Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 3, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, royal white said: About time they started handing out proper sentences for carrying a knife, never mind using it. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/breaking-man-65-stabbed-thugs-25164159?fbclid=IwAR0ehz0p0qzjU5xnxlX2_soLrwTv-E3afhwLGODtliVIfwnU1M2sI7ahO8M This is a mate of mine. There’s no way he was every handing keys over. He won’t have taken too kindly to the attack and would’ve fancied himself in a scrap without the knives. Thing is though, all black clothing, baseball cap and balaclava is a bit of a giveaway that, “I’m a gangster, me!” Cops should be pulling them in on every available opportunity. They’d soon get pissed off and realise their ‘uniform’ is like having a sign above your head saying, “I’m a dick. Search me.” Quote
royal white Posted October 3, 2022 Author Posted October 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, MickyD said: This is a mate of mine. There’s no way he was every handing keys over. He won’t have taken too kindly to the attack and would’ve fancied himself in a scrap without the knives. Thing is though, all black clothing, baseball cap and balaclava is a bit of a giveaway that, “I’m a gangster, me!” Cops should be pulling them in on every available opportunity. They’d soon get pissed off and realise their ‘uniform’ is like having a sign above your head saying, “I’m a dick. Search me.” Sorry to hear that and I hope your mate makes a full recovery. One of my mates has just posted a clip on FB of a gang with a similar description robbing a Range Rover. Horrible bastards Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 3, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Sorry to hear that and I hope your mate makes a full recovery. One of my mates has just posted a clip on FB of a gang with a similar description robbing a Range Rover. Horrible bastards No fear, no deterrent, no hope. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 3, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 3, 2022 15 years old. Quite simple: prison and keys gone. For all of them. Quote
Sweep Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 13 hours ago, MickyD said: No fear, no deterrent, no hope. Sadly, this seems to be the case at present 12 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: 15 years old. Quite simple: prison and keys gone. For all of them. We're not going to lock them up for life, as the cost would be too much - a good 20 stretch though, as well as a facial branding of some sort might start to act as some sort of deterrent. Quote
Traf Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 20yrs per offender. So, three involved here = 60yrs. 15yr old is the only one caught, he gets the 60yrs. If he gives one up, they do 30 each etc. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 4, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Sweep said: Sadly, this seems to be the case at present We're not going to lock them up for life, as the cost would be too much - a good 20 stretch though, as well as a facial branding of some sort might start to act as some sort of deterrent. Quite like the sound of this. A tattoo of Harry Maguire on the forehead maybe. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 Sort the prisons out first...at the moment we've just got youths going in and coming out ten times worse - and more dangerous to the public. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 4, 2022 Moderators Posted October 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Sort the prisons out first...at the moment we've just got youths going in and coming out ten times worse - and more dangerous to the public. So let these 3 scrotes roam free til the prisons are ready? Quote
royal white Posted October 4, 2022 Author Posted October 4, 2022 Every week you see courts letting folk go free who have been carrying a knife. There needs to be a 10 year minimum sentence just for carrying. Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 4, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 4, 2022 Bet the 15 year old they got would soon give names with the introduction of thumb screws. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Casino said: So let these 3 scrotes roam free til the prisons are ready? Of course not. But why are we wasting tax payers money on prisons that just make it worse. Drugs and knives seem to be rife in some places. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, MickyD said: Bet the 15 year old they got would soon give names with the introduction of thumb screws. Move to Iran mate, they'd welcome you with open arms 🤗 Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 4, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 4, 2022 Just now, London Wanderer said: Move to Iran mate, they'd welcome you with open arms 🤗 Please feel free to realise when I’m kidding. Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 4, 2022 Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Please feel free to realise when I’m kidding. Haha I knew you were Micky. As was I. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 4, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: Of course not. But why are we wasting tax payers money on prisons that just make it worse. Drugs and knives seem to be rife in some places. Athywhite should be your go to man on this. Perhaps we need a system where by sentences are high initially and prisoners can earn reductions based on behaviour and getting educated/skills whilst in there. If anyone is found with drugs, knives, illicit materials etc then maybe they get time added on. Quote
Moderators Carlos Posted October 4, 2022 Moderators Posted October 4, 2022 BN very quiet on this, is there a media blackout? Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 4, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, Carlos said: BN very quiet on this, is there a media blackout? They’ll be writing about it after reading what went on in Bolton over the weekend in Manchester Evening News. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 4, 2022 Moderators Posted October 4, 2022 similar incident over st helens way today has ended in tears Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 4, 2022 Moderators Posted October 4, 2022 they dont seem to be reporting it as such yet but, lets see what comes out Quote
Site Supporter fatolive Posted October 4, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 4, 2022 Another kid stabbed. This time Newcastle, another kid arrested for murder . https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/springwell-estate-gateshead-murder-investigation-25174092.amp Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 5, 2022 Moderators Posted October 5, 2022 14 hours ago, fatolive said: Another kid stabbed. This time Newcastle, another kid arrested for murder . https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/springwell-estate-gateshead-murder-investigation-25174092.amp Robinson's Newcastle Quote
London Wanderer Posted October 5, 2022 Posted October 5, 2022 On 04/10/2022 at 14:29, Tonge moor green jacket said: Athywhite should be your go to man on this. Perhaps we need a system where by sentences are high initially and prisoners can earn reductions based on behaviour and getting educated/skills whilst in there. If anyone is found with drugs, knives, illicit materials etc then maybe they get time added on. I'm all for longer sentences for certain crimes. But that needs to be matched with a prison system that keeps people safe and helps to prevent re-offending. No blame on prison officers on staff who do an amazing job with the small resources they have. Though I would argue they are probably not suitably qualified or equipped to deal with the mental health needs of the folk that come in - Athywhite can correct me on that if I'm wrong. Younger folk in for less time will be at risk from exploitation by older prisoners - so it would be much harder for them to earn reductions. Some of them may never have a proper role model in their life. It's hard to hear for any victim of a crime, but these people need proper help and probably should have had it earlier in their life. If we don't have a prison system that provides this, then we're all less safe when the offender comes out. Quote
Site Supporter MickyD Posted October 5, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: I'm all for longer sentences for certain crimes. But that needs to be matched with a prison system that keeps people safe and helps to prevent re-offending. No blame on prison officers on staff who do an amazing job with the small resources they have. Though I would argue they are probably not suitably qualified or equipped to deal with the mental health needs of the folk that come in - Athywhite can correct me on that if I'm wrong. Younger folk in for less time will be at risk from exploitation by older prisoners - so it would be much harder for them to earn reductions. Some of them may never have a proper role model in their life. It's hard to hear for any victim of a crime, but these people need proper help and probably should have had it earlier in their life. If we don't have a prison system that provides this, then we're all less safe when the offender comes out. Problem is, if you offer too much and end up sending folk out with qualifications or a trade then isn’t there a danger folk will look for a cheaper option than the current higher education fees? Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 5, 2022 Site Supporter Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, MickyD said: Problem is, if you offer too much and end up sending folk out with qualifications or a trade then isn’t there a danger folk will look for a cheaper option than the current higher education fees? Quite. Maybe they should have to work as part of their sentence. Tag them and have them doing stuff that is of benefit to society, within certain safeguarding parameters obviously. Quote
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