Bolton V Aston Villa U21 (H)

[Casino]

9 minutes ago, Walkden White said:

Yeah not like the stuff we're treated to by Mr Evatt. As someone else said recently a managers reputation for a large part comes down to propaganda. They are labelled this or that. 

i'll quote you, but not just at you

 

if the crossing and some of the finishing was owt close to par, we score 6, minimum and its labelled a good performance

sadly, the crossing was shit

i say crossing, its just passes across goal, nowt that technical

[gonzo]

11 minutes ago, Walkden White said:

Yeah not like the stuff we're treated to by Mr Evatt. As someone else said recently a managers reputation for a large part comes down to propaganda. They are labelled this or that. Must admit I don't find watching Wrexham games boring and in fact quite enjoyable from what I get to see..

Well it was bloody turgid under Parky but I like the bloke and it did a job.

Let's not pretend it's all been shite under Evatt either. 

On the whole we've played most of the league off the park. 

 

[Traf]

53 minutes ago, Gonk said:

Have you been away?

Been on a 4-week research trip to Bali.

[Zico]

3 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

It was only 2018 that Bolton beat Aston Villa in the 2nd Division  with the sort of gritty, northern perfromance that the club used to get from Parky but will never get from Evatt

aye, but after that win, in mid March, it should never have come down to the last game of the season

that grit you speak of then picked up 6 defeats and 1 draw in the next 7 before we beat Forest on the last day

[gonzo]

And we nearly spazzed that game up too. Plus let's not forget Burton away.

He was more stubborn than Evatt could have ever dreamed of being. 

Let's not re-write history.

[desperado]

39 minutes ago, gonzo said:

And we nearly spazzed that game up too. Plus let's not forget Burton away.

He was more stubborn than Evatt could have ever dreamed of being. 

Let's not re-write history.

Nostalgia and time does funny things to the memory.

That abuse Parky got at Burton was some of the worst I’ve seen.

Folk were very, very unhappy with him at that point. 

And without underplaying the 96-97 season which was fantastic and probably the top of the tree in my lifetime, Todd’s contribution before (with McFarland) and after with the Watford final had some absolute dross.

It’s one of the things that confuses me a little that older folk have put up with that and much much worse in the 80s and the dark decade (2010-20), yet claim this period with Evatt is almost turning them away from BWFC.

[frank_spencer]

22 minutes ago, desperado said:

It’s one of the things that confuses me a little that older folk have put up with that and much much worse in the 80s and the dark decade (2010-20), yet claim this period with Evatt is almost turning them away from BWFC.

Out on the piss with their mates as teenagers/twenty somethings in the 80s having a ruck with opposition fans meant the footy was secondary. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

In general terms the 80s were grim, but I loved mooching down to decrepit Burnden.

Didn't matter that there may only be 4 or 5 thousand on.

We've come closer to going out in business in recent times than we were when Nat gave his speech at half time against Charlton.

All told though, the experience is far more "polished" in today's modern stadium, and without doubt some of the current young fans would turn their nose up at the facilities at Burnden.

[gonzo]

Imagine Santos stood on the ball with Manny Road North lunatics in one ear and the Burnden Terrace barmpots in the other.

Fuck me he'd go on twitter for some nicer words.

[tomski]

All of this is great. But how does it help moving forward. He won’t turn this round

[Marc505]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

 

It’s one of the things that confuses me a little that older folk have put up with that and much much worse in the 80s and the dark decade (2010-20), yet claim this period with Evatt is almost turning them away from BWFC.

Aye I feel that too, I think some just prefer to be in chaos mode with it all, desperate to be able to say we're in crisis again.

Last few seasons for example has given us some of the wildest goal celebration situations I've ever seen, multiple times over, the likes of which we used to get maybe once a season at best. Some great games, results, something to play for all the time, a proper away following culture growing back up.

But a period of poor form and results and people are on about falling out of love with it all, I've said before I can't believe there's people moaning about wishing the club had the same passion as the old days, totally ignoring some of the stuff we've experienced recently.

