E D L march

[Guest bwfcdan]

Im glad i'll be in Londln out of the way.. Town centre is gonna be a warzone...

[BWFCOLINH58]

I'm devastated these clowns are coming to my town. Why Bolton? Because we have a history of Islamic fundementalism? No. It's because we've got a large Asian community and they want to create social friction in a town which doesn't really have a problem with integration.

 

Having a protest march about Islamic fundementalism is a bloody stupid idea anyway. Firstly, it's a bit like having a march against murder. It's obviously inherently wrong, so it's not like you have to raise awareness about it.

 

Secondly, what are they expecting to achieve? Are they hoping some closet terrorist is going to see the march and see the error of his ways?

 

Thirdly, it's massively counter productive. It'll drive a wedge between Muslims and non Muslims in the town, push us further apart and encourage the view that England is backward, racist society where they aren't welcome, which means they'll develop a seige mentality and retreat further into their own communities, making what is a well integrated town much less so.

 

 

If it goes ahead, I'll have to decide whether to leave it well alone, or go into town and stand up and be counted as one of the Boltonians who hates what these bastards stands for. The problem is, does that mean they win? Will they have succeeded in doing what they set out to do? Create anger. Divide communities. Cause havoc.

 

I hope it doesn't happen. Hate leads to more hate.

 

 

 

bit of a generalisation, i dont see you as awine drinking, oscar wilde loving vegan

 

bring on the march

[frank_spencer]

I wouldn't mind shagging a lass like that, just for the crack like, you know.

 

wouldn't mind a go myself TBH.

[mickbrown]

bolty it was aimed more at kent white talking shite saying theres good relations between us in the town.

 

the only good relations between the asians and white are the smack deals going down everyone day

 

you cant even get in a taxi with out the driver either being rude/ trying to ripp you off or just fucking stinking (except the odd few)

the edl has a large surport in bolton. there are terroist in bolton as been arrested by the met haven't they???

 

no balls you have just gone right up imo i would love to see that slut stoned to death and i would have no problems with punching her if she did that microphone shit in my presence

 

get the mayor of doncaster in that guy talks sense

 

 

Quality

 

I'm not racist but............

Edited January 28, 2010 by mickbrown

[Whizz]

Who foots the bill for these marches?

 

They should have to pay for the policing themselves.

[Smiffs]

Who foots the bill for these marches?

 

They should have to pay for the policing themselves.

 

 

Fair enough.

 

But while we're at it lets only charge Muslims the additional airport security costs too.

 

In fact, charge them double, triple even, because they're far more likely to blow the thing out of the sky than I am. Bugger it, lets go one step further and make all Muslims pay a 10% surchage on their taxes to go towards homeland security.

 

Reasonable?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[frank_spencer]

football clubs have to pay their policing costs.

Even scouts and church groups have to pay for the road closures and some of the police costs associated with any parades.

 

so should any political movement

[Smiffs]

Trouble is with that though is you get into a situation where free speech, nomatter what its persuasion, costs money which isn't right.

 

Would you make people protesting against Child Abuse pay for their policing costs?

[Whizz]

But they are not likely to be opposed by anyone, and wouldn't need policing.

[Mixu]

But they are not likely to be opposed by anyone, and wouldn't need policing.

 

 

In which case, the opposition of any protest should pay any policing costs, for it is them that make policing a neccessity.

Edited January 28, 2010 by Mixu

[MickyD]

Fair enough.

 

But while we're at it lets only charge Muslims the additional airport security costs too.

 

In fact, charge them double, triple even, because they're far more likely to blow the thing out of the sky than I am. Bugger it, lets go one step further and make all Muslims pay a 10% surchage on their taxes to go towards homeland security.

 

Reasonable?

 

Well said Sir. I can't believe the "I'm not racist but" mentality on here!

[Boby Brno]

If they do march and anyone who has no interest in them just ignored them and stayed away, then the police costs would be minimal. It would be the organised objectors who would determine the number of police present.

 

Another debate on racism that polarises peoples opinions. Judging by the numerous comments, it always appears to be the left leaning members are anti racist and that anyone who comes out with a racist comment must be, by default, right wing. (ie Daily Mail readers etc.)

