If we can get back half of what we paid for him, I would snap their hands off.

 

 

16 games without a goal I heard Gowling mention on Saturday. Those who keep saying he will come good, I can see his skills trying to get out, we have faith in him etc etc need to open their eyes.

 

The lad just isn't ever going to fit in at Bolton, he just doesn't fit. He has been given every opportunity this season and apart from a lttle run before Christmas, he has failed to even look like a Premiership forward.

 

I have been willing to accept that he has played his part from time to time this season but fcuk me Mr Nearlyman is getting worse every game he plays.

 

 

If we continue to play him as the lone striker next season we are in for another very long season.

he did say

 

"Its scary how little people on this site know about football." on page 2 of this thread

 

and similar on more than one occasion of late

 

I watch loads of porn

 

doesn't make me don juan

 

that's just coincidental

 

im not claiming to be the font of all knowledge

 

someone said something along the lines of..."we dont need a prolific goalscorer, just someone who can score 15"

 

i think that backs up my claim about how little some people on this site know

If it's not his fault, why keep booing the lad? Maybe if we are supportive, he might start playing better.

 

Maybe if like any other player who was so badly struggling for form and fitness he was given time away from the spotlight to regain some of it. If we had 10 other players in that team who've played so ineffectively for the past few months we would have been relegated by early March.

Maybe if like any other player who was so badly struggling for form and fitness he was given time away from the spotlight to regain some of it. If we had 10 other players in that team who've played so ineffectively for the past few months we would have been relegated by early March.

I agree, maybe he should, but the booing obviously isn't helping.

Maybe if like any other player who was so badly struggling for form and fitness he was given time away from the spotlight to regain some of it. If we had 10 other players in that team who've played so ineffectively for the past few months we would have been relegated by early March.

 

But we havnt been relegated JSL

im not claiming to be the font of all knowledge

 

someone said something along the lines of..."we dont need a prolific goalscorer, just someone who can score 15"

 

i think that backs up my claim about how little some people on this site know

 

 

Come on, stop tip toeing around the subject.

 

What do you see in Elmander that we are all missing that brings you to the conclusion that he has had a good season?

 

Am I the only one who thinks hes had a good season?

But we havnt been relegated JSL

 

I think we're all adult enough to understand the arguement. Do you keep playing someone off form in the hope that it will eventually come right, or do you give them a rest on the bench for a while. Much better players than Elmander have been dropped and come back better players.

I dont believe that fans are stupid. Bolton fans probably have more knowledge than most IMO

 

 

I beg to differ on that point.

he did say

 

"Its scary how little people on this site know about football." on page 2 of this thread

 

and similar on more than one occasion of late

 

I watch loads of porn

 

doesn't make me don juan

 

that's just coincidental

 

It does make you a prize wanker though

I think we're all adult enough to understand the arguement. Do you keep playing someone off form in the hope that it will eventually come right, or do you give them a rest on the bench for a while. Much better players than Elmander have been dropped and come back better players.

 

I mentioned earlier in the thread that Elmander would be a good player having the right service, Megson has spent big on him and pereseveres with him due to the fee he paid. The lads lacking confidence so Meggo is trying to stand by him by putting faith in him by starting him, we are safe there are two games left, Smorleks off and Makkapakka aint great so for now let Johan finish the season in a starting spot, let him go away on holiday, buy some additional quality come back in July and get him scoring pre season ready for the start of the new season. Happy Days.

im not claiming to be the font of all knowledge

 

someone said something along the lines of..."we dont need a prolific goalscorer, just someone who can score 15"

 

i think that backs up my claim about how little some people on this site know

 

ok, just tell us why it's been a good season for him

 

i've not seen enough from him to think that it has been

 

he may come good next season, hope so, but hasn't been that good this

 

when people were slagging off taylor, they weren't taking into account the amount of work he actually did and more the fact he scored a few for pompey and presumed he was/is a goal scoring midfielder

 

elmander has only scored 5 goals, if his game had other sides to it then maybe it'd help, but it doesn't appear to, and neither should it, he was brought in to be a goal scorer, i'm well aware not many players get over say 12 a season, but he should be nearer to that than he is

 

it might not be his fault, I don't think our style suits him, but that's beside the point

 

i find it hard to say he's had a good season and am happy with him

when was he boo'ed?

