Do any of you remember a lad of Indian descent who used to run with the Wanderers lads in the mid 1970's,initials MF ?

 

M still lives and works in Bolton,and very well known indeed,but stopped going to the match esp after a certain incident and being best friends with the accused

 

 

He's given me a whole stack of pictures and original newspaper cuttings from those days,i may upload some but some might not be in the best taste,and out of respect for others

one pic which may be ok to look at is available on Blackpool's Muckers site,section 'Darker Stories'....on that thread,scroll down to the end and there's a couple of acceptable pics from Bloomfield Road,1974

 

 

 

 

http://z11.invisionfree.com/MUCKERS/ar/t123.htm

They rarely got beyond their first goal.

 

It might be me but I find it really arrogant of them to infiltrate home sections and then cheer when their team scores. If they keep schtum I don't have a problem.

 

Couple of years ago we had a fairly old couple in our section of the WSL, no problem until the woman decided to get her United scarf out and put it around her neck, Steward decided she was going out.

Don't remember any of the filth staying in there

A few may have goy in cut they certainly wouldn't have stayed long

i know i was answering paul hanleys post

Was on the Lever End as a five year old for the Chelsea and Wolves games in 76/7. Clearly remember the carnage of the Lever End v Chelsea. Got knocked over in the middle of it all. My Dad caught the Chelsea fan who did it and thumped him. He was on the point of being arrested but a more senior copper came along and said to leave him because he'd seen what had happened, but then gave my Dad a right bollocking and told him they'd got enough on their plate without the likes of him getting involved. We ended up in the Manny Road stand having been escorted out along the running track.

 

I remember the Wolves trouble on the last day of 76/7 but not in as much detail.

 

By 77/78 we were in the Manny Road Stand up near the Embankment with a season ticket each. Don't remember much trouble from that season but the Leeds match in 78/9 after we'd been promoted I remember as clear as day. Housebricks showering from the Leeds fans on the Embankment to the Paddock ... and back! Like a scene from Beiruit. Bolton won 3-1 but Leeds went 0-1 up in the first half and I remember the wild celebrations of their fans in the Embankment (they had to open up the middle section because there were so many of them).

 

A lot of talk about United in 74/5. Don't remember that. I do remember 79/80 (lost 1-3) with loads of filth in the Manny Road North Terrace singing "Hark now hear, United sing, the Bolton ran away" all through the game. Bolton fans in the stand got some threats for celebrating when Neil Whatmore scored our only goal.

 

Remember all the Chelsea episodes in the early 80s and one not many seem to mention .... West Ham in 80/81. Just remember a huge battle starting out of nowhere on the Manny Road North terrace, seemed to go on for ever, blood spilt, no quarter given. The coppers were very, very slow to react. When they got there it all seemed to stop as suddenly as it had started.

 

i remember the west ham incident very well even though i was only 13 or so. there were quite a few skins amongst them wearing the green flying jackets. a good number from sunning hill youth club stood their ground manfully that day

 

 

i remember the west ham incident very well even though i was only 13 or so. there were quite a few skins amongst them wearing the green flying jackets. a good number from sunning hill youth club stood their ground manfully that day

 

I remember West Ham in the Manny Road I was in the Burnden Paddock it looked very naughty and no quarter given by both sides and went on for a good while, did not think it was that long ago though, it was one of the worst brawls I have seen at Burnden even though the numbers were not massive it was pretty intense, any old boys on here take part?

I remember West Ham in the Manny Road I was in the Burnden Paddock it looked very naughty and no quarter given by both sides and went on for a good while, did not think it was that long ago though, it was one of the worst brawls I have seen at Burnden even though the numbers were not massive it was pretty intense, any old boys on here take part?

 

you definitely know a few involved pal. like i mentioned above,quite a good few of the daubhill/morris green lot who would have been about 17/18 then plus some infamous older heads. it was really naughty when it went off,not massive numbers like you say,but the Bolton lot certainly surprised the Cockney wide boys

I remember West Ham in the Manny Road I was in the Burnden Paddock it looked very naughty and no quarter given by both sides and went on for a good while, did not think it was that long ago though, it was one of the worst brawls I have seen at Burnden even though the numbers were not massive it was pretty intense, any old boys on here take part?

