Jump to content
Wanderers Ways. Neil Thompson 1961-2021

The Draw


Casino

Recommended Posts

  • Moderators

10

 

1 from 10

 

i'm still not happy with where they're going to put the winner of the postponed game

 

normally, would the winner of that tie be ranked at the same number regardless of which team won?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 94
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

10

 

1 from 10

 

i'm still not happy with where they're going to put the winner of the postponed game

 

normally, would the winner of that tie be ranked at the same number regardless of which team won?

 

Both AEK and Seville have higher seeding coefficients than us, so whoever wins wouldn't alter our ranking and the teams we could play.(i don't think)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

george, i know only me and you care, but i thought it was like 1,6,11 etc

 

so it would matter?

 

AEk are currently 20th seed,Seville would enter as the number 1 seed.

 

We'd still be the 25th but the teams ranked 1-19 would all move down one if Seville entered the draw.

 

It would change the teams above us in our group but not the ones seeded lower.

 

Thinking about it,if 19 teams changed their ranking on Monday if Seville lost the whole draw would have to be done again!

 

So i would forget my original point and wait for Bert or UEfa to sort it out :(

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Are all the teams drawn first and then dates announced later, or do we know if we're home or away straight away based on whether we're out first or second?

 

Really can't remember from last time

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderators
I really can't get me head round all this malarky, but didn't someone say you can't have more than 1 team from each country in each "group"? So presumably a group that AEK would fit in might not suit Seville???

 

email bert!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm further behind still.

 

Who the fook's Bert?

 

So will we know the poss 5 teams toneet or not?

 

Probably yes.

 

Definitely will when UEFA confirm tomorrow morning.

 

2 years ago the groups were confirmed on UEFA's website around 9am

 

And Bert Kassies runs this website http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2007.html where we get most of the info from.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Probably yes.

 

Definitely will when UEFA confirm tomorrow morning.

 

2 years ago the groups were confirmed on UEFA's website around 9am

 

And Bert Kassies runs this website http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seeduc2007.html where we get most of the info from.

 

Nice one Jay Jay, I had it in my head that we would know straight after the games tonight, but I assume that would be educated guesses taken from said website's criterion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderators

Right Mongy Moonmen, I've written a program to put the teams into an array and fish them out into the groups Bert suggests, as you can see there are many country clashes as things currently stand:

 

Villarreal Esp 78.374

Lokomotiv Moscow Rus 38.920

Zenit St. Petersburg ** Rus 38.920

Getafe Esp 25.374

Atl?tico Madrid @ Esp 25.374

FC Groningen Ned 14.995

1.FC N?rnberg Ger 14.640

Dunfermline Athletic ** Sco 10.064

FC Z?rich *** Sui 9.869

BATE Borisov *** Bls 1.540

 

Bayern M?nchen Ger 73.640

Rapid Bucuresti Rom 40.255

Sparta Praha *** Cze 37.851

Galatasaray ** Tur 26.791

Everton Eng 24.618

OB Odense * Den 15.129

Standard Li?ge ** Bel 14.594

Rapid Wien @ Aut 10.104

Metalist Kharkiv Ukr 9.726

Tampere United *** Fin 2.420

 

Ajax *** Ned 65.995

Real Zaragoza Esp 40.374

FC Sochaux-Montb?liard Fra 36.706

Sporting Braga Por 27.107

Fiorentina Ita 21.808

Uni?o de Leiria @ Por 16.107

Maccabi Tel-Aviv * Isr 14.338

Aberdeen Sco 11.064

FC Midtjylland * Den 9.129

Zrinjski Mostar * Bos 3.190

 

AZ Alkmaar Ned 63.995

Tottenham Hotspur Eng 40.618

Blackburn Rovers @ Eng 36.618

Spartak Moscow *** Rus 27.920

Empoli Ita 21.808

Panionios Gre 16.415

CF Os Belenenses Por 14.107

V?lerengen IF * Nor 11.509

FC Salzburg *** Aut 9.104

Helsingborg IF * Swe 3.478

 

Panathinaikos Gre 55.415

Anderlecht *** Bel 41.594

AEK Athens *** Gre 36.415

Sampdoria @ Ita 28.808

Stade Rennais Fra 20.706

Dinamo Zagreb *** Cro 17.533

Pa?os de Ferreira Por 14.107

Groclin Grodzisk * Pol 11.609

FC Sion ** Sui 8.869

FK Sarajevo *** Bos 4.190

 

