Bolton V Aston Villa U21 (H)

[Dimron]

1 minute ago, tomski said:

Always sad on hearing a fellow white lose the bug but it’s understandable 

I'm still BWFC 

Managers come and go

[Wullie]

5 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Same as you mate... no enthusiasm anymore... I really can't be arsed with getting tickets. I was like this at the end of the Phil Neal and Megson days.

Our football tactics seem to consist of sucking any life from the game and we are expected to believe the spin that we are a family club playing in a community stadium... then our embedded manager goes out threatening the ref and opposing captain like something from the Den in front of all these families.

It really has now turned into a shit-show, as soon as Bolton FM were spinning a 5 niller last night and Super John using terms like "fill your boots tonight" i knew we were beat... i fell asleep to the commentary... our glorious manager was more focused on his appeal to his misconduct charge.

Same here. My mate died at the start of covid, and I just lost the passion to go. We;d been going to watch them for years, didn't really seem the same without the daft bugger

[tomski]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

What a totally bonkers thing to do that joint manager bollocks was.

Can't be many more have tried it in the top flight?

Can only think of Evans and Houllier

I’m sure Spurs had a go at it in the early 90s but I am probably wrong. Peter Shreeves and or El tel

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, tomski said:

I’m sure Spurs had a go at it in the early 90s but I am probably wrong. Peter Shreeves and or El tel

One is correct!

Doug Livermore and Ray Clemence it was. Think they took over Shreeves.

[tomski]

Gritt and curbs in champ 

[Zico]

29 minutes ago, tomski said:

Gritt and curbs in champ 

Reading had joint player managers with Jimmy Quinn and Mick Gooding when we met them in the play offs

[tomski]

25 minutes ago, Zico said:

Reading had joint player managers with Jimmy Quinn and Mick Gooding when we met them in the play offs

Haha legends

[wakey]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

We improved considerably under Todd after McFarland left, we just too little too late

Todd for the most part was very decent

Todd's title season was as good as it gets - would love to see another like it.

Watford was Todd's Oxford, and the following season ...

for me, that's where we are now with Evatt, and I don't see it getting (sufficiently) better.

It's not a case of if he goes - we all know he'll go at some point, and I doubt many think he'll be managing us next season in L1 - it's when.

Our views are really only split between those who believe he'll take us up this year and those who don't. I'm pretty firmly in the latter camp now.

I wish I shared some of that optimism, but I've seen to much that's convinced me otherwise.

Have to say, for the most part this thread is a great example of folk with different views airing them in a reasonable and respectful manner ... as it should be because we ultimately all want the same thing.

And on that note, who's up for a club shop straightener? 😁

 

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Same as you mate... no enthusiasm anymore... I really can't be arsed with getting tickets. I was like this at the end of the Phil Neal and Megson days.

Our football tactics seem to consist of sucking any life from the game and we are expected to believe the spin that we are a family club playing in a community stadium... then our embedded manager goes out threatening the ref and opposing captain like something from the Den in front of all these families.

It really has now turned into a shit-show, as soon as Bolton FM were spinning a 5 niller last night and Super John using terms like "fill your boots tonight" i knew we were beat... i fell asleep to the commentary... our glorious manager was more focused on his appeal to his misconduct charge.

See, I don’t think that’s necessarily always the case. The away leg at Barnsley was just an incredibly complete performance. Plymouth at Wembley for Christ’s sake. Even the 90 minutes at Northampton last week. Evatt is more than capable of sending teams out to entirely dismantle the opposition, and on occasions they’ve been against some very decent sides.

I think the fact that it is so inconsistent is what hits harder. If we were shit every week then we’d soon get used to it and shrug our shoulders, whereas the meltdowns on here with each dropped point ultimately stem from knowing that they’re so often capable of so much more. 

[ianofcleveleys]

That Barnsley game (sorry, droned on about it before) was the blueprint, unlike anything before it but also, sadly, not repeated since. The way they were set up, how they went about it, bit less risk, ball forward quicker and longer, stretching and turning defenders towards their own goal. Best performance, at least in my eyes, of Evatt's time, given the opponents and the occasion.