 

We were on the Burnden terrace in them days, saw the incident as it unfolded but couldn't join in

Aston Villa brought a decent mob down in 73, a few tried to have a go near the L/E but failed. The usual chase up Manny Rd after the match ensued and some broke away over the footbridge but got caught up with near the Cattle Market. It was just another day out then.

i remember the newcastle episode in 82 when keegan was at the start of his geordie career. I was walking down lever st and hundreds were brawling outside the Nightingale,not exactly renown for matchday trouble but 4 coachloads of them lot had been in there since first knockings. Bolton had mobbed up and a right set to ensued for a good 15mins IIRC. That was the catalyst for absolute chaos for the entire 90 mins inside Burnden Park.

That game was probably the most violent i ever saw at Burnden. Splendid entertainment for a 14 year old impressionable lad

Tho I was born in 1973 Ididnt really start going proper to games til I was about 14 or 15 when I could pay for me own ticket (me dad couldnt afford to take me that much before then) and being brought up around Burnley I didnt have any mates that were Bolton fans so I never really got to hear any gossip or stories about the "darker" side of the game and to be fair I havent really seen all that much in my time either so I love all these old stories keep them coming.

Maybe someone should collect them all up and put them in a book ?

We've got a couple of authors on here, you know.

We've got a couple of authors on here, you know.

 

i may get round to publishing my memoirs one day,but too busy renovating Horwich City at the moment

i may get round to publishing my memoirs one day,but too busy renovating Horwich City at the moment

 

Rome wasn't built in a day, but I think Horwich was.

The 78/79 game against man u wasnt as bad as when we played then in the 74 season

As far as i rembember the scum fans were in the burnden paddack but got legged out

I remember the villa fans runnung round to the lever end

From the embankment early 70s and getting legged up mani rd

Everton in the semi final at burnden mid 7os saw alot scousers get turned over that night saw one get stabbed with a screw driver out side the train station

Burnley on a tues night at ours late 7os

Got a good kicking some of them were jumping on buses to get away

 

 

 

Rome wasn't built in a day, but I think Horwich was.

 

Horwich is fucking freezing. Spider emigrated to Bolton for the day and Andy Dee was wearing a onesie when i turned up at his,i kid ye not !

And it's full of Great Lever and Morris Green ex-pats,Andy will confirm this ITK fact

Don't remember too much from Burnden - other than Sheff Utd mid 80s during the last match of the season (we won 3-1). Keith Edwards might have broke his leg that day. They were in the Burnden seats behind the Paddock and came over from what I remember and scattered a lot of the Bolton fans who took shelter in the Lever End until it all died down. Think there was about 9,000 on that day and they must have had 6,000 with them.

There is a Burnley name, Andrew Porter I think, that wrote a book and there is a whole chapter on us with a very insight report on how we took Burnley in 83 and then gave em grief at Burnden in the same year. I wasnt in attendance that day but he says as a youth he was transfixed on how we leathered them all over their home town, he says they turned the tables in 87 in the home league and cup game and then when they came to Bolton, I know this is shit cause I was at all 3 games and took my current wifey for her first "Bolton" experiences as Burnley was nearby. My memory is not what it was but I think 87 home was the year of the Bradford Arms seige?

Was there any one with JC when we went to Burnely must have been in the mid late 80s got there early doors in the bar on the precinct upstairs then later on marched into that pub on the corner only about 20-25 Bolton and turned it over big time even I was wincing with the severity of the attack, would have been a long sentence if that happened today.

There is a Burnley name, Andrew Porter I think, that wrote a book and there is a whole chapter on us with a very insight report on how we took Burnley in 83 and then gave em grief at Burnden in the same year. I wasnt in attendance that day but he says as a youth he was transfixed on how we leathered them all over their home town, he says they turned the tables in 87 in the home league and cup game and then when they came to Bolton, I know this is shit cause I was at all 3 games and took my current wifey for her first "Bolton" experiences as Burnley was nearby. My memory is not what it was but I think 87 home was the year of the Bradford Arms seige?

 

Porter did write a book entitled Suicide Squad.

He's currently serving 5yrs for some naughtiness between Burnley and Blackburn.

Was there any one with JC when we went to Burnely must have been in the mid late 80s got there early doors in the bar on the precinct upstairs then later on marched into that pub on the corner only about 20-25 Bolton and turned it over big time even I was wincing with the severity of the attack, would have been a long sentence if that happened today.

