Mounts Kipper Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 So players are no good unless theyve won something with theyre country? England havent won anything for ages does that make everybody in the squad no good? Sums up Bolton fans in general. Not sure it does sum up Bolton fans, we have far more good fans who back the team and the club than these negative halfwits.
tylswhite Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Not sure it does sum up Bolton fans, we have far more good fans who back the team and the club than these negative halfwits. I did word that a bit wrong, I meant it sums up the majority of Bolton fans. Most of our fans live in cuckoo land but there is a few who understand that people need time and patience is key.
Guest as Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 For the 50th time - ALL football fans moan! All of them - every club - we're no different. Or is it a pat on your back you're looking for?
Russell Sprout Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 For the 50th time - ALL football fans moan! All of them - every club - we're no different. Or is it a pat on your back you're looking for? Couldnt agree more, part of the game and always will be. I dont understand this self rightous attitude from a few on here.
jules_darby Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Couldnt agree more, part of the game and always will be. I dont understand this self rightous attitude from a few on here. Some on here are extremely self-righteous, but for everyone that is, there's somenone that wants to whinge at anything So, in balance, please explain Muamba is called into the U21's squad What exactly is there to moan about?
tylswhite Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 For the 50th time - ALL football fans moan! All of them - every club - we're no different. Or is it a pat on your back you're looking for? Some fans moan but ours take it to another level. Muamba gets u21 call up, lets have a fucking good old moan about that. Moan moan fucking moan its like a fucking whore house on here with all the moaning cunts.
enzo gambaro Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 however we have a player who is regarded as one of the best young players in the country by people who should be able to judge I'm still hopeful he'll come good (albeit a lot less confident than I was at the start of the season), but he isn't even the best U21 midfielder at our club, let alone everyone elses.
Russell Sprout Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Some on here are extremely self-righteous, but for everyone that is, there's somenone that wants to whinge at anything So, in balance, please explain Muamba is called into the U21's squad What exactly is there to moan about? Football forums are strange places. People who don't agree are called moaners. Those who claim to be positive, true fans are often the negative ones who say for example our club isnt good enough to compete any more or a cup run is bad for the club. Obviously a thread about Muamba will generate different opinions. We paid a lot for him, in Bolton terms, he didnt perform last season. I dont think he will be in the starting 11 if the under 21s reach the later stages but it's only an opinion, not moaning. Jenas gets in every England squad, but there's more chance of me being asked by Capello to dig out my boots than Jenas getting a game. The playground language used against anyone who doesnt tow the party line, now that's something worth a moan.
passmosster Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I'm still hopeful he'll come good (albeit a lot less confident than I was at the start of the season), but he isn't even the best U21 midfielder at our club, let alone everyone elses. I saw him come on at half time v France u 21s who were given us a pasting. He played in front of the back 4 and immediately there was half the space on the field. He looked excellent at that level doing what he does best, denying space, breaking up play, and giving it to someone on his own side with a short pass. Just like he did at Arsenal. The shooting and longer range passing seem to be a confidence point because he tries to do things too quickly. Snatches at shots, passes without looking, etc. He'll come good.
Guest as Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Some fans moan but ours take it to another level. Muamba gets u21 call up, lets have a fucking good old moan about that. Moan moan fucking moan its like a fucking whore house on here with all the moaning cunts. They don't. Villa fans booing Agbonlahor Arsenal fans booing Wenger I could go on, but need some dinner!
Guest leef78 Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Some fans moan but ours take it to another level. Muamba gets u21 call up, lets have a fucking good old moan about that. Moan moan fucking moan its like a fucking whore house on here with all the moaning cunts. No, they ALL fucking moan. I've got mates that are United, Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle fans, and they moan as much as any c?nt on here and thats a fact and they don't watch the shit we do week in week out (with the exception of Newcastle) . Muamba is a sore subject for a few, me included, I think he's utter shit and don't see much of a future for him at the top level. I hope he proves me wrong, but I'll stand by my previous comments.... he's a gerald Cid
Smiley Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 On the other hand, he may have a stunning tournament and get tapped up by a big club / Premiership new comer and we might get our money back on him and everyone's a winner. Think MK was being harsh putting Ring/Bell/Muamba in the same bracket. Ring & Bell weren't that poor. For the record - I'd love, love it, for Fabrice to come good - as I would for anyone pulling on a white shirt. But after some early promise I've lost faith in the lad - so its now up to him to restore that faith. Thats me sat on the fence then! PS. Would be a shite forum if everyone agreed.
