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Big Sam....

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I will forever be grateful for what Sam did for Bolton. I never dreamed we would be as good as we were under Sam and can't see us being that good again.Anyone who could get Bolton into 6th place with a record signing of £4 million as Sam did will understandably think very highly of themself.Without him it is possible we would now be into a 15th year outside the PL because we were in worse shape than we are now when Sam arrived.

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  • burndenpaddock
    burndenpaddock

    2nd highest gate in the division yesterday, not bad considering who we were playing.   I'd have him back in a shot. Sam took me to places I'd never thought i'd watch BWFC and mostly gave us the resu

  • Now that the "his head was bigger than the club" argument put forward by a few on here has been shown to be bollocks, I'm interested to know why you think he was that bad. Just watching him this morni

  • onlyoneawalker
    onlyoneawalker

    He was backed with as much as we could if it ain't there you can't spend it

just look at the stadium yesterday

 

We have virtually been there before even in the premierhip in terms of numbers and atmosphere on numerous occasions, we play Leeds soon that will be a good crowd and a good atmosphere, once we start playing some decent stuff the atmosphere will improve.

Double post.

Edited by Mounts Kipper

he's a cunt

I bet Fat Sam had a new signing he wanted to make every fucking day.

 

Samuel Eto'o would have been a young lad surely, had he come here he may never have developed into the player he did. He wasn't that physical was he? Chasing long balls and throw-ins.

It was 2004 and he had been on loan to Mallorca who ended up signing him for 4mill with a clause that they would share any profit with Real or he would go back, didnt want to go back to Real Madrid and was looking for a move to the Prem. Sam wanted the board to back him with an 8 mill euro bid, and an understanding he would be sold if a bid in excess of 15 mill came in. Board would'nt take the chance and Sam ended up walking.

Eto signed for Barcelona from Real for 24 mill euro's.

Edited by hughmungus

Sam wanted the board to back him with an 8 mill euro bid, and an understanding he would be sold if a bid in excess of 15 mill came in. Board would'nt take the chance and Sam ended up walking.

 

but not until after we'd spent 8 million on anelka

 

and mallorca sold etoo to barcelona in 2004 for 24 million euros

 

so, either you are talking shit or fat man is

 

i'll leave it to you to tell the class

Edited by Casino

woulda, coulda, shoulda

 

eddies money and he will spend as he see's fit.

 

i'm happy with that.

 

without him, we would a fukcin lot worse off than we are now.

 

 

but i would have sam back, as i think he 10x the manager coyle is currenlty.

So that's Vidic, Eto'o and Drogba he has claimed. Any more?

 

Has Franck Ribery mentioned yet? Another one where he had a deal lined up only for Garslime to pull the plug ... allegedly.

 

I'd have him back in an instant though FWIW.

It was 2004 and he had been on loan to Mallorca who ended up signing him for 4mil

 

Believable if you'd said 2000, otherwise laughable. If Eto had wanted to come to the Prem in 2004 for €8,000,000, I can name 20 teams that would have snapped him up. In 2000 when he was a kid, not so many.

Has Franck Ribery mentioned yet? Another one where he had a deal lined up only for Garslime to pull the plug ... allegedly.

 

I'd have him back in an instant though FWIW.

 

Edit: Whilst Darkside is here it's never going to happen, regardless of whether West Ham give him the boot or not.

Here's the quote from Big Sam:

He was at Mallorca and I had to try and convince the chairman at the time that the eight million euros would have been the best eight million euros he'd ever spent and this player would be worth 20 to 25 million in the future. The thing was, we could have got him to come to England and at that particular time he would have been a bit of a capture.

 

 

In January of 2000, a then-eighteen year old Eto'o was sent on loan to Mallorca from Real Madrid after failing to impress on an earlier loan at Espanyol (where me didn't manage a single appearance). In the Mallorca stint, Eto'o managed six goals from 19 appearances in the second half of the season, impressing his new bosses.

At the start of the following season, Mallorca agreed with Madrid for the permanent transfer of Eto'o. The player would be a record signing for his new club at a reported fee of £4.4 million. He stayed with them until 2004. In his four seasons with the club, Samuel scored 48 in 120 and gained widespread attention throughout La Liga. Barcelona would then purchase him that summer for a fee of €24 million.