 

i wasn't with your lot that mounts,but was with BW,JW,AW etc. After the above mentioned incident happened,Burnley were furious and came further into town,to a bar called Ku's where we were drinking. they put a couple of windows through before we piled out and leathered them all over their dumpy town centre. i'm sure it was the same day Colley from Stoneclough took on their end on his own and got carted out by about 10 coppers,he was going ballistic at the filth as he led away to huge cheers past the Wanderers fans in the Longside

There is a Burnley name, Andrew Porter I think, that wrote a book and there is a whole chapter on us with a very insight report on how we took Burnley in 83 and then gave em grief at Burnden in the same year. I wasnt in attendance that day but he says as a youth he was transfixed on how we leathered them all over their home town, he says they turned the tables in 87 in the home league and cup game and then when they came to Bolton, I know this is shit cause I was at all 3 games and took my current wifey for her first "Bolton" experiences as Burnley was nearby. My memory is not what it was but I think 87 home was the year of the Bradford Arms seige?

 

Andrew Porter is a total nobody and mocked by his own lot. The proper Burnley lads who i know very well told me the full story of the 87 cup match. they knew 200 bolton lads had already been put in thre ground at 12-00, 3 bastard hours before kick-off,and thought it was easy pickings to have a go at smaller groups etc,which they did leading up kick off.

we invaded the pitch after the game and only ran when the police charged us,not the Burnly knobs. They ended up attacking innocent fans in the main stand. But they claim that as a huge result. Youtube shows us invading the pitch,yet burnley only appear on the clip when the old bill have already scarpered us.

the return match on easter monday 88 - they'd been spouting in the lancashire telegraph that they were coming to bolton 400/500 handed. yet only 40 turned and hid in the Bradford Arms until we sussed them and wrecked the place. according to a couple of burnley mates,they saw our mob of hundreds charging down lower bridgeman st and piled back inside,barricading the place and asking the landlord to ring the police. even more bizarrely,in another book,it may be football hooligans part 11,they say they stood their ground and held back all 400 of us. Aye,whatever,you stupid inbred pricks.

they even say after the match they ran us everywhere...........i know they had a small mob of 40 or so on their toes,but when the main mob of Bolton emerged they soon scarpered back to their coaches and white stone houses worth thirty bob. The real Burnley lads know the score,and know before the advent of CCTV,section 60's,hefty sentences,dawn raids etc,they like every Lancashire club,could not touch our beloved Bolton Wanderers

 

rant over

Edited December 5, 201213 yr by miamiwhite

Well put didnt we played them the following sat after the cup game

A good 100 of us marched through there town centre

And they was know where to b seen

Top post!!!

Well put didnt we played them the following sat after the cup game

A good 100 of us marched through there town centre

And they was know where to b seen

 

we did pal. we met IIRC in Ramsbottom in the Stubbins pub and made our way in cars and taxis. they knew we were coming and kept out of sight. pretty sure we made it to the turnstiles at their end but the police stopped us getting in.

 

how many teams have tried to get in our end ?

 

Burnley - no

blackpool - no

wigan - no

preston - no

the list is endless yet they all claim to have done us bigtime and turn us over regularly.

 

Not once with even numbers or slightly in their favour have any team from Lancashire turned over the Wanderers. We have always been in their end in the 70's,80's and even 90's on some occasions. They daren't venture into ours

Edited December 5, 201213 yr by miamiwhite

I remember one game in the 80s a cup game against arsenal at ours

A few if them came in the burnden paddock

And lasted a few seconds one lad hit one with a milk crate

After the game they came running down side if of the lever end and it kicked of big time on the grass banking

And it carried on all the way back to the train station

Spurs tried it the same season and got legged across the

Motorway at the back of the paddock

I remembet a black lad side of the lever end

Geting a good kicking and running for his life minus his black leather jacket

Blackburn away, on our return to the prem,95/96 season(shearer got a hat-trick i think )

 

I'd gone up to Ewood via a contact a few weeks before the game and purchased 52 tickets for their end.

 

We went up early on the train with huge numbers of Whites,trouble for some reason seemed to follow us all day long.

 

Once inside Ewood,we were adjacent to the away end,(i think we had half the upper and lower stands),they were giving it the usual ''oh wanky wanky''.......then when it quietened down,once of our group rose from his seat and started the old classic.........................''Bolton boys we are here,,,,whooahh,Bolton boys we are here whooahh''

The 50 of us were straight on our feet,half admittedly expecting a major backlash,but t our amazement and pleasant amusement the majority of their end rose to their feet and joined in the chant. Bolton were all over their end. I WAS AS PROUD AS FUCK TO BE A BOLTON FAN IN THEIR END THAT DAY. The clowns singing ''oh wanky wanky'' soon disappeared

 

we stayed in Blackburn all night,until we were herded onto the last train home.

 

I can honestly say,hand on heart,that no team has ever taken such liberties in Bolton,EVER

Edited December 5, 201213 yr by miamiwhite