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coiyle is clearly agood motivator

 

but can he identify good players and get them to sign

 

for me, the jury is very much out

 

and before you chuck wilshere at me, he was hardly a nobody and to be honest, in the cold light of day, he contributed a goal and an assist

 

same as weiss

 

I'll give you Weiss as he wasn't even a team player, just tricks with little else, but you can't say Wilshire didn't do owt other than score and get an assist

 

he was a class player and a key reason in our resurgance from Jan-May - good engine, got the ball, took it forward, distributed well

 

like saying Muamba has only scored a goal for us this season done nowt else

A bit premature I think Cassie. He has only had one window in which to business, you cant really include last January, when did he arrive 8-9 or something? It would have been a mad time with everything going on. Also Jan windows can be very dodgy times, panic buys inflated prices etc(Elmander quoted at 20odd million for example)

I agree we need improving especially around the defensive area but I wouldnt be too disappointed if we did no business at all. I still think a top 10 finish is a good season even though it might seem a disappointment considering we have been top 8 all year. Europe could be too soon next season.

 

Bang on the money.

thing is

 

as we have a decent squad, you can say that about most positions

 

at the end of the day, if Coyle thinks he's better than what we have, we bring them in and play them ahead of Klasnic/Davies/Elmander/whoever

 

eh ?

 

we had no midfield players or defenders on the bench on New Years Day.

Funny how quick football changes, 6-12 months ago, you needed full backs, wingers, strikes, subs and midfielders.....now you have a decent squad, competeing for a Euro spot.

 

Thats why we love this sport.

eh ?

 

we had no midfield players or defenders on the bench on New Years Day.

 

I was answering the question as to where we play Vela if all our other forwards stay fit - and said if he's better than them, he gets a game, same goes for every position

 

for example, Holden has been out for few times of late so do we

 

a) go for someone "not as good" as Holden, so we can put him on the bench (and lack ambition), or

go for someone "better" who displaces Holden in the team

 

same goes for LBs, RBs and CBs

 

if everyone stays fit, what's the point in signing anyone?

 

answer being, if they're better than what we have, it will make us better

I was answering the question as to where we play Vela if all our other forwards stay fit - and said if he's better than them, he gets a game, same goes for every position

 

for example, Holden has been out for few times of late so do we

 

a) go for someone "not as good" as Holden, so we can put him on the bench (and lack ambition), or

go for someone "better" who displaces Holden in the team

 

same goes for LBs, RBs and CBs

 

if everyone stays fit, what's the point in signing anyone?

 

answer being, if they're better than what we have, it will make us better

 

fair enough...but......if a forward is injured we have 3 or 4 options, in midfiled we have 1 or 2 in defence 1 or 2.

 

not sure if the 4 subs at liverpool is OCs way of making the point we need some money to spend but i had nt realsied how short we are, not sure will be much better on Weds. (robinson back so we can have a full back on the bench)

not sure if the 4 subs at liverpool is OCs way of making the point we need some money to spend

 

Couldn't he just pick up the 'phone and speak to Phil or Eddie?

fair enough...but......if a forward is injured we have 3 or 4 options, in midfiled we have 1 or 2 in defence 1 or 2.

 

not sure if the 4 subs at liverpool is OCs way of making the point we need some money to spend but i had nt realsied how short we are, not sure will be much better on Weds. (robinson back so we can have a full back on the bench)

 

apart from the numbers, which is a worry - it's really the injury to Holden that shows us up as being short, as we really don't look the same team without him - with him back and fit, generally we seem to be able to cover everywhere else without looking too much weaker (but then we lose 2 FBs and it starts to look flimsy there too)

 

to me, it would seem if we are to strengthn the midfield, we need to look for a better player in Muamba's position - which this Utrecht player might be

 

as for in defence, we'd have to bring a 3rd choice CB in

 

the York game should also be interesting as to what a 2nd string is these days

FWIW I think coyle will be looking for a right back as there's no sign of gretski getting offered a new deal and I think it's an area we can strengthen that then leaves Ricketts as CB cover for departed AOB and Right back again. If we sell Cahill which I think is unlikely unless we get a silly bid which is possible with Chelsea so seemingly "poor" at the minute we'll then swoop late for a centre half - curtis davies etc etc.

 

Maybe get Vela in either to replace Elmo if he goes which is unlikely or offer cover at right wing while Chungys away.