[victor meldrew]

20 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

That Barnsley game (sorry, droned on about it before) was the blueprint, unlike anything before it but also, sadly, not repeated since. The way they were set up, how they went about it, bit less risk, ball forward quicker and longer, stretching and turning defenders towards their own goal. Best performance, at least in my eyes, of Evatt's time, given the opponents and the occasion.

No it wasn’t, played Wycombe in August 22 , they had lost in the playoffs, we didn’t make them. We destroyed them. That was the blueprint. Unfortunately we were too inconsistent that season ,by winning at Wembley it masked the inconsistency and move forward to today. Should have resigned after Oxford debacle.

[Take Hunt Off]

Plenty ups & downs during my era of support (1963 onwards) Never really lost the faith even in the dark eighties when we used to debate in the snooker club pre match wether or not to ditch the match & have a couple of extra frames instead .We never actually did the deed , but we missed a few kick-offs.Going through the turnstile at 3.05 to be told by the operator that we were ‘one down , Tony Kelly own goal !

My lifelong radar is not telling me that we are a promotion team & to be fair didn’t last season either .That inner buzz that you feel when you KNOW your going up is absent unlike the Armfied & Todd seasons. Although tbf the eventual Greaves promotion season had me as a doubting Thomas.

Nevertheless we still live in hope although as much as Evatt has progressed the club I don’t think he can take us up and I hope I’m wrong.

Despite all never felt like I wasn’t up for the match , although folk who travel the breadth & length of the country have my unreserved respect.

 

[ianofcleveleys]

41 minutes ago, victor meldrew said:

No it wasn’t, played Wycombe in August 22 , they had lost in the playoffs, we didn’t make them. We destroyed them. That was the blueprint. Unfortunately we were too inconsistent that season ,by winning at Wembley it masked the inconsistency and move forward to today. Should have resigned after Oxford debacle.

I do remember that game too, first home game of season I think, you're right, we ripped Wycombe apart, great goals, midfielders like Dempsey and Morley driving a coach and horses through them. A height we didn't hit after 

[Ani]

41 minutes ago, victor meldrew said:

No it wasn’t, played Wycombe in August 22 , they had lost in the playoffs, we didn’t make them. We destroyed them. That was the blueprint. Unfortunately we were too inconsistent that season ,by winning at Wembley it masked the inconsistency and move forward to today. Should have resigned after Oxford debacle.

Mate, told you on train back from Stevenage he was not up to it. 
 

One thing I really do not get on this thread is the number of people who can not be arsed anymore. I have loved last 2-3 seasons, some brilliant away trips. The biggest pisser this season is how the combination of international weekends and the Sky deal have ruined our travels. TBF me and mate are travelling with kids/step kids who have reached drinking age and that helps rather than any on pitch activity. 

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I do remember that game too, first home game of season I think, you're right, we ripped Wycombe apart, great goals, midfielders like Dempsey and Morley driving a coach and horses through them. A height we didn't hit after 

Morley's drop off has been really disappointing and hard to understand. 

[gonzo]

Our attendances have never been higher in recent history and over the last few seasons nearly every away game sold out within in seconds.

We have 5 bad results and folk are on about losing interest

[tshape]

I was saying to my mates the other night that my interest has never been as up and down as it has been since Wembley. Not done an away game yet this season and I don't even feel remotely bothered by it. I was up at the Reebok the other night before the match and saw the floodlights on and I felt no guilt whatsoever about the fact that I was up there but not actually going to the match. It's a shit way to feel and I can't wait to get the spark back at some point.

[Duck Egg]

11 hours ago, Ani said:

One thing I really do not get on this thread is the number of people who can not be arsed anymore. I have loved last 2-3 seasons, some brilliant away trips. The biggest pisser this season is how the combination of international weekends and the Sky deal have ruined our travels. TBF me and mate are travelling with kids/step kids who have reached drinking age and that helps rather than any on pitch activity. 

Got to agree. I like Evatt and the football he's had us playing even though I'm losing faith in him ever getting us promoted. Seen lots of great games, one or two near perfect performances and enjoyed great occasions with family and friends.

