Group F Table

[Bobcat]

I would imagine that Bayern will beat Aris, so the Braga result would mean nothing.

 

I'm confident.

 

 

agreed...as long as Bayern win the other result doesn't matter.

[Whites man]

Perhaps the next Euro jaunt should be Munich for the Aris game just in case.

[Supersyd]

right all you wanderers who bought munich tops.. ( not 1860 ) post your photos from munich, and allegience to them on a bayern website.

 

lets start by getting their fans on- side

 

Done my bit. Ive now posted a new thread on:

 

http://community.fcbayern.de/index.php?tar...e24931b7b12259b

 

 

 

Which is Bayerns website, its on the International Forum at the bottom of the page 'For our fans around the world'. COME ON BAYERN beat the GREEKS.

Edited December 6, 2007 by Supersyd

[JimmyRiddle]

This is from UEFA Regulations for the group stage;

 

Criteria for seperating teams finishing on same points total;

 

a) Superior goal difference from all games played

 

Higher number of goals scored

 

c) Higher number of goals scored away

 

d) Higher number of wins

 

e) Higher number of away wins

 

f) highest UEFA coefficient points (given we were seeeded second we can only be behind Bayern on this one!)

 

So someone with more patience than me figure it out and let me know what results we need to happen.

 

http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/19070.pdf if you wanna check for yourself, page 11 & 12.

Edited December 6, 2007 by JimmyRiddle

[Smiffs]

Oh fcuk to it all.

 

I'm going to settle this once and for all.

 

Right, get Jonny Foreigner on now, one on one, paper scissors stone.

 

Being from the best country in the world, I get to go first.

 

Ok............

 

1

 

2

 

3

 

STONE

[magic legs]

Calm down calm down. Bayern will win nae bother. We've done too much away from home not to get through.

[JimmyRiddle]

Just checked the last 3 years worth of UEFA cup stats on Wikipedia and only one team has not qualified with 6 points from all those groups and that was Rangers who had won 2 and lost 2 in 2004/05!!!

[YATESY]

according to the bbc website Bayern are on +1 didnt they win 3-2 on the opening game. But they have scored more than us , sorry for the table below

 

UEFA Cup : Group F Table

06 December 2007 21:40

P W D L F A GD PTS

1 Bolton 4 1 3 0 5 4 1 6

2 Aris Salonica 3 1 2 0 5 2 3 5

3 Bayern Munich 3 1 2 0 6 5 1 5

4 Braga 3 0 3 0 3 3 0 3

5 Crvena Zvezda 3 0 0 3 2 7 -5 0

 

Reet then.

 

We worked this out last night but the UEFA site has confirmed things.

 

The worst case scenario can only come about if Bayern and Aris draw, so let us assume this happens so both of those two are through - Aris on a goal difference of +2 and Bayern on scoring more goals than us.

 

Now the Braga v Red Star game - Braga have to win so what happens by the different score lines assuming they do win:

1-0 Bolton are through on more goals scored

2-0 (and any other win by more than 1 goal) Braga are through on a better goal difference

2-1 Bolton are through on a higher UEFA coefficient ranking

3-2 (and anyother win by a single goal) Braga are through on more goals scored

 

Sorted then

[MickyD]

My money's still on a draw for the Munich/Aris game. I think they'll agree it over a beer or two just because a result would almost certainly put the losing team out.

[bwdavefc]

Reet then.

 

We worked this out last night but the UEFA site has confirmed things.

 

The worst case scenario can only come about if Bayern and Aris draw, so let us assume this happens so both of those two are through - Aris on a goal difference of +2 and Bayern on scoring more goals than us.

 

Now the Braga v Red Star game - Braga have to win so what happens by the different score lines assuming they do win:

1-0 Bolton are through on more goals scored

2-0 (and any other win by more than 1 goal) Braga are through on a better goal difference

2-1 Bolton are through on a higher UEFA coefficient ranking

3-2 (and anyother win by a single goal) Braga are through on more goals scored

 

Sorted then

 

If Braga win 2-1, we'd go through on more goals scored away from home. Wanderers 3, Braga 2

[YATESY]

If Braga win 2-1, we'd go through on more goals scored away from home. Wanderers 3, Braga 2

 

 

Fair point that matey, I mis-counted where their goals were scored.

 

Either way, 2-1 for Braga and we are still through.

[Salford Trotter]

My money's still on a draw for the Munich/Aris game. I think they'll agree it over a beer or two just because a result would almost certainly put the losing team out.

 

Bayern will not want to finish 3rd as they'll play one of the CL teams that finish 3rd in their group with the away leg second (as we were with Marsaille) so I reckon they go all out to win the Aris game.

[ZiggyStardust]

Bayern will not want to finish 3rd as they'll play one of the CL teams that finish 3rd in their group with the away leg second (as we were with Marsaille) so I reckon they go all out to win the Aris game.

 

Thats second place that does that. UEFA group winners will play a UEFA group 3rd place team, 2nd place play a CL reject.

I think.

[YATESY]

Thats second place that does that. UEFA group winners will play a UEFA group 3rd place team, 2nd place play a CL reject.

I think.

 

As I recall Ziggy you are spot on.

[trotter58]

2-1 for Braga and we are still through.

 

Forget about Red Star even scoring a goal, Aris beat them 3-0 at home. Braga will qualify easily. It's all down to the Bayern v Aris game. I predict a carve-up with both teams going through after passing the ball to each other for 90 minutes. Remember Germany v Austria in the 1982 World Cup?

[Sumo]

If Bayern can't beat the Greek team at home it is a poor do.

 

And we can all have a bet on the draw and Braga win double to get some compensation...

 

George - great double that , will probably pay about 5/1 so like you say, win either way