DomRepWanderer Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Commentaters on Tower said at half time that Dougie could take him off without replacing him, and it would have no impact on the team, is he really that shit, or is Dougie deploying him in a false position ? to me he is shit scared of getting the ball, when he does its like wtf do I do now, I dunno, a good player turned bad by tactics, or a bad player who got lucky for a season ( Swansea). Quote
kent_white Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 My mate is a Swansea fan and he was gutted when he came to us. Probably the main difference is if you're playing in a well organised team where each player is placed according to his strengths then you can look very good indeed without being a world beater. I'd argue that the same was true for a lot of players in Big Sam's teams. Quote
jules_darby Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 He's shite and has been since he joinedExcept for when he's been decent as he was for the second half of 2012-2013 season Quote
gonzo Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 He's the least of our worries. Â Kent has got it right up above. Quote
DomRepWanderer Posted August 13, 2014 Author Posted August 13, 2014 He's the least of our worries. Â Kent has got it right up above. Id go with mismanaged too Quote
tyldesley_white Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Id go with mismanaged too why not go with xxxxxx, whats the point, because if its not Pratley its someone else each and every week Quote
The Wanderer Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Pratley made the best run of the game last night, Â midway in second half i think, whoever had the ball never looked up to see it despite having all the time in the world. Basic mistakes that have been costing us for two seasons. Quote
Carlos Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Commentaters on Tower Tower isn't even the best radio station in Bolton. I'd rather watch scores on Teletext. Â If they can't comment on a game objectively, the club should fuck them off. Two bob cunts. Quote
Spider Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I said last night that I couldn't work out if he's just shit scared of getting involved or he's being asked to do a job I cannot fathom. Â Like most of the team, he's good enough but short on confidence. Â As bollocks as we were last night, 24 hours later I'm hoping a victory from the jaws of defeat might just spur them into a performance on Saturday. Â I've seen more good games from Pratley than bad ones so he is up to the task. Â Same goes for most of the others. Which means the manager needs to up his game too. Â He needs longer, they all do, but not much longer. Quote
paulhanley Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 I've lost a lot of faith in Pratley. He wasn't good enough in the Prem - but I thought he would shine out in the Championship and it just hasn't happened often enough. There've been some good games and some good goals. Just not enough to justify what were reported as £17K a week wages when he originally signed. Quote
Casino Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Pratley made the best run of the game last night,  midway in second half i think, whoever had the ball never looked up to see it despite having all the time in the world. Basic mistakes that have been costing us for two seasons.   trotter made the best run of the night  played a one two and shouldve broke the net  i still read that he never goes forward  i think too many watch the match on tower Quote
The Wanderer Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 trotter made the best run of the night  played a one two and shouldve broke the net  i still read that he never goes forward  i think too many watch the match on tower That is true to be fair. Should have scored, easily. Quote
Ratwhite Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 Dogs are a sniffing, he's the new Nicky hunt........... Quote
jagermoot Posted August 13, 2014 Posted August 13, 2014 My mate is a Swansea fan and he was gutted when he came to us. Probably the main difference is if you're playing in a well organised team where each player is placed according to his strengths then you can look very good indeed without being a world beater. I'd argue that the same was true for a lot of players in Big Sam's teams. I agree, our disorganized team and set up will never bring the best out of players. We need to buy players that are developed as we sure as shit ain't helping anyone get any better or develop their potential. Quote
Arrested development Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 Commentaters on Tower said at half time that Dougie could take him off without replacing him, and it would have no impact on the team, is he really that shit, or is Dougie deploying him in a false position ? to me he is shit scared of getting the ball, when he does its like wtf do I do now, I dunno, a good player turned bad by tactics, or a bad player who got lucky for a season ( Swansea). He certainly not being deployed in a false position. He's a midfielder playing in midfield. I'm firmly in the pratley isn't good enough camp. He hasn't been scapegoated or targeted more than anyone else. He just contributes very little. Â Rarely scores, doesn't tackle. Technically not very good so only really passes to the nearest player as he isn't good enough to do anything else. All he does most of the game is run around a lot. That's it. His control and touch are poor. Â His only seemingly redeemable quality prior to coming to Bolton was an ability to arrive late in the box and get goals from midfield. If he's not getting goals then there's no point in him being in the team because we've got better midfielders in our squad. Quote
BL3 white Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 Watching teletext is better than tower. Quote
BoltonPro15 Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 It was a lot easier when it was all just Zat Knights fault.  Now I find I need to try and find somebody to single out rather than just Knight. Quote
jules_darby Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 He's the least of our worries.  Kent has got it right up above. He certainly is  I'd be more worried about Ream - the Player of the Season Defender who is clueless positionally and cannot tackle; Medo - the most over-rated player in BWFC history who cannot pass 15 yards and is happy to watch players (and the game) drift by him; then there's our attack who are about as penetrative as a micro-penis and threatening as my slippers  And that's before we go anywhere near the clueless Management  Pratley.....he's awreet Quote
whiteboy Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 Prately is nothing but a big lump who grafts and scores the occasional goal. He's crap and Watford was the end of my patience with him. Â Another Coyle masterstroke Quote
onlyoneawalker Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 Prats has got a great attitude for me, I think he wants to do well for the club he's a box to box midfielder who likes to run on to balls and have the ball in front of him if we're asking him to pick the ball up off the centre halves he's been sold a pup - he'd grow and grow if he was playing in a side brimming with confidence and playing to his strengths - he's no world beater but as has been said and I'd be keeping him in the squad - not sure DF overly rates him but see's him as useful if needed. Quote
Casino Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 what is clear from this thread is that you can only appreciate pratley if you take a macro view Quote
boltonian67 Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 Pratley is fucking shite, he was in the store were I work a few weeks back, he tried to pass his wife his wallet from 6 inches away but missed her hand. Quote
Casino Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 but  he was good for 17 minutes in march 2013 Quote
Casino Posted August 14, 2014 Posted August 14, 2014 i don't mind pratley fwiw  i do remember us playing swanseas reserves in the cup  i think we beat them?  always remember they had somebody id always thought of as a stump up front  well, his control was brilliant  i could only put that down to the time their coaches set aside for ball skills etc  like i say, we won, so maybe its not an issue, it was just an eye opener to see how they had developed this fella   just googled him - luke moore Quote
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