The crowds, football and occasion far exceeds the experiences last time we were playing at this level for a few years.

[Greg_BWFC]

4 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Got to agree. I like Evatt and the football he's had us playing even though I'm losing faith in him ever getting us promoted. Seen lots of great games, one or two near perfect performances and enjoyed great occasions with family and friends.

The crowds, football and occasion far exceeds the experiences last time we were playing at this level for a few years.

Yes, I thought last season was tremendous. 

Big crowds, up there all season.

Felt like proper football again, thoroughly enjoyed it.

I suppose that made how it ended all the more disappointing. 

Have to say I had little enthusiasm when I dragged myself to my first game (Huddersfield 🤦‍♂️), but weirdly have found myself looking at ways to get to Birmingham and Stevenage after work 😂😂.

Bonkers, isn't it 😀

[Tonge moor green jacket]

11 hours ago, Ani said:

Morley's drop off has been really disappointing and hard to understand. 

He's supposedly loving it down there at the moment. Good luck to him.

[Whitesince63]

Life just changes things. I’ve been going since 1963 with my old man and brother, always had a season ticket and never missed a home game wherever I was living, Scotland, London, Liverpool, Lincoln and now Yorkshire, always there for 3pm on a Saturday and night games when I could but now I have no old man, no older brother and it just isn’t the same going on your own but it isn’t that that means I go less frequently now, it’s that my 7 year old granddaughter is now football mad and has joined a football team so since she now plays in the Sheffield League every Saturday I can no longer make Wanderers games as granddads nominated to take her wherever she needs and he loves it. It’s a newly formed team Wickersley Wildcats and last week we lost 11-0 but she loved it. This week we’re at Sheffield Wednesday girls and if we get away with 11-0 again I’ll be very happy but she loves it and I love seeing her love it. So I haven’t fallen out with football or Wanderers, it’s just that life changes and you make your choices and I’ve made mine but I’ll still always be a trotter. 😁

[ianofcleveleys]

48 minutes ago, Greg_BWFC said:

Yes, I thought last season was tremendous. 

Big crowds, up there all season.

Felt like proper football again, thoroughly enjoyed it.

I suppose that made how it ended all the more disappointing. 

Have to say I had little enthusiasm when I dragged myself to my first game (Huddersfield 🤦‍♂️), but weirdly have found myself looking at ways to get to Birmingham and Stevenage after work 😂😂.

Bonkers, isn't it 😀

Yes, to be fair, the atmosphere, crowds and a fair amount of the football have been, as an all round match going experience, well above what we were getting even when we were doing well at this level back in Parky's days.

Wembley was seriously disappointing but I hadn't really a second thought about renewing and looked forward to first home game as much as in any previous season

[Cheese]

14 hours ago, Take Hunt Off said:

Plenty ups & downs during my era of support (1963 onwards) Never really lost the faith even in the dark eighties when we used to debate in the snooker club pre match wether or not to ditch the match & have a couple of extra frames instead .We never actually did the deed , but we missed a few kick-offs.Going through the turnstile at 3.05 to be told by the operator that we were ‘one down , Tony Kelly own goal !

My lifelong radar is not telling me that we are a promotion team & to be fair didn’t last season either .That inner buzz that you feel when you KNOW your going up is absent unlike the Armfied & Todd seasons. Although tbf the eventual Greaves promotion season had me as a doubting Thomas.

Nevertheless we still live in hope although as much as Evatt has progressed the club I don’t think he can take us up and I hope I’m wrong.

Despite all never felt like I wasn’t up for the match , although folk who travel the breadth & length of the country have my unreserved respect.

Doubt anybody's radar was telling them we were a promotion team in October 2020, but we were.

[Zico]

33 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Doubt anybody's radar was telling them we were a promotion team in October 2020, but we were.

on this day in 1992, we'd just lost 3 in a row

after 11 games we were w 3, l 6, d 2

so 11 from 33

Stoke and Vale on 17

McGinley had just signed and we won 7 of next 10, drawing 3

be reet

[gonzo]

Derby were nowhere this time last year and were bloody crap all season.