 

I reckon thats the only business he will look to do - when he gets shut of 5-6 players in summer out of contract and possibly Cahill and Elmo then we'll really see him shape his squad and that's then the time to really judge him - so far he's got a loan signing in Weiss wrong so no great wrong doing there but he's got Stu Holden for free on a long term deal who is absolutely class and worth at least ?5-6m now let alone in 2 years so I'd say his track record although short and restricted is very very good....Petrov has his critics yes as his marquee signing but he's been good in patches and earnt us at least 2 points with goals v blackpool and United - and for that matter blake came off the bench and has earnt us a point v brum - have faith

Edited January 4, 201115 yr by onlyoneawalker

Reading between the lines and listening to things Coyle has said on TV etc, the Robbie Blake signing had much to do with RB's influence in a dressing room: a unifying spirit kind of person, who'd also be useful for a 15min burst as a sub if necessary.

so far he's got a loan signing in Weiss wrong

 

i didn't say weiss was wrong

 

he created one for taylor and won the free kick for the other at stoke

 

 

Petrov has his critics yes as his marquee signing but he's been good in patches and earnt us at least 2 points with goals v blackpool and United - and for that matter blake came off the bench and has earnt us a point v brum - have faith

 

he also cost us 2 with his abysmal effort at west brom

 

 

point is, his 2 biggest deals (if we can agree petrov and alonso fit the bill) have so far seen little payback and we may be about to see him invest some serious money if cahill goes

 

petrov is now seemingly behind rodrigo, who i've got down in the 'not bad at all' column

 

and alonso might be a world beater one day, but it won't be this season

 

when money is tight, its an odd one, unless it swung the rodrigo deal with some agent or other...and to be fair, maybe he didn't really cost 2 million

Edited January 4, 201115 yr by Casino

coiyle is clearly agood motivator

 

but can he identify good players and get them to sign

 

for me, the jury is very much out

 

and before you chuck wilshere at me, he was hardly a nobody and to be honest, in the cold light of day, he contributed a goal and an assist

 

same as weiss

 

So if Wilshere was 'hardly a nobody' he must have had a few clubs to choose from, but he still chose us, so that probably answers your question.

if cahill goes for ?18M as looks more and more likely............

 

?14M profit so ?3.5M to Villa (i think)

 

Asssume eddie takes his ?4M back....that leaves ?11M....with wages say means we can sign 2 players for ?4M each bearing in mind cahills wage goes.....

 

So you have ?8M and 2 players to buy...I think 1 has to be a centre half and 1 one other......

 

 

Go on....sensible suggestions only....you need a centre half and 1 other........

richard dunne

 

 

Richards from city available cb and rb to boot!

did we not buy off the sell on?

Richards from city available cb and rb to boot!

If we could nip in ahead of Sunderland, which may be unlikely as they're doing pretty well, I'd have a cheeky bid for Nedum Onuoha

 

I rate him higher than Richards and I know alot of City's back room staff do too

If we could nip in ahead of Sunderland, which may be unlikely as they're doing pretty well, I'd have a cheeky bid for Nedum Onuoha

 

I rate him higher than Richards and I know alot of City's back room staff do too

 

Cracking player he is. Although I doubt he'd come to us now he's spent a bit of time at Sunderland - rightly so really. I think Micah Richards would be an fantastic signing - although he's probably looking for a 'bigger' club and bet his wages are out of our league.

Wheater for the rumoured ?1.5m it'll take to get him? At least he potentially has his best years ahead of him.

Redknapp has said he's open to offers for, Keane and Bentley, worth a punt, wouldn't cost much either to land them?

Redknapp has said he's open to offers for, Keane and Bentley, worth a punt, wouldn't cost much either to land them?

 

 

said he wanted ?29m, for them two and kranjaer.

 

i think he is taking the piss.

said he wanted ?29m, for them two and kranjaer.

 

i think he is taking the piss.

 

Really? According to SSN.com, West Ham, Birmingham, Sunderland and Newcastle have shown interest.

 

Surely we could beat off these clubs for their signatures?

 

Kranjaer would be a fantastic addition to the squad.

do you think the priority should be attacking players? (Keane)

 

or wide players? (Bentley)

 

I would nt cry if we were linked with Sidwell, however that is based on seeing about 10 minutes of games from about 4 years ago.

Curtis Davies.

do you think the priority should be attacking players? (Keane)

 

or wide players? (Bentley)

 

I would nt cry if we were linked with Sidwell, however that is based on seeing about 10 minutes of games from about 4 years ago.

 

See where you're coming from. I really do hope Owen's priority is our shocking defence. But, if these kind of players come available on the cheap, then why not take a punt?

 

Few injurys and our squad is dire. Strength in depth is vital in the premier league, and these 2 are more than capable.

 

Just putting it out there like.