FC Basel ** Sui 54.869

Palermo Ita 42.808

Heerenveen Ned 35.995

Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk ** Ukr 29.726

CSKA Sofia ** Bul 20.112

Toulouse FC *** Fra 17.706

Mlad? Boleslav Cze 13.851

FC Twente Enschede Ned 12.995

AE Larissa Gre 8.415

AIK Stockholm * Swe 4.478

 

RC Lens @ Fra 51.706

Club Brugge Bel 45.594

Hamburger SV @ Ger 34.640

Austria Wien ** Aut 30.104

Hapoel Tel-Aviv ** Isr 19.338

Litex Lovech * Bul 19.112

Petrzalka Bratislava * Svk 13.575

Otelul Galati @ Rom 13.255

AaB Aalborg @ Den 7.129

IF Elfsborg *** Swe 4.478

 

Girondins Bordeaux Fra 49.706

Bayer Leverkusen Ger 45.640

Dinamo Bucuresti *** Rom 34.255

Bolton Wanderers Eng 32.618

Red Star Belgrade *** Srb 19.256

FC K?benhavn *** Den 19.129

Aris Thessaloniki Gre 13.415

CFR Cluj ** Rom 13.255

Fredrikstad FK ** Nor 6.509

SK Brann Bergen * Nor 6.509

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very good,Carlos.

 

But 3 of those teams have got knocked out already this evening (Cluj,Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Otelul Galati )

 

With all the shock results and teams from the same countries in the groups,Bert is going to have to sort it out.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderators
Very good,Carlos.

 

But 3 of those teams have got knocked out already this evening (Cluj,Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Otelul Galati )

 

With all the shock results and teams from the same countries in the groups,Bert is going to have to sort it out.

 

No George, like I said, I've written a program so when I get home tonight (about half 10) I can enter the up to date info and produce a new list in milliseconds.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No George, like I said, I've written a program so when I get home tonight (about half 10) I can enter the up to date info and produce a new list in milliseconds.

 

I see.

 

Just the problem of what to do with groups with teams from the same countries in.But better than not having a list.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I currently have the 5 teams we could play as

 

Copenhagen

Twente Eschede

Groclin

Famagusta

one of Elfsborg or AIK Stockholm (they have the same coefficient)

 

But like Carlos says, the groups may change.

 

However why would they need to change the groups if the teams from the same country were both seeds or non-seeds? I can't see why as they couldn't draw each other.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I currently have the 5 teams we could play as

 

Copenhagen

Twente Eschede

Groclin

Famagusta

one of Elfsborg or AIK Stockholm (they have the same coefficient)

 

But like Carlos says, the groups may change.

 

However why would they need to change the groups if the teams from the same country were both seeds or non-seeds? I can't see why as they couldn't draw each other.

 

Now I have

 

Copenhagen

Twente Eschede

Groclin

Elfsborg

AIK Stockholm

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Cup_2007...eding_structure

 

I have the groups as

 

GROUP 1

 

 

| '''1''' || {{flagicon|ESP}} [[Villarreal CF|Villarreal]] || 78.374 || 1

| '''16''' || {{flagicon|RUS}} [[FC Lokomotiv Moscow|Lokomotiv Moscow]] || 38.920 || 1

| '''17''' || {{flagicon|RUS}} [[FC Zenit Saint Petersburg|Zenit St Petersburg]] || 38.920 || 1

| '''32''' || {{flagicon|ESP}} [[Getafe CF|Getafe]] || 25.374 || 1

| '''33''' || {{flagicon|ESP}} [[Athletico Madrid|Atletico Madrid]] || 25.374 || 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''48''' || {{flagicon|NED}} [[FC Groningen|Groningen]] || 14.995 || 1

| '''49''' || {{flagicon|GER}} [[1. FC N?rnberg|N?rnberg]] || 14.640 || 1

| '''64''' || {{flagicon|UKR}} [[FC Metalist Kharkiv|Metalist Kharkiv]] || 9.726 || 1

| '''65''' || {{flagicon|DEN}} [[FC Midtjylland|Midtjylland]] || 9.129 || 1

| '''80''' || {{flagicon|BLR}} [[FC BATE|BATE Borisov]]|| 1.540 || 1

 