 

It's perhaps a little ironic that Muslims are probably the most conservative religion/culture on earth and that some of their views, especially on women and homosexuality, are totally opposite to the left wing activists who will no doubt be involved in any counter demonstration.

 

I wouldn't get to worked up about the taxi driver comment. I'm pretty sure that most asian/muslim taxi drivers go home and complain to their families about another night of ferrying drunken white/western/british/honky/non believer fares around. (I think that some asian/mulims are actually racist too!)

[Smiffs]

But they are not likely to be opposed by anyone, and wouldn't need policing.

 

 

If you had a different opinion than me (and to be honest I'm only playing devils advocate because there's fuck all on telly) should you have to pay the police for that opinion to be heard, just in case I turn up and hit you with an axe?

[Smiffs]

wouldn't mind a go myself TBH.

 

 

sorry frank, missed this.

 

You know the rules.....pictures!

[Tyler Durden]

I'll be there....

 

 

 

.......working

[Ani]

But they are not likely to be opposed by anyone, and wouldn't need policing.

 

the point of a democracy is that you are free to express your views, not just views that everyone else agrees with.

[leigh white]

I wonder if the Newton Heath lot will turn up?

[frank_spencer]

Trouble is with that though is you get into a situation where free speech, nomatter what its persuasion, costs money which isn't right.

 

Would you make people protesting against Child Abuse pay for their policing costs?

 

if they were holding any form of procession on public land then they would have to inform the police/council who would tell them how much their plannned march/protest would cost.

 

the council generally foots the bill for St Georges/Rememberence parades and ward coucillors can dip into their pots for any local processions they wish to support.

 

Thanks to the ambulance chasing lawyers that's the way it works now.

[frank_spencer]

sorry frank, missed this.

 

You know the rules.....pictures!

 

Just remembered someone else from the office lurks/posts on here.

 

 

Hahaha

[ralph gubbins]

If we get through to the fa cup round 6, the Edl march is on the same day .

NOW WOULDNT THAT BE INTERESTING

[Whizz]

If you had a different opinion than me (and to be honest I'm only playing devils advocate because there's fuck all on telly) should you have to pay the police for that opinion to be heard, just in case I turn up and hit you with an axe?

 

No. But I consider myself apathetic on this particular subject. And it is the subject that causes the problem.

 

If it were a march aimed at getting more meat in Wilsons pies (something I am passionate about) then there wouldn't need to be a police presence and you wouldn't want to bury your axe in my head.

[richbwfc]

Not going to read through the whole thread, as quite frankly I can't be arsed.

However, on the train up to Bolton on saturday for the SheffUnited game, I came across the "Woleverhampton Division".

They all seemed well up for a fight, not only with any opposition they faced, but with other "divisions" within the EDL.

I'm never one to be afraid of showing Im a Bolton fan, but Im quite glad I didnt have my Bolton shirt on for the 30 minutes they were on the train...

[M G WHITES]

It'll be rent a mob all round tbh. I do hope that bitch with the loud speaker doesn't turn up though. I'd be quite happy to hit her really hard in her, more than probably ungroomed, fanny!

 

Dirty horrible slag,booing during a minute silence for our troops that the EDL had,fcuk the muslim extremists, dirty scum

 

The EDL are better people than the scum who turned up during the soilders homecoming parade shouting abuse at our troops

 

they should have been nicked and locked up for treason,colour has fcuk all to do with it, what happened that day at the homecoming should never

 

ever happen again and if the EDL prevent this then fair play to them

Edited January 28, 2010 by M G WHITES

[MickyD]

Not going to read through the whole thread, as quite frankly I can't be arsed.

However, on the train up to Bolton on saturday for the SheffUnited game, I came across the "Woleverhampton Division".

They all seemed well up for a fight, not only with any opposition they faced, but with other "divisions" within the EDL.

I'm never one to be afraid of showing Im a Bolton fan, but Im quite glad I didnt have my Bolton shirt on for the 30 minutes they were on the train...

Bloody hell, long time no posts! How's your cricket bat?

[Smiffs]

No. But I consider myself apathetic on this particular subject. And it is the subject that causes the problem.

 

If it were a march aimed at getting more meat in Wilsons pies (something I am passionate about) then there wouldn't need to be a police presence and you wouldn't want to bury your axe in my head.

 

But then I would be telling you that you should be eating Dawsons pies in the first place