It's politics and power as always - and religion is the convenient vehicle.

There are lots of versions of the bible. Each one a different interpretation. There are parts of the old testament about killing non-believers I think. And then the real crux is whether individuals believe the new testament supercedes it or not. It isn't really a difference between two religions. If Christians had been living in the desert in the third world for several generations then no doubt they'd be riding planes into buildings with exactly the same religious excuses.

Yes I know

Yeah, but it's not so it's a moot point.

lee rigbys killer that's a one off nutjob scenario,this is different the killer was part of a terror cell which attacks those from the west,if you think this lot wont attack over here then your very naive

lee rigbys killer that's a one off nutjob scenario,this is different the killer was part of a terror cell which attacks those from the west,if you think this lot wont attack over here then your very naive

 

So this Tunisian terror cell are on their way over here then?

So this Tunisian terror cell are on their way over here then?

I'm talking about Isis which they are apart of.

I'm talking about Isis which they are apart of.

 

They've already set up an HQ in Swinton.

I'm talking about Isis which they are apart of.

 

I've got no idea how to reply to that other than say initially you seem to have a misunderstand of the word "cell".

I've got no idea how to reply to that other than say initially you seem to have a misunderstand of the word "cell".

ok as its forum on opinions ours differ so we will leave on the subject

I deal in facts, not opinion.

lee rigbys killer that's a one off nutjob scenario,this is different the killer was part of a terror cell which attacks those from the west,if you think this lot wont attack over here then your very naive

Didn't Lee Rigby's killers link themselves with the teachings of Al Quaeda or some other terrorist group?

 

Outside of the middle east Isis etc rely on these lone nutters to spread fear and hatred.

 

THe fact that since 7/7 we've seen the attack on LR as a terrorist act on our shores shows that the police and intelligence are doing a damn fine job and the fear of these nutters is greater than their threat to folk in Dog Shit Valley.

Didn't Lee Rigby's killers link themselves with the teachings of Al Quaeda or some other terrorist group?

 

Outside of the middle east Isis etc rely on these lone nutters to spread fear and hatred.

 

THe fact that since 7/7 we've seen the attack on LR as a terrorist act on our shores shows that the police and intelligence are doing a damn fine job and the fear of these nutters is greater than their threat to folk in Dog Shit Valley.

 

yes. they were due to go to an alqueda training camp in fact

Didn't Lee Rigby's killers link themselves with the teachings of Al Quaeda or some other terrorist group?

 

Outside of the middle east Isis etc rely on these lone nutters to spread fear and hatred.

 

THe fact that since 7/7 we've seen the attack on LR as a terrorist act on our shores shows that the police and intelligence are doing a damn fine job and the fear of these nutters is greater than their threat to folk in Dog Shit Valley.

no doubt the police are doing an excellent job,however its in the news every week about a group or individual on terror charges or a plan foiled,sooner or later we will see these loons on our streets

no doubt the police are doing an excellent job,however its in the news every week about a group or individual on terror charges or a plan foiled,sooner or later we will see these loons on our streets

What do you consider to be the best way to deal with the situation we find ourselves in?

no doubt the police are doing an excellent job,however its in the news every week about a group or individual on terror charges or a plan foiled,sooner or later we will see these loons on our streets

But these loons have been coming to our streets for the 10yrs since the 7/7 bombings.

 

Don't get me wrong the threat is very very real but you're far more likely to be killed by a smack rat after a few quid for their next fix than a terrorist.

But these loons have been coming to our streets for the 10yrs since the 7/7 bombings.

 

Don't get me wrong the threat is very very real but you're far more likely to be killed by a smack rat after a few quid for their next fix than a terrorist.

you know radcliffe well then????

 

Don't get me wrong the threat is very very real but you're far more likely to be killed by a smack rat after a few quid for their next fix than a terrorist.

That's dependent on where you live and where you travel to.

That's dependent on where you live and where you travel to.

 

obvs. franks still right if were talking about living in the uk though

I keep hearing ISIS don't speak for Islam but each one of their mentalist ideas come straight from their holy book, that's a cherry topped fact.

The whole religion needs reformation as Christianity had to do . They've still got nutters we know but their branch of voodoo has removed some of the Stone Age nonsense from its teachings (only some mind).

Till that happens and the juxtaposition with the free world is made smaller, nothing will change.

Why does their religion need a reform when 99% of those that follow islam in this country live a normal and peaceful life?

Why does their religion need a reform when 99% of those that follow islam in this country live a normal and peaceful life?

Globally you're way off the mark there

Globally you're way off the mark there

Globally? As in the Middle East? They've all been at each other since time began. Hardly a place to judge them on.

 

I'd say the vast majority of the worlds Muslim population are just like everybody else. Some good,some bad.

I'd say the vast majority of the worlds Muslim population are just like everybody else. Some good,some bad.

I agree, sadly the bad ones are really, really bad

Globally? As in the Middle East? They've all been at each other since time began. Hardly a place to judge them on.

 

I'd say the vast majority of the worlds Muslim population are just like everybody else. Some good,some bad.

Aye, it's a progressive religion which embraces emancipation and freedom of thought. And in this country is say the same not just globally.

And no, I've seen shit in other countries away from the Middle East which tells me different to your view.

Actually, get yourself to areas of Yorkshire even

Aye, it's a progressive religion which embraces emancipation and freedom of thought. And in this country is say the same not just globally.

And no, I've seen shit in other countries away from the Middle East which tells me different to your view.

Actually, get yourself to areas of Yorkshire even

Are there ISIS militants roaming the streets of Bradford carrying AK47's ??

 

A culture and religion you may not like or agree with,yes.

 

A danger to national security? Nah

Are there ISIS militants roaming the streets of Bradford carrying AK47's ??

 

A culture and religion you may not like or agree with,yes.

 

A danger to national security? Nah

You picked up on my belief they need to reform their Stone Age religion and then turned it glibly into folk walking the streets with guns. I'm probably wasting my time then as are a number of others, many of whom are Muslims, if you think there's no reason to take their culture out of the dark ages.