Sergio Canales from Real Madrid according to Talkshite

 

My link

Completely agree, I think any back 4 would struggle with the way Coyle wants his teams to play.

 

That said neither Cahill or Zat Knight covered themselves in glory at the weekend.

Manchester City could scupper Wigan's hopes of signing Bolton goalkeeper Ali Al-Habsi for ?2m

Manchester City could scupper Wigan's hopes of signing Bolton goalkeeper Ali Al-Habsi for ?2m

 

?2M or ?5M??

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1334529/Fulham-consider-5m-January-Boltons-loan-ranger-Ali-Al-Habsi.html

?2M or ?5M??

 

http://www.dailymail...i-Al-Habsi.html

 

 

at 1st i thought why would city want him?

but then who do they have after hart, once given leaves?

 

then i thought why would al habsi want to be 2nd choice again?

but then i thought, they probably double/triple/quaduple his wages without even thinking about it.

 

 

fulhams a non-starter

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by HomerJay

city, fulham

 

arab owners

 

2+2 makes 22

think that's more tactics than personnel

Glad someone else has seen it

 

We get done consistently from midfield runners, particularly the opposing wide players

 

This is primarily due to Lee & Petrov

 

Though some would prefer to blame Ricketts and Robbo as they don't do lovely stepovers

Glad someone else has seen it

 

We get done consistently from midfield runners, particularly the opposing wide players

 

This is primarily due to Lee & Petrov

 

Though some would prefer to blame Ricketts and Robbo as they don't do lovely stepovers

 

Our full backs have performed much much better than our wingers imo. Our wingers have been poor going forward imo and defensively Chungy and Petrov dont even try. At the beginning of the season I thought full backs were our weakest area but i would say our wingers are becoming a bit of a concern.

Glad someone else has seen it

 

We get done consistently from midfield runners, particularly the opposing wide players

 

This is primarily due to Lee & Petrov

 

Though some would prefer to blame Ricketts and Robbo as they don't do lovely stepovers

 

have +1 sir

?2M or ?5M??

 

http://www.dailymail...i-Al-Habsi.html

 

That was from 1st December. Schwarzer has now signed a new deal

Our full backs have performed much much better than our wingers imo. Our wingers have been poor going forward imo and defensively Chungy and Petrov dont even try. At the beginning of the season I thought full backs were our weakest area but i would say our wingers are becoming a bit of a concern.

I think that's harsh on Chungy.

 

Player starts/tackles won/tackles lost

 

Robbo 18/33/20

Matty 7/12/3

Petrov 12/6/2

 

Ricketts 7/19/3

Steinsson 12/26/9

Chungy 17/29/5

 

I'd say that suggests he does his bit.

 

Doesn't do Petrov any favours, mind.

you cant fault lee for his effort.

 

he just aint a defender, which is fair enough.

 

 

petrov is a bone-idle cunt and doesnt offer enough going foward to justify us carrying him. IMHO of course.

 

 

i didnt realise ricketts tackling was such dogshit.

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by HomerJay

Right, you can't compare midfielders and fullbacks on tackling stats alone as oftent he types of tackles are very very different

 

Compare the same positions - yeah OK

 

But bollocks to the rest of it - the most tackles was always Davies year on year (though I reckon Holden could push him this time out) does that make all the defenders wank?

 

Chung Lee tries - and it's not a lack of dilligence as such, but his positioning often leaves the full-back behind him stuck versus 2 players.

Right, you can't compare midfielders and fullbacks on tackling stats alone as oftent he types of tackles are very very different

Compare the same positions - yeah OK

 

But bollocks to the rest of it - the most tackles was always Davies year on year (though I reckon Holden could push him this time out) does that make all the defenders wank?

 

Chung Lee tries - and it's not a lack of dilligence as such, but his positioning often leaves the full-back behind him stuck versus 2 players.

 

 

i dont think that was the intended comparison.

 

 

plus you'd kinda hope learns and improves his positional sense.

 

i reckon petrov will ALWAYS be lazy, and never have any interest in defending

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by HomerJay

Was it balls the intended comparison.

 

The stats show both left back and right back make about the same number of tackles and that Chungy and Taylor (2 tackles per game)provide better cover than Petrov (0.66 tackles a game).

 

There's more to it, obviously, but I think it's fairly accurate.

 

I'd say Ricketts' stats were pretty good, Homer.

Was it balls the intended comparison.

 

The stats show both left back and right back make about the same number of tackles and that Chungy and Taylor (2 tackles per game)provide better cover than Petrov (0.66 tackles a game).

 

There's more to it, obviously, but I think it's fairly accurate.

 

I'd say Ricketts' stats were pretty good, Homer.

Fair enough

 

Regardign right back - I honestly don't know which of the 2 I would prefer

 

I still think we'd be a better unit in support of the defence overall and without stifling the attack too much with M Davies on the right, Taylor on the left and Holden and Muamba in the middle....

Was it balls the intended comparison.

 

The stats show both left back and right back make about the same number of tackles and that Chungy and Taylor (2 tackles per game)provide better cover than Petrov (0.66 tackles a game).

 

There's more to it, obviously, but I think it's fairly accurate.

 

I'd say Ricketts' stats were pretty good, Homer.

 

youre correct they are, not sure what i read???

 

 

 

i reckon the robbo lost ones are a little misleading, as he properly smashed the player instead.

Edited December 22, 201015 yr by HomerJay

If anything, it shows just how good Robinson has been this season.

Lee has only lost 5 tackles this season? Out of them 29 he has apparantly made how many do you think were actual proper tackles where he actually tried to win the ball? He often sticks a foot out but thats about it. He has time to develop this at least.

 

Petrov on the other hand is just a disgrace when it comes to defence or teamwork as a whole. He doesnt give a fuck about the team imo, he is only interested when he has the ball and even then he just shoots from 40 yards.

If anything, it shows just how good Robinson has been this season.

 

I have to agree with this, apart from Holden i think Robbo has been our best and most consistant player,

I have to agree with this, apart from Holden i think Robbo has been our best and most consistant player,

Aye, I fucking love him, me.

 

He's really won me round this season.

Hands up, I've said this many times - I thought he was too slow and immobile for Premiership football

 

But, he's performed very well this season

 

Don't get me wrong, I don't think he's one of the best fullbacks in the league, but he'll do for me

 

For now

The winger full back debate just boils down to Coyle placing the emphasis on attack not defence doesn't it? So if you are a defender in a coyle team you might be left high and dry a few times just like if you were an attacker (Elmo) you'd be left high and dry in a Megson team - so on that basis I'd agree i think the full backs have done very well this year all things considered I've always liked Robbo he's a better footballer in terms of distribution than he gets credit for as well

I like Petrov and think he brings a lot to the team

 

I think we have enough tackle in midfield to cover his lack of

 

I wouldn't put anyone on the left before him

 

he's what we've been crying out for, particulary under Megson

We've scored 30 goals in 18 game 4th highest goalscorers in Prem so attack play is not issue but just one clean sheet all season which proves we're struggling at the back compared to 9 clean sheets for Mackems.

 

Anyone know how many points goals scored conceded after 18 games last season as a comparison.

I like Petrov and think he brings a lot to the team

 

I think we have enough tackle in midfield to cover his lack of

 

I wouldn't put anyone on the left before him

 

he's what we've been crying out for, particulary under Megson

 

He brings a lot to the team? Like what? I seriously cant see what good he does for us at all. The last two away games City and Sunderland he has been so bad we could of played lofty (the lion not the legend) in his place and got more out of him.