Big Sam, who managed Bolton from 1999 to 2007 would have tried to sign Eto'o between 2000 and 2004, likely closer to the first date. At that point, Eto'o was under 21 years old and €8 million for a player of that age is absurd. Many still believe that Bolton signing Marvin Sordell (23 years old) for about £3 million last winter was a total waste. To put it into perspective, just five years before Eto'o signed for Mallorca, Stan Collymore held the record for the highest English transfer fee at £8.5 million in his move to Liverpool from Nottingham Forest. Collymore scored 41 goals in 65 appearances for Nottingham Forest.

Bolton's record transfers at that point were much more modest than that. Until 2005, when Bolton paid £4 million for El-Hadji Diouf, their record transfer fees came in 1997 when the pair of Robbie Elliott and Dean Holdsworth cost £6 million. The record was broken in 2006 with the £8 million signing of Nicolas Anelka and again two years later with the £8.2 million Elmander transfer.

The Trotters have never had much money to spend and the supposed case with Eto'o is no different. Even now, 10+ years after the fact, the team struggles to sign players for at a third of that price. It's really understandable that if (and it's a big if) Allardyce had the chance to sign Eto'o that Gartside did not want to release the relatively massive funds for an unproven youngster in La Liga.

 

the other side of the story

 

 

http://www.lionofvie...ned-samuel-etoo

Edited by Casino

 

 

Believable if you'd said 2000, otherwise laughable. If Eto had wanted to come to the Prem in 2004 for €8,000,000, I can name 20 teams that would have snapped him up. In 2000 when he was a kid, not so many.

Could it not have been just like Anelka, where bigger clubs let us take the chance first.

Anelka had burnt his bridges elsewhere on numerous occasions by him own admission. They're not really like for like examples.

 

Could it not have been just like Anelka, where bigger clubs let us take the chance first.

Anelka had proved he could play in this league already, but had baggage, surely?

 

Eto'o was utterly unproven. Look at what Salva Ballesta did despite being a top marksman in La Liga.

did he mention nearly signing Dado Prso as well?

What about Akinori Nishizawa, Lord Kangana, John O'Kane, Jon Otsemobor, Djibril Diawara, Oscar Perez, Bulent Akin, Gerald Cid et al?

I'd take anything he says with a huge bucket of salt.

 

"I'm going to sue the BBC" for example.

ennio morricone, too

 

i think allardyces record in signing players stands up pretty well

 

but, he was a bit of a kid in a sweetshop, if he's honest

 

not that honesty is something i expect from him

What about Akinori Nishizawa, Lord Kangana, John O'Kane, Jon Otsemobor, Djibril Diawara, Oscar Perez, Bulent Akin, Gerald Cid et al?

 

Remember when Kangana sat in our end at Anfield after we had signed him, think that is the closest he got to the first team.

What about Akinori Nishizawa, Lord Kangana, John O'Kane, Jon Otsemobor, Djibril Diawara, Oscar Perez, Bulent Akin, Gerald Cid et al?

 

Perhaps they came personally recommended by Our Craig so it's not Sam's fault.

 

 

Perhaps they came personally recommended by Our Craig so it's not Sam's fault.

Had anyone seen fat boy recently? Has he moved down to the bright lights in daddy's annex?

emanuelle morini was always my fave

 

did he even play?

 

seem to remember him warming up at huddersfield (a season ticket holder didnt tell me btw)

 

bandy legged little fucker

Yes, he was the greatest. Not pretty football, but he brought in individuals who could still give the entertainment factor, I'd love to go back to when we won 5 in a row over christmas, challenging for Champions League and seen him given money for the January Transfer window, we have fell from then, his exit wasn't good, but the good outways the bad by an absolute massive margin.

emanuelle morini was always my fave

 

did he even play?

 

seem to remember him warming up at huddersfield (a season ticket holder didnt tell me btw)

 

bandy legged little fucker

 

changed his name when on trial to keep it a secret such was his potential/demand

 

played once or something

 

just did a wiki and looks like he's once played in Bulgaria for Botev Plovdiv

 

scored his debut goal here:

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and then:

 

On October 30, 2009, Morini scored the crucial winning goal against the city rivals Lokomotiv Plovdiv, and helped his team to win the derby with 1:0

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