We had a discussion on here a while back, which suggested quite a substantial opposition to the project.

Now that there are rumours that the Northern section will be scrapped, what are the views now?

I was always an opponent of it, though softened slightly when an expert lady explained in more detail about the capacity issues on the East and West Coast mainlines.

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Before I set off yesterday, I checked the news for rail services due to the industrial action. This what I saw. Didn’t take long. It’s not difficult.🤷‍♂️

Knowing about it is one thing

The fact it is happening at all is sorta the point

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Knowing about it is one thing

The fact it is happening at all is sorta the point

Yep. Greedy unions.👍

Well this is going to fuck up a lot of Carlisle’s fans plans.  

Third world

17 minutes ago, royal white said:

Well this is going to fuck up a lot of Carlisle’s fans plans.  

It says they can use the tickets tomorrow or  Monday, so winners and losers.

32 minutes ago, royal white said:

Well this is going to fuck up a lot of Carlisle’s fans plans.  

That's really shit for them. I thought this weekend was supposed to be excellent weather all over the UK

Still, they can use the tickets tomorrow and Monday (as well as the option to get a full refund of course) 

I'll say it again, there was a better "Night Service" 20 years ago.

Why has it got worse? and why isn't there something resembling a 24h service in a major UK city in 2023

2 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

I'll say it again, there was a better "Night Service" 20 years ago.

Why has it got worse? and why isn't there something resembling a 24h service in a major UK city in 2023

They don't have 24h services in some major European cities either. Apparently that makes it acceptable. 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Well this is going to fuck up a lot of Carlisle’s fans plans.  

TPE have still run a few Carlisle-Preston and Carlisle-Manc Airport services so they’ll be reet. LNER are even running Carlisle-Edinburgh on exactly the same line that Avanti are claiming is closed, so it looks like it’s on Avanti, this one. 

On 06/10/2023 at 18:32, BobyBrno said:

Farnworth, Moses Gate, Salford (2 stations) Manchester Victoria, Ashton U Lyne, Stalybridge. (It started in Southport) 
Regular and reliable route that you Labour activists in Bromley wouldn’t have a fucking clue about. 
Public transport isn’t just about work commuting. You socialist’s should know these things. I doubt it.

Of course, you must know a lot about Bromley then and it's catchment?

Or the fact I do actually come from Bolton.

I do love a Champagne Socialist post from someone who knows nowt (mind you is there any other type?)

 

32 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Of course, you must know a lot about Bromley then and it's catchment?

Or the fact I do actually come from Bolton.

I do love a Champagne Socialist post from someone who knows nowt (mind you is there any other type?)

 

Not.     A.      Clue.🤷‍♂️

21 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Not.     A.      Clue.🤷‍♂️

Its weelly, weelly not hard. I understand the gears clog up watching clouds all day but come on.

11 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Its weelly, weelly not hard. I understand the gears clog up watching clouds all day but come on.

Nope. Still don’t get it. What’s Bromley’s catchment got to do with my trip on a train in East Lancs.🤷‍♂️

38 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Nope. Still don’t get it. What’s Bromley’s catchment got to do with my trip on a train in East Lancs.🤷‍♂️

You said I wouldn't have a clue about it being a Bromley activist (although what being a member of the local Labour party has to do with it, I don't know) which is bollocks, being in fact a Boltonian, and not only that having lived across Bolton, the North West, Yorkshire, London and the South East I've lived trains for all of my student and working life from Bolton to Oxford Rd from East Grindsted to London Bridge, from Chichester to Victoria I've rode 'em all across commuter and off peak. And as for it not only being about commuting - again not sure why a socialist wouldn't know about that (and who says I'm a socialist either) but peak time issues, and ongoing cancellations are the pinch point issues - last time I got a train from Bolton to Piccadilly off peak we were a hour and a half early for our train to London, and because of cancellations due to drivers not turning up, we got there by the skin of our teeth

And as for catchment, the idea that the outer suburbs of London and into the further reaches of Kent don't know about train travel and its inherent problems is disingenous given they are some of the busiest routes in the whole of the UK. When I first moved here it was still slam door trains and standing in carridges.

Bascially, saying you had the finger on the pluse of what is happening with train issues by one train journey, and then saying I wouldn't know because I'm a 'Bromley activist' made me chuckle 🙂

5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

You said I wouldn't have a clue about it being a Bromley activist (although what being a member of the local Labour party has to do with it, I don't know) which is bollocks, being in fact a Boltonian, and not only that having lived across Bolton, the North West, Yorkshire, London and the South East I've lived trains for all of my student and working life from Bolton to Oxford Rd from East Grindsted to London Bridge, from Chichester to Victoria I've rode 'em all across commuter and off peak. And as for it not only being about commuting - again not sure why a socialist wouldn't know about that (and who says I'm a socialist either) but peak time issues, and ongoing cancellations are the pinch point issues - last time I got a train from Bolton to Piccadilly off peak we were a hour and a half early for our train to London, and because of cancellations due to drivers not turning up, we got there by the skin of our teeth

And as for catchment, the idea that the outer suburbs of London and into the further reaches of Kent don't know about train travel and its inherent problems is disingenous given they are some of the busiest routes in the whole of the UK. When I first moved here it was still slam door trains and standing in carridges.

Bascially, saying you had the finger on the pluse of what is happening with train issues by one train journey, and then saying I wouldn't know because I'm a 'Bromley activist' made me chuckle 🙂

Right commuters?

 

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

Right commuters?

 

Stop FB stalking me!

the 4.45 and 5.15 from reebok to bolton were cancelled on saturday (dunno about later ones)

i got a taxi

prob cheaper, than bus then bus, or bus then taxi but a bit annoying as i had a return ticket

First three trains into Manchester between 7 and 8 this morning cancelled. 
 

Third world dogshit. 

17 hours ago, Casino said:

the 4.45 and 5.15 from reebok to bolton were cancelled on saturday (dunno about later ones)

i got a taxi

prob cheaper, than bus then bus, or bus then taxi but a bit annoying as i had a return ticket

That explains why the 6.15 was so busy. I usually get this one back and there's about 20 others get on it. On Saturday there must have been 300+.

 

38 minutes ago, freds dad said:

That explains why the 6.15 was so busy. I usually get this one back and there's about 20 others get on it. On Saturday there must have been 300+.

 

you shouldve got the littlehampton train

Anyway a bit of good news for the day. 
 

 

32 minutes ago, royal white said:

Anyway a bit of good news for the day. 
 

 

Whoops wrong thread. 

2 hours ago, royal white said:

Anyway a bit of good news for the day. 
 

 

Great news! That must be why they've redacted all the cost breakdowns from the documents on the Government website, even though the contract value is in excess of £1.5 BILLION.

https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/notice/e424ee5f-2839-4f1e-bd89-5b97d7910935?origin=SearchResults&p=1

3 hours ago, mickbrown said:

First three trains into Manchester between 7 and 8 this morning cancelled. 
 

Third world dogshit. 

Should have got the Farnworth to Stalybridge train, fast, efficient and people free.

It's only south london based Labour activists who are spreading scurrilous rumours of Northern rail infrastructure problems.

4 hours ago, Cheese said:

Great news! That must be why they've redacted all the cost breakdowns from the documents on the Government website, even though the contract value is in excess of £1.5 BILLION.

https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/notice/e424ee5f-2839-4f1e-bd89-5b97d7910935?origin=SearchResults&p=1

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