GROUP 2

 

| '''2''' || {{flagicon|GER}} [[FC Bayern Munich|Bayern Munich]] || 73.640 || 2

| '''15''' || {{flagicon|ROM}} [[FC Rapid Bucureşti|Rapid Bucharest]] || 40.255 || 2

| '''18''' || {{flagicon|CZE}} [[AC Sparta Praha|Sparta Prague]] || 37.851 || 2

| '''31''' || {{flagicon|TUR}} [[Galatasaray S.K.|Galatasaray]] || 26.791 || 2

| '''34''' || {{flagicon|ENG}} [[Everton F.C.|Everton]] || 24.618 || 2

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''47''' || {{flagicon|NED}} [[Odense Boldklub|Odense]] || 15.129 || 2

| '''50''' || {{flagicon|BEL}} [[standard Li?ge]] || 14.594 || 2

| '''63''' || {{flagicon|TUR}} [[Kayseri Erciyesspor]] || 9.726 || 2

| '''66''' || {{flagicon|AUT}} [[FC Red Bull Salzburg|Red Bull Salzburg]] || 9.104 || 2

| '''79''' || {{flagicon|MKD}} [[FK Rabotnički|Rabotnički]] || 1.925 || 2

 

 

GROUP 3

 

| '''3''' || {{flagicon|NED}} [[AFC Ajax|Ajax]] || 65.995 || 3

| '''14''' || {{flagicon|ESP}} [[Real Zaragoza]] || 40.374 || 3

| '''19''' || {{flagicon|FRA}} [[FC Sochaux-Montb?liard|Sochaux]] || 36.706 || 3

| '''30''' || {{flagicon|POR}} [[s.C. Braga|Sporting Braga]] || 27.107 || 3

| '''35''' || {{flagicon|ITA}} [[ACF Fiorentina|Fiorentina]] || 21.808 || 3

---------------------------------------------------------------

| '''46''' || {{flagicon|POR}} [[uni?o Leiria]] || 16.107|| 3

| '''51''' || {{flagicon|POR}} [[C.F. Os Belenenses|Os Belenenses]] || 14.107 || 3

| '''62''' || {{flagicon|SUI}} [[FC Z?rich|Z?rich]] || 9.869 || 3

| '''67''' || {{flagicon|SUI}} [[FC Sion|Sion]] || 8.869 || 3

| '''78''' || {{flagicon|FIN}} [[Tampere United]]|| 2.420 || 3

 

GROUP 4

 

| '''4''' || {{flagicon|NED}} [[AZ (football club)|AZ Alkmaar]] || 63.995 || 4

| '''13''' || {{flagicon|ENG}} [[Tottenham Hotspur F.C.|Tottenham Hotspur]] || 40.618 || 4

| '''20''' || {{flagicon|ENG}} [[blackburn Rovers]] || 36.618 || 4

| '''29''' || {{flagicon|RUS}} [[spartak Moscow]] || 27.920 || 4

| '''36''' || {{flagicon|ITA}} [[Empoli F.C.|Empoli]] || 21.808 || 4

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''45''' || {{flagicon|GRE}} [[Panionios]] || 16.415 || 4

| '''52''' || {{flagicon|POR}} [[F.C. Pa?os de Ferreira|Pa?os de Ferreira]] || 14.107 || 4

| '''61''' || {{flagicon|BUL}} [[Lokomotiv Sofia|Lokomotiv Sofia]] || 10.112 || 4

| '''68''' || {{flagicon|GRE}} [[AEL 1964|AE Larissa]] || || 4

| '''77''' || {{flagicon|SWE}} [[bK Hacken|Hacken]] || 3.478 || 4

 

GROUP 5

 

| '''5''' || {{flagicon|GRE}} [[Panathinaikos FC|Panathinaikos]] || 55.415 || 5

| '''12''' || {{flagicon|BEL}} [[R.S.C. Anderlecht|Anderlecht]] || 41.594 || 5

| '''21''' || {{flagicon|GRE}} [[AEK_Athens_FC|AEK Athens]] || 36.415 || 5

| '''28''' || {{flagicon|ITA}} [[u.C. Sampdoria|Sampdoria]] || 28.808 || 5

| '''37''' || {{flagicon|FRA}} [[stade Rennais|Rennes]] || 20.706 || 5

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''44''' || {{flagicon|CRO}} [[NK Dinamo Zagreb|Dinamo Zagreb]] || 17.533 || 5

| '''53''' || {{flagicon|CZE}} [[FK Mlad? Boleslav|Mlad? Boleslav]] || 13.851 || 5

| '''60''' || {{flagicon|AUT}} [[Rapid Wien|Rapid Vienna]] || 10.104 || 5

| '''69''' || {{flagicon|DEN}} [[Aalborg Boldspilklub|Aalborg]] || 7.129 || 5

| '''76''' || {{flagicon|SWE}} [[Hammarby IF|Hammarby]] || 3.478 || 5

 

