bone is bound to cripple any Public Service.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. It wouldn’t matter if there’s an extra 50k coppers they will still stand there like melons for certain groups when tougher policing (which I said) would work much better. 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. It wouldn’t matter if there’s an extra 50k coppers they will still stand there like melons for certain groups when tougher policing (which I said) would work much better. 

Well your lot have had over a decade to sort it. 🤷‍♂️

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Well your lot have had over a decade to sort it. 🤷‍♂️

My lot 😂😂

15 minutes ago, royal white said:

My lot 😂😂

Ah, you're backing away from them now. I get it. 😉

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Ah, you're backing away from them now. I get it. 😉

Who is them? Which one of my lot writes out policing procedures, ROEs etc? 

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Who is them? Which one of my lot writes out policing procedures, ROEs etc? 

Always someone elses fault. 😉

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Always someone elses fault. 😉

As I thought. Utterly clueless 😂

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

As I thought. Utterly clueless 😂

"I didn't vote for Boris, honest". 😉

We need tougher policing. 
 

How the fuck have you managed to get to Boris from that? 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

We need tougher policing. 
 

How the fuck have you managed to get to Boris from that? 

Thought you were a big Boris fan? His Party have been in Government for 12 years....

Just now, Cheese said:

Thought you were a big Boris fan? His Party have been in Government for 12 years....

You don’t vote for the person you vote for the party, even you know that. Which one of Boris’s lot wrote the police procedures, AO, ROEs etc. 

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

You don’t vote for the person you vote for the party, even you know that. Which one of Boris’s lot wrote the police procedures, AO, ROEs etc. 

The point remains - they've had 12 years. Who do you think should write those procedures and policies?

Just now, Cheese said:

The point remains - they've had 12 years. Who do you think should write those procedures and policies?

Seriously how the fuck have you come to this? The police do some great jobs everyday throughout the country no one comes on here and says “that’s because of Boris” it’s a weird obsession, cult like. 

19 minutes ago, royal white said:

Seriously how the fuck have you come to this? The police do some great jobs everyday throughout the country no one comes on here and says “that’s because of Boris” it’s a weird obsession, cult like. 

Because we've had 12 years of a Government you've lauded, yet you clearly think they've done a terrible job regarding Policing. So who do you think should write the procedures and policies for our Police?

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Because we've had 12 years of a Government you've lauded, yet you clearly think they've done a terrible job regarding Policing. So who do you think should write the procedures and policies for our Police?

The question was to you. Who writes them, it’s ok if you don’t know you can just say. If a copper is stood there like a melon looking at protestors, or being pushed  about by other protestors it’s fuck all to do with whoever is in charge of the country.

 

Anyway @Carlos who was the bloke who was stabbed and why did he deserve more? I’m guessing he’s a not right? 

The issue with the last 12 years of Tory government is that they've allowed the ridiculous gesturing and non-crimes etc to pervade throughout policing. 

As they have throughout the public sector, and civil service.

Also creeping into private industry. 

A reflection of society as a whole. 

Strange thing is, if they clamped down on it, similarly with the boats etc, then the usual suspects would be screaming the usual. 

"...ist this and ...ist that".

Before the change of colour of government these sorts of problems were far less of an issue, though maybe the seeds had already been sown.

 

https://reduxx.info/sussex-police-scold-women-on-twitter-for-hateful-comments-about-serial-pedophiles-gender-identity/

Perfect example(s). 

Put as many officers out as you want, if they're busy "doing" this, then the nation's security is fucked.

Edited October 9, 20223 yr by Tonge moor green jacket

8 minutes ago, royal white said:

The question was to you. Who writes them, it’s ok if you don’t know you can just say. If a copper is stood there like a melon looking at protestors, or being pushed  about by other protestors it’s fuck all to do with whoever is in charge of the country.

The National Crime Agency, the College of Policing, the House of Lords, the Home Office, and multiple Commissioners/Constables in charge of forces around the country. Who do you think should be in charge of making our police force "tougher" on protestors?

Edited October 9, 20223 yr by Cheese

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

The National Crime Agency, the College of Policing, the House of Lords, the Home Office, and multiple Commissioners in charge of forces around the country. Who do you think should be given the power to make our police force "tougher" on protestors?

So it’s not my lot. We got there, well done. 

Punishment.

Deterence.

Rehabilitiation.

In which order should the priorities be ?

Certainly reading the above, no-one seems to be in agreement, and perhaps that is the problem ?

 

1 minute ago, royal white said:

So it’s not my lot. We got there, well done. 

So the Government have nothing to do with it? Who do you think should be in charge of making our police force "tougher" on protestors?

2 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So the Government have nothing to do with it? Who do you think should be in charge of making our police force "tougher" on protestors?

They are tough on certain protestors, as you’re probably aware. Others not so, that probably comes down to certain forces and their respective head sheds. Do you think that Boris used to phone the police up and say go easy on these eco warriors? Anti vaxxers? Etc? 

Just now, royal white said:

They are tough on certain protestors, as you’re probably aware. Others not so, that probably comes down to certain forces and their respective head sheds. Do you think that Boris used to phone the police up and say go easy on these eco warriors? Anti vaxxers? Etc? 

Governments legislate and police are supposed to operate according to those laws.

At the moment, there seems to be muddled thinking at best and damned right ignorance as to what the public expect and demand.

We've seen the results of it all with repeated failings with grooming gangs etc.

PCCs and chief constables set the tone- hopefully our new one will return GMP back to something like what they should be. 

If it needs new legislation to remove the "wokeness" and fear from policing, and put some semblance of common sense back into it, then bring it on.

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

They are tough on certain protestors, as you’re probably aware. Others not so, that probably comes down to certain forces and their respective head sheds. Do you think that Boris used to phone the police up and say go easy on these eco warriors? Anti vaxxers? Etc? 

No, I don't think that. Are you ever going to answer a simple question?

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If it needs new legislation to remove the "wokeness" and fear from policing, and put some semblance of common sense back into it, then bring it on.

And who's going to do that?

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Governments legislate and police are supposed to operate according to those laws.

At the moment, there seems to be muddled thinking at best and damned right ignorance as to what the public expect and demand.

We've seen the results of it all with repeated failings with grooming gangs etc.

PCCs and chief constables set the tone- hopefully our new one will return GMP back to something like what they should be. 

If it needs new legislation to remove the "wokeness" and fear from policing, and put some semblance of common sense back into it, then bring it on.

There’s obviously some confusion amongst the ranks. No way can police from certain forces act accordingly yet others just stand there doing nothing. Get 20 football fans to sit in a main rd near the ground holding a demo and see what happens likewise get one of your mates to grab a copper and say “you’re nicked”