It does make you a prize wanker though

 

no, thats just coincidental, too

ok, just tell us why it's been a good season for him

 

i've not seen enough from him to think that it has been

 

he may come good next season, hope so, but hasn't been that good this

 

when people were slagging off taylor, they weren't taking into account the amount of work he actually did and more the fact he scored a few for pompey and presumed he was/is a goal scoring midfielder

 

elmander has only scored 5 goals, if his game had other sides to it then maybe it'd help, but it doesn't appear to, and neither should it, he was brought in to be a goal scorer, i'm well aware not many players get over say 12 a season, but he should be nearer to that than he is

 

it might not be his fault, I don't think our style suits him, but that's beside the point

 

i find it hard to say he's had a good season and am happy with him

 

id agree with that, but he's got ability

 

hes shown glimpses, and most of em when hes had some support - on the pitch, not just the stands

 

as a scenario, magson knows the two types of players he wants

 

he can only afford one and in fact only one is available last summer

 

the other is available at the next window, hopefully

 

what does he do, not buy the one last summer cos he can't get both, thus risking not getting either of 'em?

 

hes long said its along job and it'll be piece meal

 

im a fan of elmander, i like some of what ive seen, biut it could've been better

 

i think we'd all accept that

 

im just waiting for the moaners and groaners to accept theyve not helped him

when was he boo'ed?

 

 

oh perleeeeease!

 

booed, slagged off, calls of 'oh fcuk off elmander'

 

all fall into the same pot for me

 

all eminate from wankers

 

if he wasn't trying, hes fair game

So he gets slagged off and not boo'ed.

 

Yeh, I've heard people slag him off.

We are all looking into this far too deeply. I mean fancy looking at form, goalscoring ratio, his seasons contribution, his injury hit season and lack of tactical preparation in the last 3rd to bring the best out of him. HE WILL COME GOOD ON SATURDAY. The reason for this is based on one very simple scientific formula that regular WWayers are aware of.

 

Player slumping in form + A YATESY SLAGGING OFF THREAD = The player coming good

 

We are all looking into this far too deeply. I mean fancy looking at form, goalscoring ratio, his seasons contribution, his injury hit season and lack of tactical preparation in the last 3rd to bring the best out of him. HE WILL COME GOOD ON SATURDAY. The reason for this is based on one very simple scientific formula that regular WWayers are aware of.

 

Player slumping in form + A YATESY SLAGGING OFF THREAD = The player coming good

 

 

 

You see through me mate all too easily.

I don't remember Garp claiming to be a football expert?

 

However, he does regularly watch more football than all the posters on this thread put together

Instead of defending the cock, who in my opinion shit out of the debate when it got too difficult for him answer this.

Why won't he explain why he thinks Elmander has had a good season?

Instead of defending the cock, who in my opinion shit out of the debate when it got too difficult for him answer this.

Why won't he explain why he thinks Elmander has had a good season?

 

Seems you're being the cock if you expect me to answer why someone else won't explain themselves...how am I supposed to do that?

The reason he gets stick on a regular basis is because he isnt actually playing very well. Not his fault he keeps being selected, moved onto the wing in the second half then subbed yet again.

 

I dont believe that fans are stupid. Bolton fans probably have more knowledge than most IMO, and they can recognise when a player so badly out of form is continually put in the spotlight to hopefully justify a fee- or not.

 

That is a big whole load of horseshit. You thought Elmander was left footed, shows how much you know!

Instead of defending the cock, who in my opinion shit out of the debate when it got too difficult for him answer this.

 

Do you speak to your mother with that mouth

I think Elmander is another example of a Megson signing with no great forethought as to how to get the best out of him.

Surely if a club of our size is going to spend that much money on him then he should have been the focal point?

Square pegs & round holes spring to mind!!

That is a big whole load of horseshit. You thought Elmander was left footed, shows how much you know!

 

I'll give you that it is hard to tell which is his strongest foot as he's barely capable of controlling a ball, but didnt he score a couple of nice left footed goals up in the NE back in November?

 

I've obviously not studied him as much as you have but he seems to prefer the ball on his left.

I think Elmander is another example of a Megson signing with no great forethought as to how to get the best out of him.

Surely if a club of our size is going to spend that much money on him then he should have been the focal point?

Square pegs & round holes spring to mind!!

 

can you name me another?

Coincidentally, I have just found a copy of the Bolton News dated June 25th 2008. The headline reads, 'Whites set for record swoop'.

An interesting paragraph is as follows:

'Elmander has returned to France after a frustrating time at Euro 2008 but his relative failure at the tournament has helped Wanderers to talk to his club, Toulouse into halving their asking price for the 27 year old'