 

GROUP 6

 

| '''6''' || {{flagicon|SUI}} [[FC Basel|Basel]] || 54.869 || 6

| '''11''' || {{flagicon|ITA}} [[u.S. Citt? di Palermo|Palermo]] || 42.808 || 6

| '''22''' || {{flagicon|NED}} [[sC Heerenveen|Heerenveen]] || 35.995 || 6

| '''27''' || {{flagicon|UKR}} [[FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk|Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk]] || 29.726 || 6

| '''38''' || {{flagicon|BUL}} [[PFC CSKA Sofia|CSKA Sofia]] || 20.112 || 6

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''43''' || {{flagicon|FRA}} [[Toulouse FC|Toulouse]] || 17.706 || 6

| '''54''' || {{flagicon|SVK}} [[FC Artmedia Bratislava|Artmedia Bratislava]]|| 13.575 || 6

| '''59''' || {{flagicon|SCO}} [[Aberdeen F.C.|Aberdeen]] || 11.064 || 6

| '''70''' || {{flagicon|NOR}} [[sK Brann|Brann]] || 6.509 || 6

| '''75''' || {{flagicon|SWE}} [[Helsingborg]] || 3.478 || 6

 

GROUP 7

 

| '''7''' || {{flagicon|FRA}} [[RC Lens|Lens]] || 51.706 || 7

| '''10''' || {{flagicon|BEL}} [[Club Brugge K.V.|Club Brugge]] || 45.594 || 7

| '''23''' || {{flagicon|GER}} [[Hamburger SV]] || 34.460 || 7

| '''26''' || {{flagicon|AUT}} [[FK Austria Wien|Austria Vienna]] || 30.104 || 7

| '''39''' || {{flagicon|ISR}} [[Hapoel Tel Aviv F.C.|Hapoel Tel Aviv]] || 19.338 || 7

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''42''' || {{flagicon|BUL}} [[PFC Litex Lovech|Litex Lovech]] || 19.112 || 7

| '''55''' || {{flagicon|GRE}} [[Aris FC|Aris Thessaloniki]] || 13.415 || 7

| '''58''' || {{flagicon|NOR}} [[V?lerenga IF|V?lerenga]] || 11.509 || 7

| '''71''' || {{flagicon|CYP}} [[Anorthosis Famagusta]] || 5.492 || 7

| '''74''' || {{flagicon|BIH}} [[FK Sarajevo]] || 4.190 || 7

 

GROUP 8

 

| '''8''' || {{flagicon|FRA}} [[FC Girondins de Bordeaux|Bordeaux]] || 49.706 || 8

| '''9''' || {{flagicon|GER}} [[bayer 04 Leverkusen|Bayer Leverkusen]] || 45.640 || 8

| '''24''' || {{flagicon|ROM}} [[FC Dinamo Bucureşti|Dinamo Bucharest]] || 34.255 || 8

| '''25''' || {{flagicon|ENG}} [[bolton Wanderers]] || 32.618 || 8

| '''40''' || {{flagicon|SER}} [[Red Star Belgrade|Red Star Belgrade]] || 19.256 || 8

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

| '''41''' || {{flagicon|DEN}} [[F.C. Copenhagen|Copenhagen]] || 19.129 || 8

| '''56''' || {{flagicon|NED}} [[FC Twente|Twente]] || 12.995 || 8

| '''57''' || {{flagicon|POL}} [[Dyskobolia Grodzisk Wielkopolski|Dyskobolia Grodzisk]] || 11.609 || 8

| '''72''' || {{flagicon|SWE}} [[iF Elfsborg|Elfsborg]] || 4.478 || 8

| '''73''' || {{flagicon|SWE}} [[AIK Fotboll|AIK]] || 4.478 || 8

Edited by jayjayoghani
Link to comment
Share on other sites


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.