Overall I'm in the "it's probably time to go" camp re. Evatt, but it's not making me feel like the whole club is at deaths door again.

[tomski]

2 hours ago, desperado said:

Nostalgia and time does funny things to the memory.

That abuse Parky got at Burton was some of the worst I’ve seen.

Folk were very, very unhappy with him at that point. 

And without underplaying the 96-97 season which was fantastic and probably the top of the tree in my lifetime, Todd’s contribution before (with McFarland) and after with the Watford final had some absolute dross.

It’s one of the things that confuses me a little that older folk have put up with that and much much worse in the 80s and the dark decade (2010-20), yet claim this period with Evatt is almost turning them away from BWFC.

I’ll answer this. The darker times, we were shit and I could accept this. Now I am struggling with the fact we really blew last season. All was avoidable, but the club plod on. This year won’t happen. Again avoidable. Nothing changes. I don’t think the passing sideways is as interesting as others clearly do. Yes I understand at times it’s been great but it’s in isolation and few and far between.

The refusal to change things up is stopping me wanting to be at the stadium. Still watch on tele but the fact it’s a 4/5 hour event for me at a home game is an investment in time I don’t want to give currently to just come home fucked off

 

[ianofcleveleys]

I'm one of the older ones, seen every decade since 1971, so I'll still be there all being well till long after Evatt's moved on and probably the next couple of incumbents. 

I get as frustrated as many do with Evatt, our stumbling, stalling progress and aspects of how we play, but not to such an extent that I'd sit watching Soccer Saturday or cut my back lawn instead.

[desperado]

1 hour ago, tomski said:

I’ll answer this. The darker times, we were shit and I could accept this. Now I am struggling with the fact we really blew last season. All was avoidable, but the club plod on. This year won’t happen. Again avoidable. Nothing changes. I don’t think the passing sideways is as interesting as others clearly do. Yes I understand at times it’s been great but it’s in isolation and few and far between.

The refusal to change things up is stopping me wanting to be at the stadium. Still watch on tele but the fact it’s a 4/5 hour event for me at a home game is an investment in time I don’t want to give currently to just come home fucked off

 

This post can be one that @Casino and others choose to look over as you wonder what I’m  going on about trying to persuade another doubter! 🤣

Take this as intended, a post which acknowledges how good this place is for allowing like minded folk to talk all things BWFC and for some end up making some good mates that you didn’t know before.

I put you in that bracket pal. 

Not besties 😂 but ones who you always look out for at games, share a beer help each other out with tickets etc cause we know our shared passion is BWFC

Now I’m one of those older (maybe on here not so much 😂) lads, and having those few extra years than a youngster like you 😉 has probably witnessed and  experienced more downs (and there’s plenty!) but regardless of age, there’s likeminded types of supporters that you know will be there through thick and thin, you can’t shake that passion, that desire to be there and wanting to see us win.

I’ve really misjudged you, if that isn’t you.

I’ll be amazed if I don’t see you against Burton and no doubt at an away game very soon. 😊

But If that’s not the case and you’re genuinely using the current situation as a reason for not going, I’m here to tell you, wake up! You’ve been through worse than this as a BWFC fan and if you’ve not, trust me things have been much worse, with far shitter managers and owners than this and there’s been far bigger issues at play in my 40+ years of watching us.

However if it’s personal issues affecting your attendance I respectfully retract my berrating and preaching, keep well and catch up soon x

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, tomski said:

I’ll answer this. The darker times, we were shit and I could accept this. Now I am struggling with the fact we really blew last season. All was avoidable, but the club plod on. This year won’t happen. Again avoidable. Nothing changes. I don’t think the passing sideways is as interesting as others clearly do. Yes I understand at times it’s been great but it’s in isolation and few and far between.

The refusal to change things up is stopping me wanting to be at the stadium. Still watch on tele but the fact it’s a 4/5 hour event for me at a home game is an investment in time I don’t want to give currently to just come home fucked off

 

Thinking about it waaay too hard mate.

It's really not that bad or serious.

Get yourself to the match lad ffs.

 

[tomski]

Good post.