Guest as Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Oh, forgot to add. Well done to Muamba, always good to see a Bolton player get called up Him and Elmander will come good next season
jules_darby Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Oh, forgot to add. Well done to Muamba, always good to see a Bolton player get called up Him and Elmander will come good next season Every now and then you make sense
tylswhite Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 No, they ALL fucking moan. I've got mates that are United, Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle fans, and they moan as much as any c?nt on here and thats a fact and they don't watch the shit we do week in week out (with the exception of Newcastle) . Muamba is a sore subject for a few, me included, I think he's utter shit and don't see much of a future for him at the top level. I hope he proves me wrong, but I'll stand by my previous comments.... he's a gerald Cid 1 bad season and the guy is utter shit and you dont see a future for him at the top level but he gets called up to the England u21 squad? Somebody is wrong
tyldesley_white Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 1 bad season and the guy is utter shit and you dont see a future for him at the top level but he gets called up to the England u21 squad? Somebody is wrong Then that would be Stuart Pearce then, you know the guy that captained Forest and England, as been a prem manager and now looks after all the future England players or some people who have probably never kicked a ball on a football field, as the saying goes them that can do, them that can't watch and in Bolton?s case also moan like fuck ... I will leave the choice upto you
THunter Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Then that would be Stuart Pearce then, you know the guy that captained Forest and England, as been a prem manager and now looks after all the future England players or some people who have probably never kicked a ball on a football field, as the saying goes them that can do, them that can't watch and in Bolton?s case also moan like fuck ... I will leave the choice upto you It's the Stuart Pearce who failed miserably as a Premier League manager. The Stuart Pearce who most on here reckoned was an idiot when he was in charge at City. The U-21 squad also has Joe Lewis (Peterborough), Scott Loach (Watford); Martin Cranie (Portsmouth), Kieran Gibbs who's played about 10 minutes for Arsenal and that World beater Lee Cattermole. If England had quality throughout the squad, Muamba wouldn't get a look in.
tyldesley_white Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 It's the Stuart Pearce who failed miserably as a Premier League manager. The Stuart Pearce who most on here reckoned was an idiot when he was in charge at City. The U-21 squad also has Joe Lewis (Peterborough), Scott Loach (Watford); Martin Cranie (Portsmouth), Kieran Gibbs who's played about 10 minutes for Arsenal and that World beater Lee Cattermole. If England had quality throughout the squad, Muamba wouldn't get a look in. So how many England caps do you have then, and how many times have you failed has a Premier League manager
DaveTheRave Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 2009-2010 is gonna be when we see what Muamba is all about. He's gonna be labled the new Vierra in newspaper columns and rumours of a ?20 million transfer to Arsenal will start in early December. Surging runs, tough tackles, killer passes and an eye for goal is what we will see next season. No longer will we cry ourselves to sleep over the loss of Captain Fantastic Kevin Nolan as we will have a new midfield marvel to help power us back into Europe. We're all going on a European Tour!!!!! Come on you WHITES!!!!
tyldesley_white Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 2009-2010 is gonna be when we see what Muamba is all about. He's gonna be labled the new Vierra in newspaper columns and rumours of a ?20 million transfer to Arsenal will start in early December. Surging runs, tough tackles, killer passes and an eye for goal is what we will see next season. No longer will we cry ourselves to sleep over the loss of Captain Fantastic Kevin Nolan as we will have a new midfield marvel to help power us back into Europe. We're all going on a European Tour!!!!! Come on you WHITES!!!! I like the cut of your jib
jules_darby Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 It's the Stuart Pearce who failed miserably as a Premier League manager. The Stuart Pearce who most on here reckoned was an idiot when he was in charge at City. The U-21 squad also has Joe Lewis (Peterborough), Scott Loach (Watford); Martin Cranie (Portsmouth), Kieran Gibbs who's played about 10 minutes for Arsenal and that World beater Lee Cattermole. If England had quality throughout the squad, Muamba wouldn't get a look in. It's an U21 squad and as such, it does have quality to it. What are you expecting? FFS
LodgeMorrWhite Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 Muamba has lacked confidence all season. AG on GMR said that he didnt think he was Premiership quality. I dont agree, I think he has promise but is not the finished article. He does get in some good positions, makes some decent runs but it is the final ball or finish that lets him down. Im no expert but I would imagine thats part of his game that can be improved. If he wasnt creating anything that would be worrying but that is not the case.
Garrp Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 It's the Stuart Pearce who failed miserably as a Premier League manager. The Stuart Pearce who most on here reckoned was an idiot when he was in charge at City. The U-21 squad also has Joe Lewis (Peterborough), Scott Loach (Watford); Martin Cranie (Portsmouth), Kieran Gibbs who's played about 10 minutes for Arsenal and that World beater Lee Cattermole. If England had quality throughout the squad, Muamba wouldn't get a look in. what an absolute planpot you are
Wobbly J Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 I saw him come on at half time v France u 21s who were given us a pasting. He played in front of the back 4 and immediately there was half the space on the field. He looked excellent at that level doing what he does best, denying space, breaking up play, and giving it to someone on his own side with a short pass. Just like he did at Arsenal. The shooting and longer range passing seem to be a confidence point because he tries to do things too quickly. Snatches at shots, passes without looking, etc. He'll come good. For the U21's our boy got on when things were going pear shaped - if George was still around he would provide stats on how many goals were scored against us when Muamba was on the pitch - I would suggest less than 1. I think we were 2 - 0 down against the Welsh after 20 minutes or so when he was introduced. He is money in the bank - will be worth a few bob at the end of next season provided we get a bit of craft in midfield to 'pull the strings'.
Lennie Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 He's a stopper and good at it. We need to play him in front of the back four, breaking up play, winning tackles and headers and laying the ball off to Mark Davies and a yet to be bought creative midfielder. If we do this I think he will come good. If we buy Veloso, Muamba will either be a squad player or be played out of position. He's not Vieira, he's not comfortable on the ball and should not be used as a 'box to box' player as he was this season. Have faith.
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