Ill be full throttle after the change. I’ve had enough of this chap now though.

[tomski]

Just now, gonzo said:

Thinking about it waaay too hard mate.

It's really not that bad or serious.

Get yourself to the match lad ffs.

 

I’m no announcement queer but I’d be lying if I said I’ll see you at Burton, unless …….😂

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, tomski said:

I’m no announcement queer but I’d be lying if I said I’ll see you at Burton, unless …….😂

You'll catch me in Planet Football in down town Paphos for that one old bean.

Probably going for a Burton after it

[tomski]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

You'll catch me in Planet Football in down town Paphos for that one old bean.

Probably going for a Burton after it

Haha quality. Enjoy pal. Respect in joining my protest but going to Europe to prove a point😂

[Hoppy]

Been supporting the whites since being on my dad's shoulders watching Nat hold the FA cup, disaster when we were relegated from old div 1 been many ups and downs since can't get to many away games these days but it's the passion of the fans that keep you going  we have a great ground good crowds lots of younger supporters and we will eventually go up to the championship I just hope it's sooner than later!

[gonzo]

13 minutes ago, tomski said:

Haha quality. Enjoy pal. Respect in joining my protest but going to Europe to prove a point😂

Έβατ Έξω

[Zico]

4 hours ago, desperado said:

Nostalgia and time does funny things to the memory.

That abuse Parky got at Burton was some of the worst I’ve seen.

Folk were very, very unhappy with him at that point. 

And without underplaying the 96-97 season which was fantastic and probably the top of the tree in my lifetime, Todd’s contribution before (with McFarland) and after with the Watford final had some absolute dross.

It’s one of the things that confuses me a little that older folk have put up with that and much much worse in the 80s and the dark decade (2010-20), yet claim this period with Evatt is almost turning them away from BWFC.

We improved considerably under Todd after McFarland left, we just too little too late

Todd for the most part was very decent

[Dimron]

2 hours ago, tomski said:

I’ll answer this. The darker times, we were shit and I could accept this. Now I am struggling with the fact we really blew last season. All was avoidable, but the club plod on. This year won’t happen. Again avoidable. Nothing changes. I don’t think the passing sideways is as interesting as others clearly do. Yes I understand at times it’s been great but it’s in isolation and few and far between.

The refusal to change things up is stopping me wanting to be at the stadium. Still watch on tele but the fact it’s a 4/5 hour event for me at a home game is an investment in time I don’t want to give currently to just come home fucked off

 

Same as you mate... no enthusiasm anymore... I really can't be arsed with getting tickets. I was like this at the end of the Phil Neal and Megson days.

Our football tactics seem to consist of sucking any life from the game and we are expected to believe the spin that we are a family club playing in a community stadium... then our embedded manager goes out threatening the ref and opposing captain like something from the Den in front of all these families.

It really has now turned into a shit-show, as soon as Bolton FM were spinning a 5 niller last night and Super John using terms like "fill your boots tonight" i knew we were beat... i fell asleep to the commentary... our glorious manager was more focused on his appeal to his misconduct charge.

[tomski]

Just now, Dimron said:

Same as you mate... no enthusiasm anymore... I really can't be arsed with getting tickets. I was like this at the end of the Phil Neal and Megson days.

Our football tactics seem to consist of sucking any life from the game and we are expected to believe the spin that we are a family club playing in a community stadium... then our embedded manager goes out threatening the ref and opposing captain like something from the Den in front of all these families.

It really has now turned into a shit-show, as soon as Bolton FM were spinning a 5 niller last night and Super John using terms like "fill your boots tonight" i knew we were beat... i fell asleep to the commentary... our glorious manager was more focused on his appeal to his misconduct charge.

Always sad on hearing a fellow white lose the bug but it’s understandable 

[gonzo]

14 minutes ago, Zico said:

We improved considerably under Todd after McFarland left, we just too little too late

Todd for the most part was very decent

What a totally bonkers thing to do that joint manager bollocks was.

Can't be many more have tried it in the top flight?

Can only think of Evans and Houllier